If you were trading one player on this team, who would it be?

[cannucky]

Not this year though.

Wouldn't be my choice, well if they hadn't signed him to an extension it might be, but you really can't treat players that way when they accept less to play than they'd have received on the open market.

Nylander trade really doesn't help because to get similar quality in return it's only going to be one player back.

If you move a double digit you can get back two good players.

Except nobody in the double digits is tradable which is why I responded to a posters question not the OP question , Yes to the OP question in an alternate reality of possibility I would trade Tavares but its not happening and his NMC has no bearing on the why , it's because nobody is dumb enough to pay him what we do for what he is today we payed 11 for what he was in hopes we would win before he became what he is and it just didn't work out . As for nobody treating players like that well the phrase Sign and Trade is a phrase because it is a common business practice in the league , Reilly is more attractive to a potential suiter today than he was before the extension because of the certainty provided by the extension . Adam Larrson or Jamie Olesiak at 4 and 4.6 per over 4 and 5 years fits our cap model much better than yet another player signed well beyond his prime years for almost twice the price . Reilly's extension is another 8 year pay him for what he was not what he is contract by this management .

 

[cannucky]

For some reason this management group just can't figure out the whole concept of paying a player for what he is , they either overpay for what he might become someday or overpay him for what he was .

 

[cannucky]

I would want to give Leafs management a smack if they even hinted to Tavares they wanted him to accept a trade.

Like, remember what went down with Sundin? Cliff Fletcher throwing him to the media to try and change his mind?

Yuck. Leafs need cap space and Marner is unfortunately the guy that will get them that.

Tavares.....well if he gets really bad he goes to "Robidas Island" basically.

Your kidding right ? you want to keep the guy who is physically deteriorating before your eyes over the young guy in his prime having a slow period in his career ? Which one still hustles his butt off every shift and plays every situation ? Who gives a rats backside about Fletcher and Sundin ? this is the 21-22 season lets try to take our Focusin and deal with the now eh .

 

[Al14]

Marner will never live up to that contract, so if there was a taker out there, I'd trade him there immediately. We could use the cap space trading him would provide !!!

 

[Leafshater67]

Who is the most realistic Toronto can trade?

Marner. Id like to see Muzzin and Tavares go and get almost 17 million off the books for two aging players with big contracts. I thini Marner can bounce back, he’s young and overpaid but his contract is short term.

 

[Al14]

Your kidding right ? you want to keep the guy who is physically deteriorating before your eyes over the young guy in his prime having a slow period in his career ? Which one still hustles his butt off every shift and plays every situation ? Who gives a rats backside about Fletcher and Sundin ? this is the 21-22 season lets try to take our Focusin and deal with the now eh .

Marner can hustle all he wants !!! It'll take far more than hustle for him to live up to that albatross contract. He'd need to score at least 30 goals and 50 assists every year to even come close to earning his paycheque !!! His cutesy plays don't work in the NHL. JMHO

 

[Tak7]

But not the biggest return, which is cap space. Marner is the guy that gets you that. And I think he is tradable (is that a word?) at the end of the season and after his signing bonus is paid. Then he is essentially an $8m player for 3 years to a team that doesn't spend to the cap, and that gets that team to the floor.

That's my guess.

Something has to give even though I still believe in Mitch. I thought it would be Nylander but I think I was wrong.

Nylander gets you more in a return than Marner, purely because of the AAV.

Not many teams have a $11M in cap space, and those that do probably don't have the sort of ready-now pieces that the Leafs would want in a trade.

Nylander at $6.9M makes that much easier to do. William also doesn't have the "disappearing act" perception that Marner currently has in the playoffs.

 

[Blowfish]

Marner. Id like to see Muzzin and Tavares go and get almost 17 million off the books for two aging players with big contracts. I thini Marner can bounce back, he’s young and overpaid but his contract is short term.

IMO the only realistic option for a trade (unless the leafs retain significant salary) is Matthews. Nylander, but that contract is good and he's playing very well.

Dubas is so in over his head it's crazy...

 

[ULF_55]

Not sure what you mean by 'not this year', but his NMC is active now as per capfriendly.

Morgan Rielly Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps



I agree that it's in poor taste to flip a guy immediately after extending him though.

Rielly wouldn't be the guy I'd look to move as he has been a good soldier and can reasonably be expected to perform at a 7.5 million dollar level, or at least close to it.

No, it will kick in with the new contract. Limitation of CapFriendly display.

 

[ULF_55]

lets look at that in home appliances category, do you sell your big screen tv first (likely at a huge loss) or a toaster or a microwave which are easy to replace when you get back on your feet?

you never sell your best assets in any situation unless its a last resort, as they are the hardest to replace, and often you never can.

Do you sell your big screen TV or your Stove/Fridge/Washer/Dryer ...

 

[jaric1862]

Whoever they trade they need to bring in another defenceman. I think Kerfoot, Dermott, Mikheyev and Engvall are all worthy candidates.

 

[Tak7]

No, it will kick in with the new contract. Limitation of CapFriendly display.

Incorrect - LeBrun confirmed that Mo's NMC kicks in immediately, despite the contract not starting until July 1.

EDIT:

 

[Tak7]

IMO the only realistic option for a trade (unless the leafs retain significant salary) is Matthews. Nylander, but that contract is good and he's playing very well.

Dubas is so in over his head it's crazy...

Which makes it a very realistic option for a trade - that's exactly the sort of piece teams would be willing to give up a huge piece or 2 for.

 

[ULF_55]

Incorrect - LeBrun confirmed that Mo's NMC kicks in immediately, despite the contract not starting until July 1.

EDIT:

Well, thank you for that.

Love to see how they can alter an existing contract's terms?
If you can change terms of an existing contract, I'd say that opens the door to other changes.

Very interesting.

 

[diceman934]

Except nobody in the double digits is tradable which is why I responded to a posters question not the OP question , Yes to the OP question in an alternate reality of possibility I would trade Tavares but its not happening and his NMC has no bearing on the why , it's because nobody is dumb enough to pay him what we do for what he is today we payed 11 for what he was in hopes we would win before he became what he is and it just didn't work out . As for nobody treating players like that well the phrase Sign and Trade is a phrase because it is a common business practice in the league , Reilly is more attractive to a potential suiter today than he was before the extension because of the certainty provided by the extension . Adam Larrson or Jamie Olesiak at 4 and 4.6 per over 4 and 5 years fits our cap model much better than yet another player signed well beyond his prime years for almost twice the price . Reilly's extension is another 8 year pay him for what he was not what he is contract by this management .

He has a nmc not eligible to trade him without his permission. He signed cheap to stay in Toronto.
Nylander is the obvious choice. Marner is a super star. Nylander just can off the only playoffs that he looked liked he may care. He is back to his usual self avoiding contact. Stick checking player.

 

[diceman934]

IMO the only realistic option for a trade (unless the leafs retain significant salary) is Matthews. Nylander, but that contract is good and he's playing very well.

Dubas is so in over his head it's crazy...

Nylander is not playing well currently. He has 2 points in his last 6 games and he avoids checks like crazy.

 

[Morbo]

Ritchie

 

[diceman934]

Well, thank you for that.

Love to see how they can alter an existing contract's terms?
If you can change terms of an existing contract, I'd say that opens the door to other changes.

Very interesting.

They did not change an existing contract but added new terms to the new contract that took in the remaining year on the contract. It was not a change in salary structure but just add protection from a trade from the date it was signed moving forward.

 

[Gabriel426]

Can people just take the Marner hate or Willie hate out for a sec.
Last I check, both of them are playing for the Leafs. Marner had a rough playoffs and bad season till 2 games ago. While Willie had a great playoffs and was good for the first 4-5 games but he disappears the last few games.
Also, if Willie is traded, he will most likely win the Cup before the remaining core Leafs due to his cap hit. Bc Willie most likely won't be the highest paid player nor first or even second option on that team. While if Marner is traded, baring Rangers, LA and Oilers, he would be the highest paid on the team and be expected to lead the team.
But this should be a simple concept, it had nothing to do with talents but more to do with cap hit.

Anyhow, if there is one player you can just trade away on the Leafs, that person is JT due to his contract.

 

[Notsince67]

Do you sell your big screen TV or your Stove/Fridge/Washer/Dryer ...

I think some people here should start by selling their bong.

 

[horner]

That’s not true? He played here 4 years and made him captain.

I’m not saying they have any plans to trade JT or he wouldn’t block it. But the idea that Toronto would have done JT wrong after 4 years isnt really fair.

especially if he wanted to move. I’m not saying. He does. But there is absolutely a world where it works out best for both.

my bet is he stays and takes spezza deals until retirement

If we miss the playoff and get a new gm who will have to retool the team . He may want to go chase a cup.

 

[Havoc]

Nylander is not playing well currently. He has 2 points in his last 6 games and he avoids checks like crazy.

You're mia for months when there's nothing bad to say about Nylander. Sorry if can't take your opinion about him serious.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Which makes it a very realistic option for a trade - that's exactly the sort of piece teams would be willing to give up a huge piece or 2 for.

Great idea: trade away the only player (other than the kids) who is actually worth his contract.

 

[diceman934]

You're mia for months when there's nothing bad to say about Nylander. Sorry if can't take your opinion about him serious.

Truth hurts. He has been hot garbage since the 3 game.

 

[diceman934]

Marner can hustle all he wants !!! It'll take far more than hustle for him to live up to that albatross contract. He'd need to score at least 30 goals and 50 assists every year to even come close to earning his paycheque !!! His cutesy plays don't work in the NHL. JMHO

So 80 points. He has past that every year since his 2nd season.
He is worth his contract. He is a super star. He was a first team all star and people like you want to trade him. His cutesy plays have worked. The man is among the most gifted players in the league. He is untouchable as far as I can see.