Seravalli: If Capitals retain 50 percent on Dowd, he could be traded for a first round pick

[bringbacktheskate604]

He was pretty useless in Vancouver already, but he does seem like a Tocchet kind of guy so who knows

Not a need and not at that cost.
I think pius who's had great chemistry with Hogz ends up back there. I could see Podz getting another look next to JT since they were quite effective together. I could also see Vatrano in Vancouver. He would be a really good fit and still has term on a great contract.

 

[Double Dion]

I suppose it's no more insane than Monahan getting a 1st.

 

[pman25]

Dowd can more than hold his own at 5v5 against anybody. His defensive impact is that of a selke candidate and has been matched against top lines all season. And a team would get two playoff runs with him and a cap hit at $1.3 or less if caps retain

In fact I wouldn’t move dowd for anything less than a 1st, no reason to move him unless you get that offer

 

[JimmyG89]

Dowd is worth a late first based on his contract and usage. Ever since he has been in Washington he has been asked to have the hardest role in the league.

He does not start in the offensive zone. Rarely if ever does. He comes out basically even in just about all possession and xG models. On top of that he'll chip in about 30 points.

I've been banging the drum for the Rangers to get him since Chytil went down and we didn't know if he'd come back. The prime example of his effect: Garnett Hathaway. Check that dude in Washington and now Philly. Night and day experience. He also did these things under Laviolette so that helps transitioning.

Your team gets better based on him eating the tough minutes and letting your top guns roll out in easier ones. Whoever gets him will be very happy they pulled the trigger.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Shades of GMs drunk on Paul Gaustad.

Wow that's a throwback

 

[Hansen]

tbt the canucks frantically replaced Nic Dowd with Jay Beagle on a 4 year 12 million contract and Dowd went to replace Beagle in Washington and drastically outperformed Beagle at league minimum

 

[dugg133]

I thought you can only retain down to league min?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Preparing for him being an AV? JK but Avs gotta do something at centre and Henrique is likely to costly based on your gms penchant for not a fan of bigger type deals.

I'd welcome him on the Avs.... And quite frankly he's the type of guy the Avs would target.

They rarely go after UFAs. Usually target guys with term or RFAs that they can re-sign. That's the market I expect they're involved in right now rather than the Monahan/Lindholm UFA market.

Boone Jenner, Brock Nelson, Casey Mittelstadt... I have a feeling those are the names the Avs are chasing down right now.

This is stupid. There's no crazy difference in role, value or difficulty in someone who centers a teams 3rd or 4th line

oh boy.

Dowd is worth a late first based on his contract and usage. Ever since he has been in Washington he has been asked to have the hardest role in the league.

He does not start in the offensive zone. Rarely if ever does. He comes out basically even in just about all possession and xG models. On top of that he'll chip in about 30 points.

I've been banging the drum for the Rangers to get him since Chytil went down and we didn't know if he'd come back. The prime example of his effect: Garnett Hathaway. Check that dude in Washington and now Philly. Night and day experience. He also did these things under Laviolette so that helps transitioning.

Your team gets better based on him eating the tough minutes and letting your top guns roll out in easier ones. Whoever gets him will be very happy they pulled the trigger.

Uhhhh, no he certainly does not. He actually has some of the very worst possession and xG metrics on the entire Capitals roster.

I still think he's solid defensively and plays tough minutes on a bad Caps team, but lets not start making complete nonsense up here.

 

[le_sean]

Yeah, I'd rather give a 1st for Dowd then Monahan quite frankly. At least with Dowd you're not going to try and force him further up the lineup and see him fail miserably like Monahan.

Plus, Dowd you get for 2 runs instead of 1 and at a cap hit below league minimum.

I wouldn't want to move a 1st for either of them, but if I had to pick one it'd be the 2 runs from Dowd over the failure waiting to happen in Monahan.

Monahan already has 35 points this season which is 10 more points than Dowd’s career high. This is just a lunatic take.

 

[Coffee]

I thought you can only retain down to league min?

Not sure, it’s a good question though, @GirardSpinorama @Filthy Dangles can we fact check this fellas?

 

[pman25]

Monahan already has 35 points this season which is 10 more points than Dowd’s career high. This is just a lunatic take.

There are other ways to impact the game than points. Dowd also does not play on the powerplay, Monahan does.

Dowd and Monahan are actually pretty close in points per 60 at 5v5. Add in Dowds defensive ability and his contract, makes perfect sense for a team like Edmonton or Colorado to spend a 1st, especially when they need to lock in contracts for next year at near league minimum.

 

[wetcoast]

The draft must be really, really bad this year if teams are seriously considering a first rounder for Nic Dowd. I'm not sure he's worth a first if you could retain 100% of his salary.

I'm sure he isn't worth a first rounder even retained.

I mean what GM is going to it's fan base and saying Nic Dowd is the 2024 version of Butch Goring, you know the missing piece for a deep SC run?

Boston needs centers how about them?

I think Buble maybe shared some shrooms with Seravelli at the all star weekend.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Laughton must be worth two 1sts then

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Sweet, means the Habs can get another 1st if they retain on Evans.

Neither should be worth more than a 3rd, but NHL GMs appear to be drunk, so give me that first.

 

[le_sean]

There are other ways to impact the game than points. Dowd also does not play on the powerplay, Monahan does.

Dowd and Monahan are actually pretty close in points per 60 at 5v5. Add in Dowds defensive ability and his contract, makes perfect sense for a team like Edmonton or Colorado to spend a 1st, especially when they need to lock in contracts for next year at near league minimum.

Dowd doesn’t play on the PP because he’s just an average 3rd liner. You can twist the 5v5 points as much as you want, Monahan is and always has been a far superior player while being younger and proven in the playoffs (lol 5 playoff points for Dowd). I mean Monahan has as many goals as Dowd has points this year. It’s just an asinine take and no GM in their right mind would prefer him over Monahan.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Not sure, it’s a good question though, @GirardSpinorama @Filthy Dangles can we fact check this fellas?

False.

 

[Coffee]

False.

Thanks brother

@dugg133

 

[T_Cage]

This is on you, Habs fans.

You wanted Monahan for a 1st so badly, this is what a post-Monahan for a 1st timeline looks like

 

[pman25]

Dowd doesn’t play on the PP because he’s just an average 3rd liner. You can twist the 5v5 points as much as you want, Monahan is and always has been a far superior player while being younger and proven in the playoffs (lol 5 playoff points for Dowd). I mean Monahan has as many goals as Dowd has points this year. It’s just an asinine take and no GM in their right mind would prefer him over Monahan.

I mean if you wanna go that route, Monahan hasn’t played a playoff game in 4 years, before his injury issue. He’s not proven anything lol

Teams are getting Dowd to defend leads and matchup against top lines. And His real value is in his contract and cap hit. I don’t know how else to explain this to you. A good GM would be smart to acquire him

 

[hockeykicker]

Dowd doesn’t play on the PP because he’s just an average 3rd liner. You can twist the 5v5 points as much as you want, Monahan is and always has been a far superior player while being younger and proven in the playoffs (lol 5 playoff points for Dowd). It’s just an asinine take.

well lets break it down then

20-21
Dowd- 11 goals in 56 games
Monahan- 10 goals in 50 games

21-22
Dowd- 10 goals in 64 games
Monahan- 8 goals in 65 games

cant really do 22-23 since monahan was injured

23-24
Dowd- 7 goals in 38 games
Monahan- 13 goals in 49 games

so yes he is totally a more superior player especially since dowd gets zero powerplay time

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Dowd doesn’t play on the PP because he’s just an average 3rd liner. You can twist the 5v5 points as much as you want, Monahan is and always has been a far superior player while being younger and proven in the playoffs (lol 5 playoff points for Dowd). I mean Monahan has as many goals as Dowd has points this year. It’s just an asinine take and no GM in their right mind would prefer him over Monahan.

I think its Winnipeg's turn to convince others that Monahan is better than a 4th liner!

 

[xECK29x]

Oh come on

I LOVE when agents have these “insiders” pump up their clients like this

 

[neelynugs]

if i'm gonna trade a 1st for nic dowd, why not trade two 1sts for a star player?

 

[Chainshot]

Shades of GMs drunk on Paul Gaustad.

Does Dowd have the same sort of d-zone to o-zone flip that Gaustad did? Poile's talked about how they tracked that internally around the league and that was what he was willing to pay to get that skill. Dowd's an excellent defensive player. For two years at $650K for a premium 4th line center, that may have more value than some ho-hum late first rounder.

 

[Silky mitts]

Why would a team ask for 650k of retention vs trading away a bad or mediocre contract, then Caps can get a first