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They're not stupid poll options, they're realistic poll options. You think Callahan is going to take less than David Clarkson per year with shorter term? Get real.
How much would you give Callahan on his next contract?
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They're not stupid poll options, they're realistic poll options. You think Callahan is going to take less than David Clarkson per year with shorter term? Get real.
Well then if that's the case, there will be no loyalty on his part. He is chasing the almighty dollar, (which I can't blame him). I feel they should trade him and get the most they can, and then maybe think about bringing him back in the off season if the numbers work out.
haveandare
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Depends on what he wants. The Clarkson contract is a joke given out by a team that isn't new to giving out stupid contracts. If Callahan wants to leave the Rangers, and he wants to go to a team that is smarter/more competitive, he's not going to get Clarkson money. If he wants that, he'll go to a team that's desperate a short sighted.
The Gloaming
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Alex steen got extended for 3 yrs at $5.8 per. Cally is nowhere near the player steen is. Give him Dubi money IMO.
Crease
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Callahan can cite the Clarkson contract but its going to come down to supply-and-demand. How many quality wingers are going to be available on July 1? Gaborik, Vanek, Cammalleri, Michalek. Gionta, Iginla, Alfredsson, and Whitney are up there in age. SJ will probably extend Marleau.
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Barnaby
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Just throwing it out there: Jason Pominville.
The Wild dealt a 1st, 2nd, and two prospects for him… I'd say that's a pretty good comparison in terms of value if the team continues to struggle…
The Wild dealt a 1st, 2nd, and two prospects for him… I'd say that's a pretty good comparison in terms of value if the team continues to struggle…
SlingshotVv
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you're out to lunch. i think you missed about 3 offseasons, if you think what you posted makes any sense. Just take a moment to pretend you're Cally's agent. 5/5 would get Slats laughed at in the negotiation.
You're saying the poll options are stupid, but only offering him a $100,000 raise over what he currently makes? Him and his agent are going to take that as an insult and walk. Based on cap increase and what will be available this summer, he's easily getting at least 6 mil per on the open market.
As with my own recommendation of 5 x 5 max, it insinuates that Callahan is traded if that cannot be met. And you are right, it probably will not, and who would blame Callahan.
I am already prepared for Callahan leaving for money reasons, but I do not think that his quality playing days are over, not by a long shot.
Chimpradamus
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Callahan is quickly becoming a new version of Chris Drury. Give him a short contract and a small raise. 3-4 years @ $4.5-4.75m. If he doesn't take it, trade him. His style of play is wearing him down, his career will not be a long one and without his hard nosed style of play, he's not good enough. He doesn't have the hockey sense or skills to be a softer offensive guy.
Just because Clarkson was ridiculously overpaid, it doesn't mean Callahan has to be. If they want to throw huge money @ Callahan as well, let them.
Just because Clarkson was ridiculously overpaid, it doesn't mean Callahan has to be. If they want to throw huge money @ Callahan as well, let them.
EspenK
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Lots of good comments on this thread. From an outsider he seems to present a real dilemna. I tend to think he is not right for AV's type of team but if you trade one of your grittier players then you become a softer team. He is a leader as long as he stays healthy which seems to be a problem. He will probably want too much money/term.
Trade him at the deadline seems to me to be the best option but I think you won't get what you'd want for him due to all the reasons you don't want him.
As a Jacket fan, I'd love to see old Cally in Columbus but for all the reasons above, I think I'd pass on him.
It will be interesting to watch this play out.
Trade him at the deadline seems to me to be the best option but I think you won't get what you'd want for him due to all the reasons you don't want him.
As a Jacket fan, I'd love to see old Cally in Columbus but for all the reasons above, I think I'd pass on him.
It will be interesting to watch this play out.
OrbitalDynamics
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Love his heart,but he is breaking a lot.Too much for the long term contract some are clamoring for.
It may be blasphemy, but I would move him at the deadline if the Rangers are truly out of it.
Sather traded Leetch FFS,and traded Richter's rights as well. You think Callahan wouldn't be moved? Plos.
It may be blasphemy, but I would move him at the deadline if the Rangers are truly out of it.
Sather traded Leetch FFS,and traded Richter's rights as well. You think Callahan wouldn't be moved? Plos.
Pominville wasn't a rental. He had this season before becoming a group III. The player signed an extension. The contract can be viewed as team friendly. $28M for 5 years. $5.6M. Pominville has better numbers too. .78 points per game.
Even if the Rangers aren't truly out of it at the deadline,an unsigned Callahan should be traded.
The Rangers can't allow him to walk for nothing in the summer.
Paulie Walnutz
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See that's the thing, I think Teflon and company have no desire to do that, they'll ride it out then over pay him and Girardi after the season's over
I think the only way you trade Callahan is if the team is committing to a full blown fire-sale and rebuild.
Personally i think that's the right move, but I dont have any faith in sather's ability/desire to hit the reset button on this roster.
Thus, i fully expect him to be resigned long term.
Personally i think that's the right move, but I dont have any faith in sather's ability/desire to hit the reset button on this roster.
Thus, i fully expect him to be resigned long term.
The price isn't going down in July. Management has spoken with both players. No deals have been struck and no progress has been made.
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Does not mean they still will not just sit on them and hope they can resign them this summer.
While I agree they should move both of them and some others as well while the selling is good, why would/should we expect that?
Samuel Culper III
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I know the precedent is set with guys like Clarkson getting way overpaid, but honestly, guys like Cally shouldn't see a hair over 5M max.
Gardner McKay
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Not really. Alex Steen just got 5.8 million a year for his 36 game hot streak. How Blues management paid him on that is beyond me. He is just like Tomas Hertl (except Hertl can still develop), hot start with an unsustainable shooting % of over 20%. Steens career average is about 11%. He will come back down to earth and finish with 45-50 points next year, not 45-50 goals. Callahan will absolutely want between what Clarkson and Steen got. 5.4-5.6 except he will want longer term.
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Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
Pominville is undoubtedly better. Underrated penalty killer as well. Very good defensively, just not physical. Steen is also very good defensively. This year is a breakout, for sure, but he's been severely underrated for years. Cally is not worth as much as either. Steen is about .7 points per game since joining St. Louis while being a great all around and clutch player.
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