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If you were trading one player on this team, who would it be?

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zeke said:
All some people can think about is getting rid of players from this very good team.
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Weak players are still easy to pinpoint within a strong team that are deemed as kinks in the chain that can be expendable for upgrades while still keeping the same foundation of the team for the most part without hindering it's already proven strengths.
 
zeke said:
All some people can think about is getting rid of players from this very good team.
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There are lots of good teams. There comes a time though when you have to look hard at that good team and determine why it can’t take the next step. If it has stalled, then that good team needs to evolve.

A very good team like Carolina has moved out players like Lindholm/Hanifin, let Hamilton go to change the dynamic. A good team like NY lost Tavares but had to evolve and actually progress further post season to date.

Things change and evolve. When it’s time, you need the GM that can identify and change.
 
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Trapper said:
There are lots of good teams. There comes a time though when you have to look hard at that good team and determine why it can’t take the next step. If it has stalled, then that good team needs to evolve.

A very good team like Carolina has moved out players like Lindholm/Hanifin, let Hamilton go to change the dynamic. A good team like NY lost Tavares but had to evolve and actually progress further post season to date.

Things change and evolve. When it’s time, you need the GM that can identify and change.
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Identify areas you want to upgrade, no problem.

But the gist of this thread is just everyone wanting to get rid of players.
 
zeke said:
All some people can think about is getting rid of players from this very good team.
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The easy answer to this hypothetical question would be Petr Mrazek. Generally liked the signing, but with Campbell establishing himself and a UFA situation to stickhandle, the easiest subtraction to this group would be the middle class salary we give to Mrazek since he hasn't been able to contribute much.
 
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zeke said:
Identify areas you want to upgrade, no problem.

But the gist of this thread is just everyone wanting to get rid of players.
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It might come down to more than an upgrade. There is only so long you can shuffle the deck chairs. Brodie in, Barrie out was an upgrade. Joe Thornton out was an upgrade.

At some point, you need more than an upgrade.

Do you agree that if a good team can’t take the next step repeatedly, something bigger needs to happen. Not saying today or naming names, just the dynamic of the core is probably up next.
 
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New User Name said:
Definitely in the minority here but it would be Austin.
We have him for 2 more years after this year and the second year he has a NMC.

He could have signed for 8 but he wanted more, he's a greedy player. Because he's American and the Canadian/American tax agreement he brings home a hell of a lot more money than McDavid.

He's gone after this contract expires, that is a guarantee.
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Huge misconception but, Auston wanted 8 years, Managment wanted shorter term to keep the cap down so that they could better fill out the roster, and also I’m sure looking at how much more appealing re-signing a 27 year old vs a 30 year old to the 8 year deal would be for them after this deal is up.
 
zeke said:
Identify areas you want to upgrade, no problem.

But the gist of this thread is just everyone wanting to get rid of players.
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Of course we are getting rid of some players, that's how you make cap space and room on the roster for improvements

I wanted to move Mrazek and Ritchie, that's about 6M give or take
You could easily fill the #2G spot and have some serious fun with that kind of cash
 
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Marner ..... of course but not just for the sake of trading. For depth and cap relief. We would need the right package back. Still don't believe in this core... although they have improved their efforts marginally. Funny that they were all insulted when Ovechkin said they play wrong... two years later, seems they and the management learned that Ovechkin gave them the best consulting advice and it was free!
 
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James Blackley said:
He's making 3.8 million, he's NOT the backup, that was never the plan for him to play that role, injuries altered the course however. The plan was always to to a platoon style with the two goalies splitting games this season, and I have no doubts that's what will happen when he's 100% healthy.

This is a good thing actually, Mrazaek when healthy is a decent goalie, and we all know how good Soup is for this team... what's wrong with having two very capable goaltenders?
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you should re-read my message i don't think you understood it. i didnt say he's the backup (but i mean campbell looks like he'll take majority of the games he's lights out), i said he's a luxury worth having to win the division. When campbell doesn't play, he will.

You know what, I can't tell if you're agreeing with me and your post is just an add-on, or if you don't like what I said about Mrazek lol, If it's the former then ignore this.
 
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Jamason said:
Even with that lineup, I don't think we could catch Arizona, Ottawa, Montreal, Seattle, or Chicago.

And I don't think anyone since Brian Burke has failed to protect a lottery pick.
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Which pick? Az 1st 21 or 1st 23?

they can have protection on 1 but not both, this is Auston Matthews they're adding and can resign for whatever his ask is in 3 years so they'll have him for a possible maximum of 11 years, so in light of that, the draft picks can be sorted out similar to the Buff/Vegas deal

McCartney was an erroneous inclusion forget about him

the 2 Dmen Moser and Callahan, neither one is a for sure thing, both are what I'd call B+ prospects. Moser who was drafted as a double over-ager is an all round type of guy, think Sandin as a comparable, but maybe with a little less offensive savvy who's shown as responsible in his own end. Skating wise maybe a little less adept on his edges than Sandin. Callahan is a big stay at home type just finishing up his NCAA career. He has decent wheels with average straight line speed, he has a hard and accurate shot from the point. Of the two Dmen Moser may have the more desirable skills, but Callahan has that commodity that coaches can't teach, don't want to put a negative on the guy but think Justin Holl. Neither of these players will step into a full time job with the Leafs next season, but may land jobs with the Marlies.

The Leafs would have to intake salary and why Kessel is included, like I say we're already responsible for some of it and it's a expiring contract. Phil isn't burning it up but he still plays over 16 mins a game and is effective on the Coyotes PP, he could do the same job in Toronto shot from the right wall. Ritchie's absence will open up a spot amongst the forwards, for whatever reason Ritchie hasn't been able to get the sand off his skates here, and I'll take what Lawson Crouse brings over what Ritchie has showed so far.

Willie as I've said before has become a different player this year and may now have the drive necessary to play centre in the NHL.

Travis is in again tonight, and after the game he had the other night you have to ask yourself why? I don't think Sandin is hurt, but I can't stress this enough, Travis is in again, possibly showcasing him?

As for Sandin, if you had the choice Stralman or Sandin, I think I'd take the vet to pair up with Muzzin and have Holl, Liljegren and Sandin rotating in and out of the lineup as the 5/6 guys.

the 2nd in 24 is just a swap of who has the higher pick
 
therealkoho said:
Which pick? Az 1st 21 or 1st 23?

they can have protection on 1 but not both, this is Auston Matthews they're adding and can resign for whatever his ask is in 3 years so they'll have him for a possible maximum of 11 years, so in light of that, the draft picks can be sorted out similar to the Buff/Vegas deal

McCartney was an erroneous inclusion forget about him

the 2 Dmen Moser and Callahan, neither one is a for sure thing, both are what I'd call B+ prospects. Moser who was drafted as a double over-ager is an all round type of guy, think Sandin as a comparable, but maybe with a little less offensive savvy who's shown as responsible in his own end. Skating wise maybe a little less adept on his edges than Sandin. Callahan is a big stay at home type just finishing up his NCAA career. He has decent wheels with average straight line speed, he has a hard and accurate shot from the point. Of the two Dmen Moser may have the more desirable skills, but Callahan has that commodity that coaches can't teach, don't want to put a negative on the guy but think Justin Holl. Neither of these players will step into a full time job with the Leafs next season, but may land jobs with the Marlies.

The Leafs would have to intake salary and why Kessel is included, like I say we're already responsible for some of it and it's a expiring contract. Phil isn't burning it up but he still plays over 16 mins a game and is effective on the Coyotes PP, he could do the same job in Toronto shot from the right wall. Ritchie's absence will open up a spot amongst the forwards, for whatever reason Ritchie hasn't been able to get the sand off his skates here, and I'll take what Lawson Crouse brings over what Ritchie has showed so far.

Willie as I've said before has become a different player this year and may now have the drive necessary to play centre in the NHL.

Travis is in again tonight, and after the game he had the other night you have to ask yourself why? I don't think Sandin is hurt, but I can't stress this enough, Travis is in again, possibly showcasing him?

As for Sandin, if you had the choice Stralman or Sandin, I think I'd take the vet to pair up with Muzzin and have Holl, Liljegren and Sandin rotating in and out of the lineup as the 5/6 guys.

the 2nd in 24 is just a swap of who has the higher pick
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Is it in the rules that they can only protect one, or is that a suggested stipulation? I've never heard of it.

Also, only one 1st is Arizona's.

I would have thought Colorado would have lottery protected their 1st when they traded it, and that obviously would have to carry over.

Since we're long past the 2021 draft, I'm assuming you mean the'22, '23, and '24 drafts respectively.

Either way, we aren't going to get a decent chance at a first overall next year.

And if we're tanking that hard I'd definitely keep the 21 year old Sandin over the 35 year old Stralman.
 
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Nylanderthal said:
Huge misconception but, Auston wanted 8 years, Managment wanted shorter term to keep the cap down so that they could better fill out the roster, and also I’m sure looking at how much more appealing re-signing a 27 year old vs a 30 year old to the 8 year deal would be for them after this deal is up.
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Problem is the cap hit should’ve been this x 8. Matthews shouldn’t touch 12, that’s Mcdavid and draisaitl next raise money, not matthews. He should be making 10-11 x 8
 
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Aashir Mallick said:
Problem is the cap hit should’ve been this x 8. Matthews shouldn’t touch 12, that’s Mcdavid and draisaitl next raise money, not matthews. He should be making 10-11 x 8
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Yep

The 5 years to me was not a real good sign of commitment to the team or the city. He basically reamed the team and the salary cap at the same time.

I've always been about the team, not the name plate.
 
Matthews + 1 of Dermott, Engvall, Ritchie

Zabanajed + Lafrenier + 2nd 2022 + 1st 2023 +conditional 1st 2025 if Matthews resigns with them

It provides lots of flexibility moving forward Mika and Willie play together on the Swedish Nats and if Lafrenier gets it together he could easily be the 1LW for years to come.
 
therealkoho said:
Matthews + 1 of Dermott, Engvall, Ritchie

Zabanajed + Lafrenier + 2nd 2022 + 1st 2023 +conditional 1st 2025 if Matthews resigns with them

It provides lots of flexibility moving forward Mika and Willie play together on the Swedish Nats and if Lafrenier gets it together he could easily be the 1LW for years to come.
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I would probably trade holl, we have other capable defenseman and could get a good return I’d rather have Lilly in and have Dermott for depth I liked menell in preseason but haven’t followed the Marlies. Having depth at D is not a major concern though so I would only do it if I could get an upgrade on LW.
 
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