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How many players from each team could make Team Canada?

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DearDiary said:
The only one that makes the team is Kane

On LHD there would be Hedman, EL and Josi ahead of those 2 D.
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I think Suter would make it over Muzzin and I think Kane would definitely make it. Parise has a real shot as all, as do Patches and Wheeler, simply due to being natural wingers. I think Parise would have tremendous chemistry with Crosby as well.
 
DCHabitant said:
No way Babcock takes Karlsson. He wants defensively safe defensemen--no Subbans or Karlssons.
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BS, Karlsson would definitely make Team Canada. What kind of coach doesn't pick a powerplay specialist D who was a PPG player from that position?

Subban isn't even close as good as Karlsson.
 
55 said:
I think Suter would make it over Muzzin and I think Kane would definitely make it. Parise has a real shot as all, as do Patches and Wheeler, simply due to being natural wingers. I think Parise would have tremendous chemistry with Crosby as well.
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That seems like a disadvantage to making Team Canada. If anything, they'd rather have Pavelski because he's a natural center, takes face-offs regularly, is right handed (which they need more than left handed forwards), and is used to playing both wings. He also has great chemistry with Thornton and Burns and good chemistry with Couture and Vlasic (if they'd still be on the team). (Many of Burns' assists are shots that are deflected into goal by Pavelski.) He was 6th in scoring last season with 78 points (tied with Gaudreau and Wheeler) and was 5th in goals with 38. He seems like a natural fit for the way Team Canada is built but I'm not sure if he'd make the team.

Kane would and maybe Suter. I think Suter would if you're only considering who is on TC now and not who else would be available to replace ppl now on TC. Same with Pavelski bc of being a right handed center who's good on the wing, though they still might prefer ROR or Perry.
 
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Seems like it'd be better to just say X people from Sweden could make TC while forgetting about the other teams, so thinking of 7 different 2 team mixes instead of 1 super team.
 
For sure would make it:
Ovechkin - best LW in the world
Kane - best RW in the world
Hedman - LD, which Canada is weaker on. Arguably the best LD in the world.
Pavelski - versatile, experienced, plays both wings and both special teams which gives him the nod over more one dimensional players. Obviously wouldn't play C for Canada.

Probably would make it:
Karlsson - RD, the best PMD in the world. Could easily QB the PP and replace Burns. Only possible caveat is Babcock preferred better two way guys in the past, as shown when he benched Subban at the Olympics.
Suter - LD, plus previous chemistry/familiarity with Weber, very experienced.
Kopitar - Canada is stacked at C but he's outstanding two way, would probably center the 3rd or 4th line and bump Getzlaf/Thornton
Malkin - previous chemistry with Crosby, experience on the wing.

Outside chance:
Josi - Exact same thing as Suter. Not as experienced however, which IMO is a pretty big deal for Babcock.
Ekman-Larsson - LD, but not as experienced or as good in his own end as the guys above.

Guys who have been mentioned in this thread who I don't think have a chance:
Backstrom - Canada is too stacked at C and he doesn't bring anything to the table that other guys don't already do.
Tarasenko/Wheeler/Pacioretty - all great natural wingers, but being a natural winger isn't as big of a deal as the RD/LD thing according to Hockey Canada.
McDonagh - not better than the LD listed above
Chara
Barkov
Every guy on team North America wouldn't make it due to experience, IMO. Crosby wasn't selected in 2006 for that exact reason.

Goalies are very arguable (Quick, Schneider, Lundqvist, Rask, etc) but I didn't address them because none would start ahead of Price so it doesn't matter anyways.
 
50 in 07 said:
For sure would make it:
Ovechkin - best LW in the world
Kane - best RW in the world
Hedman - LD, which Canada is weaker on. Arguably the best LD in the world.
Pavelski - versatile, experienced, plays both wings and both special teams which gives him the nod over more one dimensional players. Obviously wouldn't play C for Canada.

Probably would make it:
Karlsson - RD, the best PMD in the world. Could easily QB the PP and replace Burns. Only possible caveat is Babcock preferred better two way guys in the past, as shown when he benched Subban at the Olympics.
Suter - LD, plus previous chemistry/familiarity with Weber, very experienced.
Kopitar - Canada is stacked at C but he's outstanding two way, would probably center the 3rd or 4th line and bump Getzlaf/Thornton
Malkin - previous chemistry with Crosby, experience on the wing.

Outside chance:
Josi - Exact same thing as Suter. Not as experienced however, which IMO is a pretty big deal for Babcock.
Ekman-Larsson - LD, but not as experienced or as good in his own end as the guys above.

Guys who have been mentioned in this thread who I don't think have a chance:
Backstrom - Canada is too stacked at C and he doesn't bring anything to the table that other guys don't already do.
Tarasenko/Wheeler/Pacioretty - all great natural wingers, but being a natural winger isn't as big of a deal as the RD/LD thing according to Hockey Canada.
McDonagh - not better than the LD listed above
Chara
Barkov
Every guy on team North America wouldn't make it due to experience, IMO. Crosby wasn't selected in 2006 for that exact reason.

Goalies are very arguable (Quick, Schneider, Lundqvist, Rask, etc) but I didn't address them because none would start ahead of Price so it doesn't matter anyways.
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I love Subban (IMO he's the 3rd best defenceman in the league), but Karlsson is in a different league.
 
Russia: Ovechkin (Marchand)
Sweden: Karlsson (Burns), Hedman (J-Bo), OEL (Muzzin)
NA: Gaudreau (Perry)
USA: Kane (Giroux)

That's it. McDavid should but wouldn't, IMO.

Not sure who people think Kopitar is replacing.
 
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Replace Stamkos with Kane
Bouwmeester with Hedman
Couture with Ovechkin

That's about it. Maybe a new backup goalie. Quick?
 
We could just simply this and ask everyone to just post an All-World-Team

Question as asked

Locks imo:
OV, Malkin, Tarasenko
Karlsson, Hedman,
Kane, Pavelski
Kopitar
Rinne

Maybes:
Kuznetsov, Datsyuk (HC is very loyal)
Backstrom, OEL, Lundqvist
Parise, Pacioretty Quick
Rask
MacKinnon, Gaudreau, McDavid(HC has never liked real young guys)
 
Hedman, Suter, Kane and Kopitar. Team Canada places way too much emphasis on guys buying into their roles, as well as being defensively responsible, and way too little emphasis on natural positions to take guys like Ovechkin, Malkin, Karlsson, Tarasenko, etc. Same goes for the other American wingers (notably Wheeler, Paccioretty, probably Kessel).

It's not a question of making a super all star team. They construct their teams in a very particular way. I think the first two guys they'd take are Kopitar and Hedman, in that order.
 
Dropkick Murphy said:
well, Finland's waterboy is legendary Aki Berg and he should be automatic selection for waterboy role in Team Canada.
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Tho
 
50 in 07 said:
For sure would make it:
Ovechkin - best LW in the world I'd say probably instead of definite bc of TC's emphasis on defensive play. I'd replace Marchand with Ovi.

Kane - best RW in the world Replace Perry.

Hedman - LD, which Canada is weaker on. Arguably the best LD in the world. 100% agree. Replace Muzzin.

Pavelski - versatile, experienced, plays both wings and both special teams which gives him the nod over more one dimensional players. Obviously wouldn't play C for Canada. I'd say possibly and would replace Stamkos or ROR with Pavs. He's much more versatile than Stamkos and has more points than either Stamkos or ROR.

Probably would make it:
Karlsson - RD, the best PMD in the world. Could easily QB the PP and replace Burns. Only possible caveat is Babcock preferred better two way guys in the past, as shown when he benched Subban at the Olympics. Agree but I'd really hope TC would take him. Replace anyone on the right but Doughty. Probably Burns since he plays a similar role.

Suter - LD, plus previous chemistry/familiarity with Weber, very experienced. Agree that if they keep Weber, and they probably would, Suter would be likely. Replace JBo.

Kopitar - Canada is stacked at C but he's outstanding two way, would probably center the 3rd or 4th line and bump Getzlaf/Thornton I agree. I'd bump anyone but Crosby but TC would probably replace ROR or Thornton or possibly Getz. Have them bump Giroux as the extra forward.

Malkin - previous chemistry with Crosby, experience on the wing. Malkin's more possibly than probably IMO bc of who to replace. Tavares would be the logical player to replace bc he's left handed and plays an offensive role. I'm not sure they'd want to do that. Couture would make sense if he weren't in a shutdown role for TC. Maybe Tavares who could bump Duchene.
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Good list. I've used it and added the players they could replace.
 
Pretty much just creating a tournament all star team.

Ovechkin Crosby Bergeron
Kopitar Toews Kane
Tavares Getzlaf Stamkos
Duchene Pavelski Perry
McDavid

Suter Weber
Hedman Karlsson
Vlasic Doughty
Burns

Price
Lundquist
Quick (Based on reputation more than anything)

Ovechkin for Marchand
Kopitar for Couture
Kane for Giroux
Pavelski for ROR
McDavid for Thornton
Suter for Muzzin to play with Weber
Hedman and Karlson for J-Bo and Pieterangelo
Lundquist for Crawford
Quick for Holtby

There's 10 guys.
 
Hutton said:
Crosby/Bergeron/Toews/Price/Doughty/Tavares/Benn types 100/100 locks for TC:

Kopitar
Ovechkin
Hedman (LHD)
Tarasenko (natural winger)
Kane (natural winger)

that's it
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team canada dont give a **** about that
 
vBurmi said:
Hedman, Suter, Kane and Kopitar. Team Canada places way too much emphasis on guys buying into their roles, as well as being defensively responsible, and way too little emphasis on natural positions to take guys like Ovechkin, Malkin, Karlsson, Tarasenko, etc. Same goes for the other American wingers (notably Wheeler, Paccioretty, probably Kessel).

It's not a question of making a super all star team. They construct their teams in a very particular way. I think the first two guys they'd take are Kopitar and Hedman, in that order.
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This is the right answer, as far as I understand how the OP asked the question. For example, if they get Ovechkin, Marchand is not the first one out, because of his PK skills and chemistry with Bergeron and Crosby.
 
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