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How many points will it take to make the playoffs? (2016-17 edition)

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KINGS17 said:
IF the Kings make it to the playoffs all they have to do to get to the WCF is beat Minnesota, then Chicago. Easy, not worried at all.
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Ah, but this year the East is actually dangerous. No more push-over teams like the 2012 Devils or 2014 Rangers....
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Wonder how long we'll have to wait until someone posts a "Kings Draft Lottery Watch Party" discussion.

FYI, as of today, the Kings would be in possession of the 11th overall pick.

http://nhllotterysimulator.com/
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Hahaha,

First two times I tried it the Kings got the #2 pick.

So who wants to tell me about any big character players in the WHL that may have questionable speed or skill but play "Kings style hockey" that we can take #2.
 
Herby said:
Hahaha,

First two times I tried it the Kings got the #2 pick.

So who wants to tell me about any big character players in the WHL that may have questionable speed or skill but play "Kings style hockey" that we can take #2.
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Top 5 picks might all be centers. Of that group, this kid Rasmussen, who is 6'6, 215 lbs, has those key words in the scouting report that sound Kingish.
Central Scouting as of a couple weeks ago, had him ranked 6th among North American skaters.

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/player/michael-rasmussen/25948/

Large competitive centreman with skill and good feet. A gritty,naturally strong player with mobility who wins most board scrums, he is a dominant player in the front and below the goal line. A mobile skater who is difficult to contain or move. He wins puck battles and scores. Intriguing prospect with upside offensively, difficult to contain, and effective vision and passing skills. Owns the front of the power play. Owns the area behind the goal line. He might look for the pass over shooting, Protects the biscuit well. Has an upright skating stride but gets there and shows jam when he greets you.He Is an effective two way centre, and rarely loses puck battles along the boards. The combination of power and skill is at the high end of this draft class, even though you might hope he would show a bit more effort all sixty minutes. A raw talent who may end up being the best player out of the West.
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HansH said:
As I explain every year, I use a very simple projection - current points percentage multiplied by 82 games in the total season. Of course you can get deeper into the numbers, and pull things like "feelings" and "impression" and "momentum" in, but that's even more subjective. I'm just going with the quickest way to get a number, for people to have a rough idea. It's a projection, not a prediction, as I also say every year.
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Yes, I am aware of that, that's why I prefaced my comment with the fact it depends upon the projector you use. The method you use is one way, but not one I agree with as it doesn't account for the skill set of the competition, which for the remaining games is for me, the most important factor. it's the same as some NHL analysts who will write of a player say as the 40 game mark that he currently has 15 goals and is on pace for 30. For me, that is a method that works on paper and seldom in reality. Too many factors not accounted for. I get that using the 'X 2' method in this case is easy, and for some readers/fans is fine. I'm just not one of them.
So I did understand where you were coming from, I just don't agree with that method of calculation.
 
Herby said:
Hahaha,

First two times I tried it the Kings got the #2 pick.

So who wants to tell me about any big character players in the WHL that may have questionable speed or skill but play "Kings style hockey" that we can take #2.
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A LOT of the drafting reports are "Big, strong two-way center with limited offensive upside." We can't lose :laugh:
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
They already have a Handzus on the roster. A very expensive one.
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He has to be replaced some day. :)

If we anticipate the player the Kings take being at least 3 years away, Kopitar will be 32, maybe 33 years old when this any 2017 drafted player makes his NHL debut.

BTW, Dergachyov a big Russian center taken in the 3rd round of the 2015 draft by the Kings has 0 goals and 3 assists in 32 games for St. Petersburg SKA during the 2016-17 season.

He looks like he will fit right in with the Kings.
 
To be fair Dergachyov was getting hosed developmentally because he's playing the least possible minutes on a stacked team.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
To be fair Dergachyov was getting hosed developmentally because he's playing the least possible minutes on a stacked team.
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Needs to get his butt to NA and in a Reign uniform ASAP. I know he is 19 years old, but he can't waste away on the bench in Russia as a 20 year old.
 
I'm curious, how many people here think they will get in? right now 3 points out with 17 games left.
i have feeling they will be watching the playoff games from their couch this year.
 
KingsCourt said:
I'm curious, how many people here think they will get in? right now 3 points out with 17 games left.
i have feeling they will be watching the playoff games from their couch this year.
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They won't see a position in the top 8 again this year.
 
KingsCourt said:
I'm curious, how many people here think they will get in? right now 3 points out with 17 games left.
i have feeling they will be watching the playoff games from their couch this year.
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I still think they make it. They play St Louis again. So win that game and they have to make up 1 point over 16 other games. That's very doable. But they have to start winning.
 
tsanuri said:
I still think they make it. They play St Louis again. So win that game and they have to make up 1 point over 16 other games. That's very doable. But they have to start winning.
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Actually, it's really NOT very doable. Have you seen them play this year?

Everyone thinks this is 2012.
 
HansH said:
After the games of 3/5/17:

#2 wildcard projection remains the Blues, currently projecting to 88 points, making the Kings' target 89 points.

To achieve 89 points, the Kings need a record of 10-6-1, which translates to a .618 points percentage.
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Wild card spot is probably going to end up in the mid 90's. No way it stays below 90. Kings are gonna need help, which they won't get if all those posts are any indication of their luck this year.

Edit (updated after 3/9 games):
If the Kings win all the games against STL, CGY and go 50% on the other games........and NSH, STL, CGY go 50% on their non-Kings game, we get:
Kings:
90
5 games against STL, CGY

STL:
87
1 game against Kings

NSH:
89
0 games against Kings

CGY:
88
4 games against Kings
 
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[FIELDSET="Current Season Win Rate"]If the Kings win all the games against STL, CGY and win the rest of their games at current season rate........and NSH, STL, CGY win their non-Kings games at their current season rate, we get:
Kings:
91
5 games left with STL, CGY

STL:
88
1 game left with LA

NSH:
90

CGY:
90
4 games left with LA[/FIELDSET]

[FIELDSET="Last 10 Games Win Rate"]If the Kings win all the games against STL, CGY and win the rest of their games at their last 10 game rate........and NSH, STL, CGY win their non-Kings games at their last 10 games rate, we get:
Kings:
91
5 games left with STL, CGY

STL:
87
1 game left with LA

NSH:
93

CGY:
98
4 games left with LA[/FIELDSET]
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
my point was everyone thinks the team has a miracle up their sleeve and will just 'turn it on' and make a spectacular run.
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I don't think anyone THINKS that, but we sure HOPE that, no?

We've seen it before so it's not out of the realm of possibility no matter how unlikely. I mean, as pointed out, Calgary couldn't find their ass from a hole in the ground earlier in the year and they're running the table.
 
[FIELDSET="Current Season Win Rate"]If the Kings win all the games against STL, CGY and win the rest of their games at current season rate........and NSH, STL, CGY win their non-Kings games at their current season rate, we get:
Kings:
92
5 games left with STL, CGY

STL:
90
1 game left with LA

NSH:
91

CGY:
91
4 games left with LA
[/FIELDSET]

[FIELDSET="Last 10 Games Win Rate"]If the Kings win all the games against STL, CGY and win the rest of their games at their last 10 game rate........and NSH, STL, CGY win their non-Kings games at their last 10 games rate, we get:
Kings:
94
5 games left with STL, CGY

STL:
89
1 game left with LA

NSH:
93

CGY:
99
4 games left with LA
[/FIELDSET]
 
tsanuri said:
Picking up one point isn't a miracle. The miracle would be expecting them to catch Calgary. Which is possible but very unlikely.
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True, but Calgary ain't gunna finish their last games of the season going 15-0 ...... They'll cool off, "bigly"..... :nod:
 
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