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jfont said:
And the peak, experts say, will be in late April..
Argh!
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these Pejorative Slurs packing themselves onto spring break beach parties probably aren't going to help things

personally i'm happy about how heavily we've shut things down in response, i have family in dentistry and teaching and both their industries which are pretty high risk when it comes to spreading things, have basically shut down to non-essential or emergency services. basically done all we can to reasonably slow it even if we can't control it yet

people will get some time to kick it with their families and chill the f*** out while stemming the bleeding
 
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Reaper45 said:
How about Globalism is not a good idea.
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In general, I agree globalism is only good for limited portions of the economy. If companies still want to get non-essential products made in China, no problem.

At this point, there has to be a careful determination on which products are required to be produced domestically. Greenies are going to scream because it will mean more smoke stack pollution, but it appears the pendulum swung too far in terms of let China make it cheaper in their country and pollute their atmosphere. American companies are going to have to come to grips with this and lower their expectations on profits accordingly.
 
HeadInjury said:
475 deaths in Italy today. It will surpass China's official (likely false) death totals tomorrow.

Two weeks ago, Italy's death count was at 107, just below where we are of the moment (117).

The death rate in the US continues fall as more testing is done. It's now about 1.5% of reported cases. No way to have a real figure since we don't really know how many are infected and only a small number of people who have had it are recovered at this point.
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China cremated thousands of corpses without counting them as virus-related deaths. I think we can be sure of it.
 
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This is an interesting story:
Medical company threatens to sue volunteers that 3D-printed valves for life-saving coronavirus treatments

Apparently some resourceful volunteers reverse-engineered some valves used in medical equipment in the treatment of COVID-19. They then used their reverse-engineered drawings to make the valves using 3-D printing. Awesome job guys!!

The ahole company, which makes the valve, wants to sue them for patent infringement. Very stupid idea!! Nice PR move there morons. Of course, the company should be compensated eventually in some form of licensing agreement. They have a right to be compensated and make a profit from their design and development work.

I find this interesting. In the future will 3-D printers, which can be loaded with licensed designs, become a part of every hospital's standard equipment? Some day robotic surgery using robots making more precise surgical cuts, etc. than is possible with human manual dexterity. All made by the most expert surgeons in the world controlling the robot over a 5G real-time communication system. Technology will allow us to spread our limited expert resources to places in the world where they do not exist today.
 
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KINGS17 said:
In general, I agree globalism is only good for limited portions of the economy. If companies still want to get non-essential products made in China, no problem.

At this point, there has to be a careful determination on which products are required to be produced domestically. Greenies are going to scream because it will mean more smoke stack pollution, but it appears the pendulum swung too far in terms of let China make it cheaper in their country and pollute their atmosphere. American companies are going to have to come to grips with this and lower their expectations on profits accordingly.
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With the new trade agreement I predict Mexico should and will capitalize on this.
 
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for those that are math/science geeks (i'm sort of one as I work as a civil/structural engineer).. very interesting and informative.
take a look at the sigmoid graph. my first instinct when he said "slope" was hey, thats like taking the derivative.. :D
 
We knew the correlation existed, but Italy is now saying 99% of those who have died had an underlying medical condition.

99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

To summarize, more than 75% of those who have died had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Edit: A doctor I know says the deaths in the US are coming in younger than in Italy. Many unhealthy people here in their 50s and 60s due to obesity, diabetes, etc. Apparently 50% of all those tested positive in New Jersey are currently hospitalized.
 
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HeadInjury said:
We knew the correlation existed, but Italy is now saying 99% of those who have died had an underlying medical condition.

99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

To summarize, more than 75% of those who have died had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Edit: A doctor I know says the deaths in the US are coming in younger than in Italy. Many unhealthy people here in their 50s and 60s due to obesity, diabetes, etc. Apparently 50% of all those tested positive in New Jersey are currently hospitalized.
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I think this is a case, where unlike plus/minus does at times, the stats don't lie.

There should be careful consideration given to this kind of data as we combat the coronavirus.
 
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Deaths in the US beginning to spike. 41 so far today. That's 27% of all deaths today.

We will see if our data is similar to Italy's.

9,000 reported cases as of now, but it will explode in the coming days as many recently infected individuals begin experiencing symptoms.
 
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HeadInjury said:
9,000 reported cases as of now, but it will explode in the coming days as many recently infected individuals begin experiencing symptoms.
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Not sure the technical term for this, but if the mortality rate remains "in-line" with the following, it appears that most young & healthy U.S. residents who contract this are not, themselves, in imminent peril (so, they should absolutely feel free to continue to enjoy their semi-orgies on Miami Beach):

Here's what we know about the 100 coronavirus deaths in the US - CNN

As bizarre as this sounds, the one comforting element of this, so far, is that it shouldn't imperil my kids (ages 6 and 4), as it doesn't appear that any pre-teens have yet died from this <?> OTOH, as I'm sure many of you are, I'm worried for my folks - my dad is a senior citizen with high blood pressure and heart trouble. At least he now has a legitimate excuse not to leave his house, heh...

EDIT: PSA: if you're in California and have contracted this, you potentially now qualify for SDI: (assuming you have to be off work, of course): https://www.edd.ca.gov/about_edd/coronavirus-2019.htm
 
There are at least a few younger, healthy doctors who have died in Washington state. Same thing happened in China.
 
HeadInjury said:
We knew the correlation existed, but Italy is now saying 99% of those who have died had an underlying medical condition.

99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

To summarize, more than 75% of those who have died had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Edit: A doctor I know says the deaths in the US are coming in younger than in Italy. Many unhealthy people here in their 50s and 60s due to obesity, diabetes, etc. Apparently 50% of all those tested positive in New Jersey are currently hospitalized.
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Which can be reassuring, until we realize how high the rates of high blood pressure and diabetes are in the US. Let alone lung disease and other respiratory issues. I’d be curious, what ratio of ppl over 60 have some form of underlying disease in general. I mean I feel like at that age you probably have something so 99% really might not be saying much.
 
HeadInjury said:
30% of all cases in US are due to positive tests today.
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US numbers might ballon next couple days cause many places finally starting to get the test. So “today’s” cases could be a few days of backlog that were finally checked?
 
Bandit said:
It takes multiple days to get the test results? That sucks.
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My sister, who returned from a trip to France and the Czech Republic, had to wait to get tested upon her arrival at LAX, and the results didn't come until 3-4 days later. Thankfully she tested negative, but there's also the possibility of someone infected being non-symptomatic, so as a precaution, she was told to self quarantine anyhow.
 
Rumpelstiltskin said:
Not sure the technical term for this, but if the mortality rate remains "in-line" with the following, it appears that most young & healthy U.S. residents who contract this are not, themselves, in imminent peril (so, they should absolutely feel free to continue to enjoy their semi-orgies on Miami Beach):

Here's what we know about the 100 coronavirus deaths in the US - CNN

As bizarre as this sounds, the one comforting element of this, so far, is that it shouldn't imperil my kids (ages 6 and 4), as it doesn't appear that any pre-teens have yet died from this <?> OTOH, as I'm sure many of you are, I'm worried for my folks - my dad is a senior citizen with high blood pressure and heart trouble. At least he now has a legitimate excuse not to leave his house, heh...

EDIT: PSA: if you're in California and have contracted this, you potentially now qualify for SDI: (assuming you have to be off work, of course): https://www.edd.ca.gov/about_edd/coronavirus-2019.htm
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Yeah mainly worried about my kids, two 3 year olds and a 1 year old, but I am slightly worried. I consider myself as someone who's in great shape but has a family history of high blood pressure. Its concerning when doctors are dying .
 
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Speaking of kids, how has distance learning worked out for you guys? With Newsom hinting that kids will be staying home for the rest of the school year, looks like this is how it's going to be. Like always, kids with parental support will do well. I'm not so sure about the one without. SATs and such canceled and/or delayed as well. What a mess.
 
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BamBam1031 said:
Speaking of kids, how has distance learning worked out for you guys? With Newsom hinting that kids will be staying home for the rest of the school year, looks like this is how it's going to be. Like always, kids with parental support will do well. I'm not so sure about the one without. SATs and such canceled and/or delayed as well. What a mess.
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When my wife and I read this (bolded) on KABC's website last night, she started string-cursing - I couldn't help it; I burst out laughing. Who says this isn't bringing families together???

Our family is, overall, pleased with what our district did; they essentially converted the remainder of the year's curriculum (1st Grade, in this case) to a combination of online learning/testing and print/complete/scan & submit sheets. It's actually been relatively smooth so far. In fairness, though, we had several factors "in our favor" (mainly: (1) we both primarily work from home anyway; (2) we can actually help a 1st grader with the homework; and, (3) we already had the required technical resources) - like you allude, a struggling dual-latchkey family with high-schoolers/higher-end subject matter learners probably isn't coping with the situation nearly as well...:(
 
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Rumpelstiltskin said:
When my wife and I read this (bolded) on KABC's website last night, she started string-cursing - I couldn't help it; I burst out laughing. Who says this isn't bringing families together???

Our family is, overall, pleased with what our district did; they essentially converted the remainder of the year's curriculum (1st Grade, in this case) to a combination of online learning/testing and print/complete/scan & submit sheets. It's actually been relatively smooth so far. In fairness, though, we had several factors "in our favor" (mainly: (1) we both primarily work from home anyway; (2) we can actually help a 1st grader with the homework; and, (3) we already had the required technical resources) - like you allude, a struggling dual-latchkey family with high-schoolers/higher-end subject matter learners probably isn't coping with the situation nearly as well...:(
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1st grade math is the toughest!! :)

On the bright side this may be an experience your child will remember fondly for the rest of their life. Time with Mom and Dad being her teacher in 1st grade.
 
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Rumpelstiltskin said:
When my wife and I read this (bolded) on KABC's website last night, she started string-cursing - I couldn't help it; I burst out laughing. Who says this isn't bringing families together???

Our family is, overall, pleased with what our district did; they essentially converted the remainder of the year's curriculum (1st Grade, in this case) to a combination of online learning/testing and print/complete/scan & submit sheets. It's actually been relatively smooth so far. In fairness, though, we had several factors "in our favor" (mainly: (1) we both primarily work from home anyway; (2) we can actually help a 1st grader with the homework; and, (3) we already had the required technical resources) - like you allude, a struggling dual-latchkey family with high-schoolers/higher-end subject matter learners probably isn't coping with the situation nearly as well...:(
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I imagine divorce rates will spike shortly as well.
 
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