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Waived: Ilya Samsonov - Recalled by the Leafs 1/10/24

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fahad203 said:
Every goalie in this league not named Ron Hextall and Billy Smith are really nice guys. Unfortunately, this is part of the game and business. He's not getting shafted, he's still making $3.5 million.

He has been given every opportunity to run with that role, just didn't. That's life

He can still turn his career around, not all is lost.

Weird, two of our starters from 2 years ago are in AHL now or on waivers. Campbell and now Samsonov.
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It is indeed part of the business, I’m for the move. But you can also feel for a person who is really struggling
 
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PromisedLand said:
I remember when I was in school I didn't have money to even eat and had to skip meals while working full time and going to school full time.

"lucky sperm" is a real thing, being born and raised in "privilege" they don't understand how hard life can be for middle/lower-middle class people.

Heck I went on to do higher education, got a decent job and I still find it hard to do groceries when inflation. There are other problems that many are running into today like rent, medical bills, debt payments, childcare, etc...

Playing in NHL is a privilege not a right. 8 billion people on the planet how many get to live out their dreams and make millions?

So yea... unless someone has seriously health issue (mental or physical) or family issues I don't really feel much for "hockey players". I sympathize with their situation but I mean common.... when compared to real life scenarios for most for the people on the planet its just peanuts man.
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Estimated Career Earnings
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: $5,690,081 to this date. Adding 2 million on top of that by end of this year

Even if he took half of that after agent fee, taxes, he should be doing well.

Not to mention he's not done. He'll still get contracts, he'll still play high level. Maybe not as a starter. Possibly a starter in KHL or AHL. He'll still have good income coming in
 
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PromisedLand said:
I remember when I was in school I didn't have money to even eat and had to skip meals while working full time and going to school full time.

"lucky sperm" is a real thing, being born and raised in "privilege" they don't understand how hard life can be for middle/lower-middle class people.

Heck I went on to do higher education, got a decent job and I still find it hard to do groceries when inflation. There are other problems that many are running into today like rent, medical bills, debt payments, childcare, etc...

Playing in NHL is a privilege not a right. 8 billion people on the planet how many get to live out their dreams and make millions?

So yea... unless someone has seriously health issue (mental or physical) or family issues I don't really feel much for "hockey players". I sympathize with their situation but I mean common.... when compared to real life scenarios for most for the people on the planet its just peanuts man.
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Being born in Canada makes you "lucky sperm"...

It is all relative.

Playing in the NHL is something he worked very hard to do... I think it'd be very disappointing and not great mentally to have something you worked so hard for ending.
 
GM's aren't even looking at their phones today. He'll clear waivers and get sent down.
I'm not even looking at my phone.
 
I feel for Sammy as a person, but this is clearly the right move for the Leafs. Also maybe the right move for Sammy - he was in a death spiral of bad play leading to anxiety leading to even worse play, maybe he can find his game again out of the spotlight on the Marlies.

This is probably earlier than the Leafs would like for giving Hildeby a taste of the NHL. Hopefully he does decently, but if he struggles, really hope the fans and media are understanding. He’s a young goalie with upside, but still needs a lot more development to hit his potential, what we’ll be seeing is far from a finished product. Huge goalies (6’6”+) are maybe the latest bloomers of any archetype, for example Markstrom didn’t really figure things out at the NHL level until he was ~26 years old, Ben Bishop ~29 years old, and Hildeby is just 22. Jake Oettinger is a very “early bloomer” for a 6’6”+ goalie, and I believe he played his first NHL game at ~21-22.
 
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Mess said:
Dubas leaves poison pill to the Leafs with Samsonov and Murray in net.

Thanks for nothing !!!
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When you go to free agency to solve the goaltending it's always risky. Dubas a year ago took two rolls of the dice with Murray/Sammy (and passed on Campbell I'll give him credit). Murray pulled up lame, Sammy gave us enough for that elusive playoff win but clearly not much more.

Leafs need to be patient and show faith internally to fix this so either Brick Woll or HIldebeast (or both). Hopefully Woll comes back and we roll Woll/Jones this year, Woll/HIldy next year.

Don't trade for a goalie. Don't sign a goalie. One of the two will emerge.
 
It had to be done, Sammy needs a mental reset. They gave him chances, but this cannot be sustained at the NHL level.
 
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