I have serious concerns for next year (2023-24)

[Maple Leaf]

Grabovski, Kulemin and MacArthur lost for nothing?
Need better assess management

 

[cobber]

I love these yearly we're could miss the playoff posts.

 

[Notsince67]

I love these yearly we're could miss the playoff posts.

Great survey question for people you are thinking about inviting to a party and the guest list needs to be thinned down.

 

[Nineteen67]

I love these yearly we're could miss the playoff posts.

They’ve only missed once since Matthews was drafted.

It doesn’t matter that the division was weak, they still were able to make it.

 

[Dekes For Days]

They’ve only missed once since Matthews was drafted.

They haven't missed any year since Matthews was drafted.

 

[egd27]

There are also likely many times when a change was made too early 'just because', and quite possibly the original team might/would have won a title, but management/the fanbase got too impatient and demanded changes, and the changes ended up being for the worse.

Are you saying that posters that desire more change than they appear to be seeing are being "too impatient". What is the acceptable time frame before one becomes "too impatient"?

 

[Racer88]

They haven't missed any year since Matthews was drafted.

The year that they lost in the play in for the actual playoffs

 

[saffronleaf]

team is ass, future is dim

pinning hopes on domi and bertuzzi, who have a combined iq of 50, is not going to bode well

 

[notDatsyuk]

The year that they lost in the play in for the actual playoffs

The league considers that part of the playoffs.

It seems like the people who brag that we made the playoff X years in a row, or complain that we lost in the first round X years in a row, count it. The people who don't want to admit that we lost X years in a row in the first round, don't want to count it.

 

[Squiffy]

Are you saying that posters that desire more change than they appear to be seeing are being "too impatient". What is the acceptable time frame before one becomes "too impatient"?

I mean, there’s no resolving this right, hence the dozen threads on essentially the same topic, which granted is par for the course in August.

Either you’re the Capitals who break through for the Cup 3 centuries after you draft OV, or you’re the Sharks flaming out 3 centuries in a row, and you can’t actually know which you are until it’s all over.

In the mean time it’s a perception based opinion with no right or wrong. Me I keep trying with this group for now, it’s worth a shot.

Burnsie Gilmour Leafs, they were close, break or two coulda done it. Sundin 2000 era Leafs, always pretenders, they weren’t winning a Cup. Loved Sundin, and that team, don’t let it come of wrong, but they weren’t quite good enough ever, knew it then as much as I know it now.

This one, imo, is closer than those Sundin teams. They could go on a run and do it. It’d be a goalie getting hot behind it probably. It’s worth the shot still.

Opinions like buttholes right lol.. everyone’s got one. It’s beyond my control and I prefer to hope for the best next season. Go Leafs Go.

 

[Racer88]

The league considers that part of the playoffs.

It seems like the people who brag that we made the playoff X years in a row, or complain that we lost in the first round X years in a row, count it. The people who don't want to admit that we lost X years in a row in the first round, don't want to count it.

You are correct. I selectively apply it depending on who I am responding to……lol


I was genuinely hoping for some meaningful change this year, at minimum a new coach. Just running the same crap back again with just a few perimeter player changes is probably just a waste of another year

I’m not sure why my separate post was put in the box responding to you but here we are.
lol

 

[Dekes For Days]

The year that they lost in the play in for the actual playoffs

They made the playoffs in 2020, just like every other year.

 

[ACC1224]

The league considers that part of the playoffs.

It seems like the people who brag that we made the playoff X years in a row, or complain that we lost in the first round X years in a row, count it. The people who don't want to admit that we lost X years in a row in the first round, don't want to count it.

I always thought the Play-Ins were considered part of the Post Season for stat purposes but the Playoffs began after the Play-Ins determined the participants.

** I don't fit into any of those buckets you're describing.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I always thought the Play-Ins were considered part of the Post Season for stat purposes but the Playoffs began after the Play-Ins determined the participants.

It's all the playoffs. The NHL has explicitly said so multiple times in multiple ways. Not sure why it's so hard for some to just accept it.

 

[Nineteen67]

The league considers that part of the playoffs.

It seems like the people who brag that we made the playoff X years in a row, or complain that we lost in the first round X years in a row, count it. The people who don't want to admit that we lost X years in a row in the first round, don't want to count it.

It was simply an effort to give the bubble teams an opportunity to make the round of 16.
Would the Leafs have made it had the season continued? It was going to be dog fight.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I always thought the Play-Ins were considered part of the Post Season for stat purposes but the Playoffs began after the Play-Ins determined the participants.

** I don't fit into any of those buckets you're describing.

I'm not sure you can have it both ways, although there are some who like to, depending on what their point is at the moment.

I'm with you in not fitting buckets - must be a side effect of having a functional brain.

 

[Arzak]

I see, we made the playoffs but lost in round 0.

We made playoffs every year and there was no 1 round exit streak going on.

They made the playoffs in 2020, just like every other year.

I forgot about that one, can you remind me who we faced in the first round?

 

[notDatsyuk]

I see, we made the playoffs but lost in round 0.

We made playoffs every year and there was no 1 round exit streak going on.



I forgot about that one, can you remind me who we faced in the first round?

It was the playoffs, according to the league, and it was the first round, so therefore it was the first round of the playoffs. Columbus beat us.

 

[ACC1224]

It was simply an effort to give the bubble teams an opportunity to make the round of 16.
Would the Leafs have made it had the season continued? It was going to be dog fight.

It was the playoffs, according to the league, and it was the first round, so therefore it was the first round of the playoffs. Columbus beat us.

According to NHL Columbus played Tampa in Round 1.

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[LeafEgo]

I'm not sure you can have it both ways, although there are some who like to, depending on what their point is at the moment.

I'm with you in not fitting buckets - must be a side effect of having a functional brain.

It was playoff hockey on the ice so you can't ignore it when looking at the pattern of our performance under those conditions, but at the same time calling it 'making the playoffs' is just a bit embarrassing as we didn't finish in the top 16 teams and were on the losers conference call waiting to see if we won the draft lottery.

Just a weird situation that year, but there's no favorable way of interpreting what happened.

 

[saffronleaf]

whether they made it or not they got destroyed and humiliated, by nick foligno of all people, truly a shameless team

 

[Racer88]

It's all the playoffs. The NHL has explicitly said so multiple times in multiple ways. Not sure why it's so hard for some to just accept it.

Because the playoffs start with 16 teams

whether they made it or not they got destroyed and humiliated, by nick foligno of all people, truly a shameless team

When they lost to a Zamboni driver in net for the other team they cemented their legacy as a shameless team

 

[ACC1224]

It was playoff hockey on the ice so you can't ignore it when looking at the pattern of our performance under those conditions, but at the same time calling it 'making the playoffs' is just a bit embarrassing as we didn't finish in the top 16 teams and were on the losers conference call waiting to see if we won the draft lottery.

Just a weird situation that year, but there's no favorable way of interpreting what happened.

This is a good way of putting it.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Because the playoffs start with 16 teams

Throughout NHL history, there are a lot of seasons where the playoffs did not start with 16 teams. 2020 was one of them.

I forgot about that one, can you remind me who we faced in the first round?

We faced Columbus in the preliminary round, which was part of the playoffs. The NHL decides this; not you, me, or anybody else.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

My only concern for next season? If stinkn Nashville will find a way to keep me outa their barn when the Leafs roll into town;, because they decided to zone restrict ticket sales….