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Raccoon Jesus said:
Local example of bad access to timely care:

Los Angeles County said a 17-year-old was the youngest US victim of COVID-19. Then it backtracked on the diagnosis.
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Awful. It's exactly what the study was talking about in saying the US lags all other high-income nations in terms of access to health care, and this crisis is going to amplify that stark reality at the cost of people's lives.

I know trending towards politics gets posts taken down around here, but history will not look kindly on a country with so much money and still so many without access to basic healthcare.
 
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BringTheReign said:
Awful. It's exactly what the study was talking about in saying the US lags all other high-income nations in terms of access to health care, and this crisis is going to amplify that stark reality at the cost of people's lives.

I know trending towards politics gets posts taken down around here, but history will not look kindly on a country with so much money and still so many without access to basic healthcare.
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There is no excuse for anyone to not be insured
Health insurance has been available to everyone for years through Covered California including subsidies for low income peeps.
In fact, there is a fine effective this year in CA for not having it
 
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The Gov. Cuomo press conference today was really informative.

They've bought 7,000 hand ventilators as a backup. The thought is to have national guard troops trained on how to operate. The technology is simple, but imagine how many people you would need to hand ventilate patients 24/7. You have to hand squeeze the bag for every breath for many days per patient.

One day does not make a trend, but there are positive numbers from yesterday.

Yesterday they had 172 new ICU admissions vs. 374 the day before.

They had 847 new hospitalizations vs. 1,154 the day before.

Deaths are a result of patients that have been on ventilators the longest. The longer a patient is on a ventilator, the less likely they are to survive. Most deaths involve patients with pre-existing illnesses, primarily respiratory conditions and compromised immune system.

Not mentioned by the governor, but each ICU death opens up a ventilator.
 
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Approximately 64,500 cases of COVID-19 in the states of New Jersey and New York. This is over half of the approximately 123,000 cases reported in the entire United States.

United States Coronavirus: 123,428 Cases and 2,211 Deaths - Worldometer

I am sure the number of tests given, and confirmed cases in the New York City / Newark metro area is driving their percentage of the total. I believe it does say something though about the population density as well. In the Midwest and West we don't live so tightly packed. We love our social distancing from our neighbors (our own backyards and single family homes).

In the New York metro area how many apartment dwellers are sharing a ventilation system with their next door neighbor? I think it is having an impact on the number of cases they are seeing.
 
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Dr. Birx said, I think on Thursday, that the deaths occurring now were from infections that started before NY was engaged in its current mitigation efforts. She said it would be more than a week before we see the impact of those mitigation efforts, inferring that we are in for a bad week.

Deaths doubled in NY today.
 
KINGS17 said:
Approximately 64,500 cases of COVID-19 in the states of New Jersey and New York. This is over half of the approximately 123,000 cases reported in the entire United States.

United States Coronavirus: 123,428 Cases and 2,211 Deaths - Worldometer

I am sure the number of tests given, and confirmed cases in the New York City / Newark metro area is driving their percentage of the total. I believe it does say something though about the population density as well. In the Midwest and West we don't live so tightly packed. We love our social distancing from our neighbors (our own backyards and single family homes).

In the New York metro area how many apartment dwellers are sharing a ventilation system with their next door neighbor? I think it is having an impact on the number of cases they are seeing.
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yeah hard to 'distance' when you have neighbors in 8 directions around you

one 'good' thing about socal's urban sprawl, minus DTLA
 
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Legionnaire said:
Asshole? Personal space is an essential liberty.
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Sure, but "asshole" and "people" are synonyms, take your pick. Note I included myself.

Raccoon Jesus said:
Pretty sure @Bandit is just contrasting how 'fortunate' we are to have the option to get jammed up in our own personal vehicles on the 405 instead of passing hundreds or thousands of people at arms' length or closer on a subway (with respect to the spread of a virus)
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Pretty much.
 
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I guess be thankful the northeast happened to be settled first, and in the expansion west, there was just more room to work with.

Although in good times, when everything is close by, you don't have to spend hours and hours on a freeway. Of course the food comes from where nobody lives. Of course without the mass cities, you wouldn't get the scale needed for modernity. Probably shouldn't build huge cities on fault lines either. Or where hurricanes hit.
 
Here's some updated info from New York, some positive, some not.

59,513 positive cases, with 8,503 hospitalizations (14%) and 2,037 ICUs (3.4%). 3,572 patients discharged. 965 dead.

Hospital admissions the last 4 days: 1,248, 1,154, 847 and 1,175 yesterday.

ICU admissions: 182, 374, 172 and 282.
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Change in daily intubations: 222, 290, 200 and 165.

Discharges: 450, 528, 681 and 846.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Pretty sure @Bandit is just contrasting how 'fortunate' we are to have the option to get jammed up in our own personal vehicles on the 405 instead of passing hundreds or thousands of people at arms' length or closer on a subway (with respect to the spread of a virus)
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I will volunteer to be one of the designated assholes. I have plenty of toilet paper
 
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Hmmm.

Worldometers (GMT) has switched to a new "day".

New deaths worldwide dropped to 3,105 after 3,518 the day before.

US deaths dropped from 525 to 264.

New York with only 82 deaths after more than 200 the previous day.

Might just be less reporting worldwide because it's a Sunday. In US, it might just be missing the arbitrary worldometers reporting deadline.
 
HeadInjury said:
Hmmm.

Worldometers (GMT) has switched to a new "day".

New deaths worldwide dropped to 3,105 after 3,518 the day before.

US deaths dropped from 525 to 264.

New York with only 82 deaths after more than 200 the previous day.

Might just be less reporting worldwide because it's a Sunday. In US, it might just be missing the arbitrary worldometers reporting deadline.
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Didn't this happen last Sunday as well?

Here's hoping it's good news and confirmed tomorrow though
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Didn't this happen last Sunday as well?

Here's hoping it's good news and confirmed tomorrow though
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i remember checking the ca dph numbers last weekend and even though their number went up in the 24 hours update, they claimed the next day that the 2nd day's numbers reflected 2 days worth of data so i'm not sure there's any standardization to how they report
 
Worldometers adjusted our numbers from yesterday up to 362. This was due to adding NY's actual deaths from yesterday, which was 180. Both numbers still lower than the day before.

Over the weekend, the FDA approved use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine in treating hospitalized COVID-19 patients.

FDA issues emergency-use authorization for anti-malaria drugs amid coronavirus outbreak

Hopefully there's something scientific backing this up. Clinical trials began last week. The great thing about these drugs in they are cheap and in mass production already.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Good news, Abbott point-of-care test has been approved by the FDA. Test results available within 5 to 15 minutes.
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I love good news.

While I think most of us are conditioned as Kings fans to be hope-for-the-best-imagine-and-plan-for-the-worst, I hope more than anything that we get random POSITIVE twists and turns out of this thing, like suddenly the cure is maple syrup, or a vaccine in 3 months, or the virus just peters out completely in the heat. Like you would think there's at least one happy twist in here, right? With so many people around the world working so hard to convert production, research answers...
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I love good news.

While I think most of us are conditioned as Kings fans to be hope-for-the-best-imagine-and-plan-for-the-worst, I hope more than anything that we get random POSITIVE twists and turns out of this thing, like suddenly the cure is maple syrup, or a vaccine in 3 months, or the virus just peters out completely in the heat. Like you would think there's at least one happy twist in here, right? With so many people around the world working so hard to convert production, research answers...
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Well, if convalescent blood plasma is thought of as maple syrup, then there ya go. I think it is the answer for folks in the ICU on vents. Question is can they get enough of it.
 
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Well, I guess my cousin who lives in Montreal has it / had it and is now recovering from a bone marrow extraction. Apparently, he had some virus previously which he built up antibodies that could help with Covid19.
 
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