I Warned You About Marner

[vHAB]

I might not even mind if the Leafs win a couple playoff rounds this year if Marner's the one carrying them. He's earned some good mojo from Canadian fans. Still f*** matthews tho

 

[Muffin]

Marner will win a cup before the Leafs if he walks.

 

[SenzZen]

Dropped a couple of serious dimes last night.

 

[Curufinwe]

You can only judge a player by what he's done. The best predictor of future success is past performance.

That is why everyone was totally right to call Datysuk a choking dog when he was 28 years old and had only scored 15 points in 42 playoff games.

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[Double-Shift Lasse]

Oiler fan here but Marner was Canada's best player all night & should have been named player of the game over McJesus although I totally get why.
Even before his 2 assists I was very impressed with the very smart plays he was making every shift & was not surprised he was reunited with McDavid for the last period & overtime. He was a beast all night.

Had a legit case to be tourney MVP, I think.

 

[golgoXIII]

great game and great tournament for Marner realy like his play , if you don't wan him anymore Leafs send him to my Habs

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That is why everyone was totally right to call Datysuk a choking dog when he was 28 years old and had only scored 15 points in 42 playoff games.

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Sure. And Datsyuk was an exception. There are others who fall into the same category I'm sure but Datsyuk's the one who comes to my mind. But you can only go on what's happened before. I mean, John Druce went on an insane playoff tear and nobody predicted that.

Again, Marner has always had the talent to do it. Never in question. But he's never stepped up when it mattered. Some guys step up right away, some do it later and some never do. Even me being the critic of him that I've been have openly said - he could do it at any time. It's always a possibility with a player of that stature. But he has to SHOW IT.

And in this tournament he did.

There will always be questions on him - same as any player - and players constantly have to keep re-proving themselves every year. But at least now, he can point to this and say that he's done it. He's won on the biggest stage.

I don't know if this carries over to the playoffs. I'm still skeptical about him. But I'd feel a lot better about him now than I did before if I was a Leaf fan.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

(* I am sure I will get a TON of backlash over this thread but... *)

I got so much grief over Marner. For years I said Marner should NOT be on Team Canada. For YEARS I was ridiculed.

I heard how good he is. How you cannot leave those points at home. How LOTS of players bleep the bed in the playoffs but do wonderfully when playing for Canada.

Marner's NO LOOK pass 6 on 5... WOW!

We lost possession and the next thing you know, it was 3-1. What was Marner thinking? Oh yeah, as usual, he wasn't thinking.

**

I hope we get a 2nd shot at the U.S. Pick up some momentum against Finland and win the GMG.

He warned us.

God damn Last Ditch Mitch.

 

[Roo]

This is why you don’t evaluate players on single games or even single plays. He was on the team for a reason, and just showed everyone why. Hopefully this silences his critics about his ‘big game’ ability.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

This is why you don’t evaluate players on single games or even single plays. He was on the team for a reason, and just showed everyone why. Hopefully this silences his critics about his ‘big game’ ability.

...so you can evaluate them on WINNING games where they were fantastic, and Marner was last night, but not the others where he was poor??...isn't that exactly what you're telling others not to do??...


...Marner showed last night that he can be a BIG GAME GUY and I'm as happy for him as anyone, but his critiques from the previous games were still valid...

 

[Roo]

...so you can evaluate them on WINNING games where they were fantastic, and Marner was last night, but not the others where he was poor??...isn't that exactly what you're telling others not to do??...


...Marner showed last night that he can be a BIG GAME GUY and I'm as happy for him as anyone, but his critiques from the previous games were still valid...

Who says I don’t criticize a bad game from him? I’m a leaf fan, of course I do. But I don’t pretend that one bad game represents that player. Look at the body of work. When leafs nation vilified the guy for a bad series against Boston and wanted him out, I was a supporter. Why? Because I know he’s better than that. Then he comes back and is arguably our mvp this year.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Who says I don’t criticize a bad game from him? I’m a leaf fan, of course I do. But I don’t pretend that one bad game represents that player. Look at the body of work. When leafs nation vilified the guy for a bad series against Boston and wanted him out, I was a supporter. Why? Because I know he’s better than that. Then he comes back and is arguably our mvp this year.

...last night's Marner was one of the best players in the World, that's not in question...the problem with Marner is that he HAS the talent to be THAT GUY every night; imo, that's where much of Marner's criticism comes from...intensity & involvement...imo, anyway...

 

[Devilmademedoit]

(* I am sure I will get a TON of backlash over this thread but... *)

I got so much grief over Marner. For years I said Marner should NOT be on Team Canada. For YEARS I was ridiculed.

I heard how good he is. How you cannot leave those points at home. How LOTS of players bleep the bed in the playoffs but do wonderfully when playing for Canada.

Marner's NO LOOK pass 6 on 5... WOW!

We lost possession and the next thing you know, it was 3-1. What was Marner thinking? Oh yeah, as usual, he wasn't thinking.

**

I hope we get a 2nd shot at the U.S. Pick up some momentum against Finland and win the GMG.

I see you have EDITED your post since he set up McDavid.

 

[Slats432]

I thought he had a pretty average tournament other than the OT winner against Sweden, except that great final game vs USA.

 

[Peiskos]

Mitch Marner is probably the best passer and set up guy in the world, he'd be the best the Americans have in that regard if he were from there.

 

[Bradely]

I thought Marner started slowlyy. Gave puck away, avoid contact. Cooper did a great job, moved him down the roster. IMO guy was trying to do too much.
But in the final, he did have a great game, got two big assists.

 

[notbias]

I thought Marner started slowlyy. Gave puck away, avoid contact. Cooper did a great job, moved him down the roster. IMO guy was trying to do too much.
But in the final, he did have a great game, got two big assists.

I really just think a line with McDavid/Marner/Reinhart was the issue.

Reinhart had a bad tourney (still a good player), but also, that line would pass too much and not have enough pace to get in on the forecheck.

I think Marner would have looked better from the start if he was with Point/McDavid, Point really helped bring that line together by using his speed and getting in on the forecheck.

A lot of shuffling lines to find the best combos, and I think they ended up with it at the end, good job Cooper.

 

[Bradely]

I really just think a line with McDavid/Marner/Reinhart was the issue.

Reinhart had a bad tourney (still a good player), but also, that line would pass too much and not have enough pace to get in on the forecheck.

I think Marner would have looked better from the start if he was with Point/McDavid, Point really helped bring that line together by using his speed and getting in on the forecheck.

Maybe... but those caliber player, IMO should not need anorther guy to be at their top. What I did like with Marner, is that he became much better thru the tournament. I would not be surprise, Marner not being the same in Toronto. Playing with guys that have won, in a dressing room that have won alot, will have an impact.

 

[Divine]

 

[macleafs]

I can believe our Mitch Marner saved Canada twice in a week. Scoring the OT winner and setting up the golden tap in

 

[A1LeafNation]

Maybe the problem was Keefe this whole time.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

He played great, very impressed by him

Still gonna be a hater though

 

[Yall are crazy]

Um do you know what Pat Kane has done? Mitch marner is no pat Kane. He wasn't as bad as Matthews this tournament but one good game in 4 isn't impressive. This playoffs will be huge for him.

Lol so blinded in your hate and rage it turned you illiterate

 

[ORRFForever]

I see you have EDITED your post since he set up McDavid.

I did?

If I did, it would have been for grammar only.

He warned us.

God damn Last Ditch Mitch.

I wrote a retraction and admitted the error of my ways.