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Prospect Info: Igor Shestyorkin Part I

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shestys game has become more controlled and in line with the current standards for goaltending. he looks more technically sound now and less "free styling".

2 years ago however, when i began to follow him, he was a train wreck as far as his technical game. his athletic ability and cat like quickness allowed him to make acrobatic saves and stone shooters from in close. he made amazing stops he had no business making some time flopping and while laying on the ice.

sound familiar ?

in fact, he was good because he played a unique style that shooters couldnt figure out. he was frequently out of position and still made the stop.

please do some homework if need be but this is in fact, all true.

he has improved and matured in his craft for sure, and today looks less out of control. but a few years ago, he played a style most similar to the dominator and that has stayed with me.
 
offdacrossbar said:
shestys game has become more controlled and in line with the current standards for goaltending. he looks more technically sound now and less "free styling".

2 years ago however, when i began to follow him, he was a train wreck as far as his technical game. his athletic ability and cat like quickness allowed him to make acrobatic saves and stone shooters from in close. he made amazing stops he had no business making some time flopping and while laying on the ice.

sound familiar ?

in fact, he was good because he played a unique style that shooters couldnt figure out. he was frequently out of position and still made the stop.

please do some homework if need be but this is in fact, all true.

he has improved and matured in his craft for sure, and today looks less out of control. but a few years ago, he played a style most similar to the dominator and that has stayed with me.
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He never, ever played so unorthodox as to be remotely close to Hasek in that regard. He was raw a couple of years ago. Not unorthodox. The Hasek comparison is awful, man.
 
https://youtu.be/UsbuGBuq2pc

http://www.propuckprospects.com/2014/04/igor-shesterkin.html

Player Overview

Future Considerations is the authority when it comes to a profile on this young Russian goalie. Said to be a “Hasek-like” ‘tender, Shesterkin is technically weak, but plays an unorthodox, reactionary style that gives him a chance on nearly every shot.

while he may not be domink hasek, references to and comparisons in his style have been made by others besides me.

feel free to disagree. were all entitled to our opinion.

as usual jon, yours is always right and other opinions are always wrong. and that is, indeed, awful man.
 
offdacrossbar said:
https://youtu.be/UsbuGBuq2pc

http://www.propuckprospects.com/2014/04/igor-shesterkin.html

Player Overview

Future Considerations is the authority when it comes to a profile on this young Russian goalie. Said to be a “Hasek-like†‘tender, Shesterkin is technically weak, but plays an unorthodox, reactionary style that gives himself a chance on nearly every shot.

while he may not be domink hasek, references to and comparisons in his style have been made by others besides me.

feel free to disagree. were all entitled to our opinion.

as usual jon, yours is always right and other opinions are always wrong. and that is, indeed, awful man.
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And they were wrong when they wrote it. Or simply never remembered Hasek. I watched Dom's entire career, practically. I do not see him him Shesty at all. Not one bit.

Not young Hasek or old Hasek. Their stances are different. Shesty is more of an ultra athletic butterfly goalie who used to get himself out of position (the U18s were a key showcase to this). He's exponentially better at controlling his movements, now, so you don't see him flailing. He's much more controlled today and plays almost exactly like Quick. It's almost uncanny.

It's a lazy comparison for a guy who was a bit raw at the time. Hasek was so unorthodox, but it was controlled. When Shesty was all over the place, it was more for pure recovery's sake. I've seen it before with other players as well.
 
no one even remotely looks like hasek. Not then and certainly not now. You wouldn't get thru high midget A if you played that style in this day and age

I've said Quick for 2 years now and he looks more and more like him every time I see him.
 
There are always trends.

Yesterday's thing between the pipe was to play as deep as possible. As soon as you go out of the net, you expose yourself to like a bouncing puck ending up on the wrong stick by the post. If you have the back against the pipe, you always give yourself a chance. Before that we had the goalies taking away the ice. Before that the butterfly. And so forth.

Today the goalie geeks are into one thing and one thing only -- the is the foot work. They are turning these guys' foot work into something that would put every step dancer out there into shame. Seriously though, they are taking the foot work to a whole other level. And also including work with getting the upper body to be upright into it (any time you tilt your upper body forward you cover less net, at the same time, try jumping up and down to the floor and making all kind of moves while keeping your upper body completely upright, it's extremely hard). A ton of balance work. It's 1000s of repetitions. Small movements of the feets. Bam bam bam. Up down left right up down left left left down up left right. And so forth. They are also cutting a lot of goo saving techniques, not because they are bad. But because they involve too much movement. They want those smaller moves were the goalie stay composed and upright.

This is of course influenced by Price.

And I definitely think Shesty is more Price than say Quick or Hank. He is into those small moves, upright upper body. These things are so professional right now, if Shesty isn't in a camp in NA he is in a Camp in Europe with people having been in a camp in NA.

I've seen Shesty twice he last while. Love what I am seeing. Somewhat still a little important to remember that his team is very very good.
 
Kovalev27 said:
no one even remotely looks like hasek. Not then and certainly not now. You wouldn't get thru high midget A if you played that style in this day and age

I've said Quick for 2 years now and he looks more and more like him every time I see him.
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He's so much more aggressive than Hasek, too. He is ultra aggressive just like Quick.

His butterfly game has become so much more refined than it was a year or two ago. His improvement is just awesome. It's nice to see his athleticism hasn't been gimped as he's refined his skill set, too. I always worry about that. As he's refined his stance and lateral movement, he's still maintained his insane quickness.

I just fully admit that I never saw him improving his positioning to this level. That's massive. It's the difference to him being a top 50 prospect in the league or a big question mark.
 
I do t really see Price, either, Ola. Price is a HUGE bodied goalie. 6'3" 230 or something like that. He's also very athletic. Shesty is a lot smaller but just hyper athletic.
 
Infinitum Vitae said:
The Russian Richter? :naughty:
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If we want to compare him to our old goalies, that's the most appropriate for sure. I love how aggressive Shesty is. He has to be at his size. His athleticism is just off the charts good. If he can get his mental and positioning game on the same page, he can be a hell of a player. The good thing is it looks like he's almost there this year. Which is astounding in and of itself.
 
Hunter Gathers said:
If we want to compare him to our old goalies, that's the most appropriate for sure. I love how aggressive Shesty is. He has to be at his size. His athleticism is just off the charts good. If he can get his mental and positioning game on the same page, he can be a hell of a player. The good thing is it looks like he's almost there this year. Which is astounding in and of itself.
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Do you think he'll be Lundqvist replacement?
 
Hunter Gathers said:
I do t really see Price, either, Ola. Price is a HUGE bodied goalie. 6'3" 230 or something like that. He's also very athletic. Shesty is a lot smaller but just hyper athletic.
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Yeah, but in terms of fundamental style, think more Holtby and Price than Quick or Hank. He is physically gifted like Quick, but his fundamental style differs.
 
http://www.yardbarker.com/mobile/content/article/s1_9979_16745626

good shesty read here

obviously, this site isnt to the level that jon is in terms of talent evaluation but a pretty well reasoned detailed take on the kid, his style, his upside and his overall future projection.

call me crazy, but i prefer that over stuff like

no way. you have no idea what you're talking about
you're crazy
you're clueless
im always right
and, im always right.

again, no where near the professional scouting talent of jon.

but a good read none the less.

which ever it is, im pretty happy to have this kid in the system. he looks legit.

did i mention he's russian ?

:laugh:
 
Igor's playing. Koskinen isn't even the back up today.

Their next games after this are the Far East trip. Maybe thats when Koskinen starts playing again. Hopefully he's now just a back up though.

This game should be named the Buchnevich derby. :laugh:


Shestyorkin gave up a goal.

3-1 SKA.

Shestyorkin did not play that goal well. He lost track of where he was and went down to stop a shot when the player with the puck wasn't even going to shoot. The Severstal player was trying to cycle the puck behind the net with pressure from a defenseman, but Shestyorkin read the play so poorly that he left an empty net and the Severstal player played it in front to a guy who tapped it in.


Not a good time to go into a slump with Koskinen returning from his injury.

Edit: The SKA twitter account is claiming he lost his footing. I hope thats the case because it was bad, otherwise.
 
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Gave up another goal.

The camera man lost track of the puck so its hard to tell whether it was a bad goal, but I didn't think the goal was his fault.

Edit: Wasn't his fault. Made a nice save, and then the puck pin balled around in front of a bunch of players in the front of the net, looked like it either hit the skate of a Severstal player and went in or dropped to one and tapped it in.
 
offdacrossbar said:
http://www.yardbarker.com/mobile/content/article/s1_9979_16745626

good shesty read here

obviously, this site isnt to the level that jon is in terms of talent evaluation but a pretty well reasoned detailed take on the kid, his style, his upside and his overall future projection.

call me crazy, but i prefer that over stuff like

no way. you have no idea what you're talking about
you're crazy
you're clueless
im always right
and, im always right.

again, no where near the professional scouting talent of jon.

but a good read none the less.

which ever it is, im pretty happy to have this kid in the system. he looks legit.

did i mention he's russian ?

:laugh:
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Who gives a **** about some 2014 report? We are almost in 2017. The kids game has evolved massively in that span. As stated, he was previously very raw and had positioning problems. He's almost completely corrected these issues and is no longer flailing around out of position.

What game have you seen of his in 2016 that is remotely Hasek-like? I've seen highlight packages from this season as well as a couple of games. I've not once seen him play like his U18 self. He's much mor aggressive, much more in control, and much better overall.

You're right. A 2014 report is not up to my standards. It's so out of date that it shouldn't be up to your standards either, but perhaps yours are lower than mine. Also, the guy who wrote that? Never seen the kid play. What a shock. This is how awful, lazy comparisons spread. One person says it and fourteen folks who can't verify or deny repeat it without hesitation.
 
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I say that and then he gives up a goal. Looked like a bad goal to me, but I missed the replay. Slap shot from pretty far out. Not sure if he was screened.
 
23/26 saves. Two bad goals. Other goal he couldn't do much about. Not a good match, but he had a lot of hard saves to make. SKA was terrible defensively. Severstal outplayed SKA. It really could've been like 5 or 6 goals allowed had he not been stopping the puck.
 
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