OT: Hurricanes Lounge XLV: Y2K Twenty-Four Years Later

Negan4Coach

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I mean, this is a nothing burger. If your tweets are public and you block someone, that person can simply open an incognito tab, pull up your Twitter, and read the tweets while not logged in (which means they can’t interact with them). So basically they’re just saying you don’t have to log out to read these tweets anymore, but folks aren’t getting any more or less access than they previously were.

If you want to be a pessimist who hates Musk and say that’s the beginning of a snowball to some other thing, fine. But the change itself seems very minor, unless I’m missing something.

Yeah for real. IDK why people get so worked up over what he does with one of the several major social media platforms. All I know is I can now post what I think without being silenced or fear of retribution.
They have an opinion on why people don't know?
Many of the folks I talked to there believe HAARP was used to geo-engineer the storm to steal their land for critical mineral mining.

Its funny that HAARP is still a thing- I remember thinking it was responsible for TWA Flight 800 being ripped apart in 1996 when the internet was still in its infancy. Which I became aware of thanks to the Montauk Project (which is the legend that spawned the show "Stranger Things")
 
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Which I became aware of thanks to the Montauk Project (which is the legend that s
Yup, and if you do a little digging, everything about that project is a little creepy. Only place I've ever seen where the front door to the facility is closed off by a 5ft thick concrete slab put there to prevent anyone from ever getting in. And yet, the military still has armed guards at the entrance. My wife's grandfather was stationed at Camp Hero after the war and they still had their house, so I got to visit a few times and, yeah. One wrong turn and you're going to have a guard with a rifle knocking on your window asking where you're going.

Which is odd for a base that was abandoned 50 years ago.
 

Negan4Coach

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Yup, and if you do a little digging, everything about that project is a little creepy. Only place I've ever seen where the front door to the facility is closed off by a 5ft thick concrete slab put there to prevent anyone from ever getting in. And yet, the military still has armed guards at the entrance. My wife's grandfather was stationed at Camp Hero after the war and they still had their house, so I got to visit a few times and, yeah. One wrong turn and you're going to have a guard with a rifle knocking on your window asking where you're going.

Which is odd for a base that was abandoned 50 years ago.
I grew up there, and explored every square inch of that base when I was in high school in the late 80s, a few years after it was "abandoned". We used to dress up in camo and sneak in at night and camp out in the old barracks. Been on top of the radar tower and went through all the bunkers, down several levels under ground.

There were guards there back then (last time I went back was 2012 and it is now a state park and you can pretty much walk around the whole area) and they'd chase us when they'd spot us. Always there were white vans parked in random places near there.

The really strange thing was there was still tons of radar and other electrical equipment still there, and had been smashed in place. Stacks of documents were in the center of rooms in the radar tower, having been burned, almost like an emergency evacuation of an embassy. Inside the bunkers, there had been fresh concrete poured, sealing off additional rooms, and the lower levels of the bunker were flooded with water.

When the book "The Montauk Project" came out in the early, 90s, I read it and was like "wow, this is really over the top". It really runs wild with the conspiracy theories. All I know is- something weird went on there, they unassed the base in a hurry, and still maintained a nominal presence there. I think the whole legend of the inter-dimensional portals, shadow beasts, and mind-control was just a psyop to cover for something more banal yet still shady.
 

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I grew up there, and explored every square inch of that base when I was in high school in the late 80s, a few years after it was "abandoned". We used to dress up in camo and sneak in at night and camp out in the old barracks. Been on top of the radar tower and went through all the bunkers, down several levels under ground.

There were guards there back then (last time I went back was 2012 and it is now a state park and you can pretty much walk around the whole area) and they'd chase us when they'd spot us. Always there were white vans parked in random places near there.

The really strange thing was there was still tons of radar and other electrical equipment still there, and had been smashed in place. Stacks of documents were in the center of rooms in the radar tower, having been burned, almost like an emergency evacuation of an embassy. Inside the bunkers, there had been fresh concrete poured, sealing off additional rooms, and the lower levels of the bunker were flooded with water.

When the book "The Montauk Project" came out in the early, 90s, I read it and was like "wow, this is really over the top". It really runs wild with the conspiracy theories. All I know is- something weird went on there, they unassed the base in a hurry, and still maintained a nominal presence there. I think the whole legend of the inter-dimensional portals, shadow beasts, and mind-control was just a psyop to cover for something more banal yet still shady.
One of the theories that I've heard about why it was all sealed off was that they were doing some kind of nuclear testing underground, and the there was still enough radiation present that it would have been unsafe to allow anyone in. All documents were burned to scrub any remaining evidence of what those tests were and there are armed guards still there because its technically still a military site due to the radiation.

Who knows, but its the one explanation that I've heard that makes the most sense, especially knowing Camp Hero was used extensively during the Cold War.
 
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One of the theories that I've heard about why it was all sealed off was that they were doing some kind of nuclear testing underground, and the there was still enough radiation present that it would have been unsafe to allow anyone in. All documents were burned to scrub any remaining evidence of what those tests were and there are armed guards still there because its technically still a military site due to the radiation.

Who knows, but its the one explanation that I've heard that makes the most sense, especially knowing Camp Hero was used extensively during the Cold War.

Nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons research seems like a safe bet. Somebody was playing with something they shouldn't have been and things got badly contaminated.

Knowing the kind of shit DOD was pulling in the early Cold War era, they probably decided to test the effects of prolonged radiation exposure on radar equipment and the soldiers operating it and, er, "neglected" to tell the guinea pigs what they were being subjected to.
 
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Nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons research seems like a safe bet. Somebody was playing with something they shouldn't have been and things got badly contaminated.

Knowing the kind of shit DOD was pulling in the early Cold War era, they probably decided to test the effects of prolonged radiation exposure on radar equipment and the soldiers operating it and, er, "neglected" to tell the guinea pigs what they were being subjected to.
Only way to truly avoid the Placebo Effect is to simply not tell someone they're being experimented on!!!
 
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