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Hypothetical If Arizona Pick Bedard would a Matthews/Bedard deal be possible?

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I wasn't very worried about Arizona to begin with, but given their current situation playing in a dumpster fire arena it has all but axed what we were a little worried about.

Absolutely zero chance Matthews now leaves to play for that organization, which it already was basically zero.

After this 8 year deal is when we can sweat, but in all honesty I'm all good at that point. You wanna leave for your hometown team in your mid 30s? You've earned that right.
 
TheScandal89 said:
Imo if Arizona get him it gives Matthews a reason to walk and go there for free. Matthews/Bedard at centre would be enough to stop Arizona from being the NHLs joke.

That is why I don't really want them getting 1st overall.
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I don't see that at all.
It would set him back for winning a cup.
Leafs now are closer that present Arizona team + Bedard and Matthews
 
Americanadian said:
If you believe that then that is your prerogative but not everyone has to believe it.
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I mean, if arbitrarily dismissing your top-tier team's potential for no reason is that important to you, then I guess you do you.
A trade like this would never happen in a million years anyway, so there's nothing to worry about for the rest of us.
Heck, the idea that Matthews would waive to go to that dumpster fire in the first place is ridiculous.
 
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It's a hypothetical of course as no player is untouchable, therefore, yes, if AZ picked up Bedard, I think they would trade him for Matthews after some internal debate.

They'd view that as a means to sell a few years of season tickets. Now Matthews would have to be willing to leave the centre of hockey to go home to a place he knows will never be the centre of sporting interest, nor a consistent draw for top players, even with his presence.

I'm guessing his top choices would be Vegas or the Kings, both close to home and I imagine Vegas could be a fun place to play. My money would definitely be on Vegas (no pun intended) if he leaves the Leafs.

With the salary he will make, he will almost certainly never play with the talent the Leafs can provide him. If he stays in Toronto and the cap continues to increase, the Leafs will be a perennial playoff team for years. Not even Vegas can say this, especially if they have to try and fit in his salary.

If Matty is a hockey player pursuing a legacy he definitely resigns with the Leafs, he would be celebrated all across the NHL long after he is gone. If he wins a Cup he could literally run for Mayor and win. The Leafs are also the type of team who would do him a solid later in his career if he wished.

I'd just like to see some players win a Cup in Toronto and retire a Leaf. That would be the ultimate sweater raising when they are done. I look to the Penguins as such a model, from Mario to Sid, Malkin, Letang.
 
saltming said:
I don't see that at all.
It would set him back for winning a cup.
Leafs now are closer that present Arizona team + Bedard and Matthews
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The Leafs are cursed and havent won a round since I was a kid lol. Sure its 3 steps back with the potential to move 10 steps forward.

If we lose again in the 1st round, are we really that much ahead though?
 
TheScandal89 said:
The Leafs are cursed and havent won a round since I was a kid lol. Sure its 3 steps back with the potential to move 10 steps forward.

If we lose again in the 1st round, are we really that much ahead though?
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I would say yes.
Arizona also doesn't have the deep pockets that Toronto does. There is way more chance Toronto wins another cup before Arizona at this point
 
saltming said:
I would say yes.
Arizona also doesn't have the deep pockets that Toronto does. There is way more chance Toronto wins another cup before Arizona at this point
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Its true that they've been a train wreck, but they've shown they can spend if they get the chance. They did have a team that lost to the Kings in the conference finals about 10 years ago. And while that team lacked stars, they did spend a lot of money on depth forwards and must have been decently close to the max cap.
 
Wow, this is so bad. Never going to be worth it for either team based on risk. The coyote's cant risk not extending Mathews, and Toronto can't risk trading one of the best players in the league. Just not a deal here. The coyotes are doing a proper rebuild; they need cost-controlled generational talent. Mathews doesn't make any sense for another 3=4 years when the Yotes are ready to contend. He may not make sense even then depending on team construction.
 
TheScandal89 said:
Its true that they've been a train wreck, but they've shown they can spend if they get the chance. They did have a team that lost to the Kings in the conference finals about 10 years ago. And while that team lacked stars, they did spend a lot of money on depth forwards and must have been decently close to the max cap.
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I'm more referring to the money spent in the office rather than the players.
Atm leafs development staff is top notch. Facilities, coaching, & health and science all tops.
That said 10 years ago Imo was a good run but that happens from time to time with a team usually by a hot goalie.
Leafs atm are light years ahead of Arizona on the ice and off the ice team.
 
How about we make that trade and then re-sign Matthews the following off-season once he becomes a UFA so we have both? :D

Seriously though, this isn't realistic.
 
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NewZealandMike said:
Completely Hypothetical but If it appears Austin wants the moon and Arizona lands Bedard in Lottery is this a possible deal?
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No chance. For the door to even be open the club would need to be prepared for a retool on the fly and no matter how good Bedard could become he won't match Matty right away (he isn't Gretzky). If they floundered to another 1st round loss and KD is replaced would the next GM be in rebuild mode? Plus Bedard is a winger and we really don't know how successful Nylander can be as a center. I can't see it, even if they knew they were going to be able to add Horvat with the cap space.

If the Matthews negotiation somehow became completely toxic and they actually considered a trade it would have to be for multiple high end pieces that could step in and perform from day one, and one of those pieces would need to be a top line center. This is Mitch and Willie's window too so they are in win-now mode every year even without AM. Still an almost impossible thing but not the same as trading your superstar for for an unproven player.
 
My point was based on, Austin wanting the maximum contract, do you sign $15m a year, or deal for super star 18 yr old and have $14m in cap space to land what you need
 
Warden of the North said:
The ultimate Hfboards nonsense. Reigning MVP + Rocket winner for a prospect.

Insane.
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Why is it insane? Bedard is gonna be good. Worse than Matthews in his first couple years, but it'll be Matthews + scrub for Bedard plus $11M (or less if Bedard gets bonuses). I mean add even 9M player to maximum bonus Bedard and it's >>> Matthews...
 
Kshahdoo said:
Why is it insane? Bedard is gonna be good. Worse than Matthews in his first couple years, but it'll be Matthews + scrub for Bedard plus $11M (or less if Bedard gets bonuses). I mean add even 9M player to maximum bonus Bedard and it's >>> Matthews...
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People also said Lafreniere was going to be good. Not every 1st overall turns into a superstar right away
 
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Its not even theoretically possible. Matthews got NMC, he either gets resigned (which he will), or he playing with Beddar in Arizona.
 
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