OT: Hurricanes Lounge XLV: Y2K Twenty-Four Years Later

Derailed75

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The way they get around that caveat is by the mantra "We tolerate everything but intolerance" which is the result of mining this insipid tautology from leftist philosopher Karl Popper: "

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.”​



Nevermind, feel like my comment was gonna get me banned
 

WreckingCrew

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Around HFB? Maybe. But I’d say we got super open-minded mods.

I once got a warning for saying what I got warning for. It was apparently disclosure of personal information.
Same here way back when I first got on here, which I found really because it's like getting a ticket for telling someone you got a speeding ticket. Now we're both going to get a warning for mentioning we got a warning for saying we got a warning
 
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cptjeff

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Around HFB? Maybe. But I’d say we got super open-minded mods.

I once got a warning for saying what I got warning for. It was apparently disclosure of personal information.

The local constabulary is pretty willing to let things slide as long as things aren't getting heated, but sometimes globals or admins drop in and have different opinions.

And the no discussion of moderation rule is just broadly ridiculous. If anything, discussing moderation lets people better understand where the lines are, which, if you want people to actually behave, is only a positive. But it is a rule, so tut tut, let's drop that line of discussion.
 

WreckingCrew

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The local constabulary is pretty willing to let things slide as long as things aren't getting heated, but sometimes globals or admins drop in and have different opinions.

And the no discussion of moderation rule is just broadly ridiculous. If anything, discussing moderation lets people better understand where the lines are, which, if you want people to actually behave, is only a positive. But it is a rule, so tut tut, let's drop that line of discussion.
Yea I think HFCanes for the most part is pretty chill. It's over on the HFMain that it's just like NHL officiating, fans of some franchises are allowed to get away with murder while those from "lesser" franchises can't even criticize without it being considered "flaming"
 

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Yeah the last time, and I think you were included in the ban I didn't think anyone from either side said anything out of line.

The last ban wave, I assume, was due to their “No politics“ rule. Which, to be fair, I can see the reasoning behind. It’s a very violate topic, especially lately, and while I agree that no one said anything out of line, it seems like one of those rules that they have to enforce harshly because if they allow the topic to be discussed, it almost always eventually ends up in a very heated circular discussion.

That being said, as more and more aspects of everyday life apparently become “political issues”, the banning of such discussions would eventually lead to the absence of all off-topic discussion. The Chik-Fil-A post is a prime example of that. When I first posted it, politics was the last thing on my mind. I just thought it was a very weird idea that had almost no chance of success and wanted to see if others had a reasonable explanation. The initial answer was pushing far-right propaganda, which it could very well be, given Chik-Fil-A’s previous history, but Dave also provided the answer of tax manipulation, which also makes sense. And has nothing to do with politics.
 

Finlandia WOAT

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promote their agenda

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cptjeff

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The last ban wave, I assume, was due to their “No politics“ rule. Which, to be fair, I can see the reasoning behind. It’s a very violate topic, especially lately, and while I agree that no one said anything out of line, it seems like one of those rules that they have to enforce harshly because if they allow the topic to be discussed, it almost always eventually ends up in a very heated circular discussion.

That being said, as more and more aspects of everyday life apparently become “political issues”, the banning of such discussions would eventually lead to the absence of all off-topic discussion. The Chik-Fil-A post is a prime example of that. When I first posted it, politics was the last thing on my mind. I just thought it was a very weird idea that had almost no chance of success and wanted to see if others had a reasonable explanation. The initial answer was pushing far-right propaganda, which it could very well be, given Chik-Fil-A’s previous history, but Dave also provided the answer of tax manipulation, which also makes sense. And has nothing to do with politics.

Ultimately, politics is how we collectively choose to organize society, and thus any discussion of any way society should change or stay the same when it's changing is politics. Obviously that's way too broad to be useful for a discussion forum.

Of course, when most people think of the term "politics", they're thinking mostly of electoral politics, parties and elections. That's pretty clearly out of bounds here, and I'm fine with that, and I think everyone gets that. But when you're discussing social issues without regard to the electoral and partisan battles of it, I tend to think that's appropriate for an off topic thread as long as things aren't getting too heated. At that point it becomes more about the flaming and trolling side than the fact that it's political per se, though there are some topics (abortion, Israel-Palestine) where I've generally just nuked posts as soon as I see them. Ultimately, all of this is a judgement call.
 

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The Concert for Carolina had an attendance of 82,193. A 6 hour event that raised: $24,513,185.00 Everything sold goes to relief efforts - tickets, merch, food, booze and tips.

Luke Combs and Eric Church put on a wonderful event with an array of performers. A fun yet touching occasion and people were genuinely so nice. Hadn't been to a show that ended at 1:00 am in quite some time. Hope it helps to ease the pain a little for some.
 

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TLDR: They used AI to transcribe interactions with patients. AI added murderous intent and bigotry to the transcriptions, and occasionally invented medication the patients received.
 
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Surrounded By Ahos

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I visited Antietam National Battlefield for the first time this weekend. I’ve been meaning to do it for years and finally made the time. It was a really incredible experience. The battlefield is extremely well preserved. All of the monuments and trails are well marked and maintained. I got a bit choked up walking through the west woods trail. For me it was an easy hike on a beautiful autumn day. For several thousand boys and men it became hell on earth. I spoke to a woman at the bloody lane whose ancestor was a union soldier who attacked that position.

He was 15. f***ing 15. It’s unimaginable.


I can’t recommend it highly enough; for anybody. Even if you don’t have any interest in American history. It’s an extremely sobering place.
 
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MrazeksVengeance

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Ultimately, politics is how we collectively choose to organize society, and thus any discussion of any way society should change or stay the same when it's changing is politics. Obviously that's way too broad to be useful for a discussion forum.

Of course, when most people think of the term "politics", they're thinking mostly of electoral politics, parties and elections. That's pretty clearly out of bounds here, and I'm fine with that, and I think everyone gets that. But when you're discussing social issues without regard to the electoral and partisan battles of it, I tend to think that's appropriate for an off topic thread as long as things aren't getting too heated. At that point it becomes more about the flaming and trolling side than the fact that it's political per se, though there are some topics (abortion, Israel-Palestine) where I've generally just nuked posts as soon as I see them. Ultimately, all of this is a judgement call.
Fun story, I actually teach some 3rd year med students in English program. 2 girls from Iran, 3 girls and 1 guy from Israel.

No explosive relations thus far.
 

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