If Marc Bergevin is fired, who do you want for next Habs GM ?
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SOLR
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Disagree strongly, negotiation leads to more cap-space. More cap space to more opportunities.
That was always Lou Lamoriello's advantage.
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Said a guy sitting on his couch in the middle of nowhere.
Show some respect bud
You don't even know me or what I do.
I never wanted a hockey career.
It doesn't take very long for any serious executive to guess Gauthier's or Madden's potential. Madden has spent 20 years in scouting, he must not be a great manager or he would have risen much faster. Gauthier, well, he wasn't very smart on the ice, not sure how you think he's a genius.
Haven't voted yet. Chris Drury looks like the best combination of experience and energy; Dale Tallon would be great, but I'm not sure how much interest & energy he has left; Dean Lombardi's name isn't on the list, but he's a proven NHL winner.
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Is he? He's in his early 60s, not young but certainly not old. He's an exec with Philly so he's still in the game. That said, I have no idea if he's looking to get behind the steering wheel again. If Lombardi's still hungry, yeah, I'd grab him in a microsecond.
Tallon is 70 and walked away after a negative PR issue with Florida. Would he want to restart with another team? No idea. But he's very good.
EDIT: Lou Lamoriello is 78 and still the sharpest GM in the league. I don't think it's about age or raw intelligence. Some have the appetite and mindset for the position, others don't.
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Vachon23
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Martin Madden jr has done as good a job as Al Murray in Tampa or better since he became director of amateur scouting for Anaheim in 2008.
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Vachon23
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They are the best from a small, limited, pool. I doubt hockey players have a monopoly on leadership and guts, it's more a retirement plan that they all buy into: "you can't hire someone who didn't play at a high level, they won't get it." If you grow your pool from a few thousand people who played AHL/NHL to a few hundred thousand people who have some hockey background and skills in game theory/stats/probabilities/psychology/etc you will likely find some more capable people. I'm sure Bergevin thinks he has guts and leadership, but he doesn't have brains.
Education may not be critical, either, but I suspect it can help. You need to find a way to compare candidates and groom candidates. Most NHL coaches are bad to mediocre. Most NHL GMs are bad to mediocre. Expanding the pool gets more candidates. Comparing candidates is the tricky part, Mike Milbury got work after all.
Multiple concussions probably don't make for better executives, either.
According to sources Molson has not yet given any indication to extending Marc Bergevin after this season. Basically we have no GM for next season.
General manager Marc Bergevin signs a multi-year contract extension
General manager Marc Bergevin signs a multi-year contract extension
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No sign is good sign. Bergevin must now pray very hard that his team makes the Playoffs and win at least one round.
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The biggest problem other prgs have had with Roy in the past especially as a coach is that he wants too much control.
For us that may be best cause that means Molson would be doing less
For us that may be best cause that means Molson would be doing less
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Let's hope these sources are correct...........
This clown has had 9 years....
Vachon23
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Hopefully someone who can build a core that is great in less than 10 years. Can't believe Bergevin has been GM as long as he has been and the core is Price/Weber/Gallagher. Two out of the 3 already with organization before he joined and Weber he flipped with an existing core RD (Subban) one of one.
Maybe Suzuki/KK/Romanov/Primeau/Caufield/etc can be good enough one day...but these are all players acquired in last few years. First 5+ years were a complete write-off.
Maybe Suzuki/KK/Romanov/Primeau/Caufield/etc can be good enough one day...but these are all players acquired in last few years. First 5+ years were a complete write-off.
I wish we had no GM next year unfortunately he's still steering the ship next year.
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The most important role for the GM is hiring (And retaining) high quality people throughout the organization and you don't need to be an ex-player to do that. In terms of education, I doubt a formal education is all that important. Most people will learn way more on the job then in a classroom. Certainly intelligence is important, but a degree isn't all that great of an indicator for intelligence.
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We really shouldn't be wasting time talking about candidates that don't speak French. It's a non starter.
They might make an associate GM role the way they made a spot for Kirk muller behind the bench but that's as close as you can get.
They might make an associate GM role the way they made a spot for Kirk muller behind the bench but that's as close as you can get.
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