how many more points is it acceptable for Kallgren to blow?

[LeafalCrusader]

Concerns

-No secondary offense
-Little 5 on 5 goal scoring
-Banged up blueline that already wasn't good enough.
-Pathetic 3 on 3 play.
-Boneheaded giveaways

Fix this then worry about the 3rd stringer.

 

[Anthrax442]

People here blaming an AHL goalie who is still better than some backups we had recently instead of blaming players that get 10x + his money

 

[wingman75]

60.

Shite! I thought I was coming in hot with 6!!

He has given us probably more than expected. Made one bad play tonight, along with two or three good saves. OT winner was a pure snipe; perfectly placed. Would you like to see that save? Of course! C'est la vie when you are running with your #4 in the NHL.

Could be a lot worse.

 

[Smif]

he is 2-3-4

that's 2 wins in 9 games.

Tonight he lost it by himself

you could argue he should have had the 1st goal

but it's the 2nd one that's the big problem because all he has to do is not play it and they win.

but he did choose to play it because he's an idiot.

I don't want to hear "there are no other options" because that's not f***ing true that's a lie.

option #1 play Murray

Option #2 call up Woll and play him he just got cleared

Option #3 give Keith Pietrozulli (sp?) his 1st career start.

Keefe Literally never has to play Kallgren but he continues to do so.

he continues to choose to lose.

how about not playing Kallgren and Choosing to win?

Isn't that 8 points? So, almost .500 hockey out of your 750K third string goalie, you serious with this nonsense?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Isn't that 8 points? So, almost .500 hockey out of your 750K third string goalie, you serious with this nonsense?

2 wins in 9 games

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

People here blaming an AHL goalie who is still better than some backups we had recently instead of blaming players that get 10x + his money

Those players are all above a PPG they aren't the concern.

You want to look at a forward? You can certainly do that but look at the right ones.

Like Kerfoot and his 1 goal in 19 games he's completely useless.

Bunting hasn't been the same.

Malgin does nothing

Engvall has been awful although not against the NYI.

 

[Voodoo Child]

I noticed last year, despite his winning record (with a GAA above 3 and a .904) that there were several very troubling issues with Kallgren.

- His decision making is poor, see Bailey’s tying goal.
- He frequently ‘loses’ the puck.
- His glove hand is weak.

I had hoped despite it all that a hard summer of work he’d improve, but he is now 26 and here we are.

At least Samsonov has been excellent and Murray has been acceptable.

 

[tp71]

2 wins in 9 games

And hes given them a chance to win in 6 of the 9. Expecting all star stuff from a 3rd stringer is your first mistake.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

And hes given them a chance to win in 6 of the 9. Expecting all star stuff from a 3rd stringer is your first mistake.

I don't expect all star but you can't be the reason they lose and He has been, tonight included

 

[Leaf Fans]

8 points out of 9 games. He has to be better.

 

[Westlander]

It'd be nice if the Leafs scored more, though. 21 goals in his 8 starts and they've yet to score more than 3 in a game. Kallgren is putting up 3rd string numbers as expected but the Leafs can't find a way to provide more run support.

Tonight's game should not have been that close in the last few minutes of regulation.

Exactly, the Leafs supposedly played a great game but only scored twice. Then it should have been 4-1 and more or less beyond doubt.
Kallgren needs to be given more margin for error, he’s simply not good enough to be counted on to win 2-1 games.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Exactly, the Leafs supposedly played a great game but only scored twice. Then it should have been 4-1 and more or less beyond doubt.
Kallgren needs to be given more margin for error, he’s simply not good enough to be counted on to win 2-1 games.

Then he's simply not good enough

 

[Jozay]

I mean he's the third goalie

 

[ZEBROA]

I expect 4goals at least in every game when Kallgren plays. Thats what a good team does when they get a AHL goalie in net. They all step up. Cant expect a AHL goalie to win 2goal games for u.

4 OT losses that should/ could be wins with him and this offensive core.

 

[Enga Olly]

I think he may develop into a decent NHL back up but he needs more seasoning in the AHL. This a temporary thing, once the injury situation gets sorted out, he won't be an issue. Odd circumstances the past 2 years has put him in a position he's not ready for

 

[ZEBROA]

U can hate management for playing him, but it is stupid to hate the player. He aint better then this , just deal with it and then let it go. We need more from the rest of the team. If everybody else elivates 3% then we would win a lot more games with Kallgren in net. If Kallgren elivates 10% he would probably still loose if noby else step up. So it is a management or team problem, not a Kallgren problem.

 

[tp71]

I don't expect all star but you can't be the reason they lose and He has been, tonight included

He's a 3rd stringer. Expecting more is your fault.

 

[DraftSchmaft]

he's in net for most of those )T games too.

so yeah he's the issue



he is almost never "fine" that's the problem that's why he has 2 wins in 9 games.

I don't need a Vezina candidate but I do need a professional which he is supposed to be

"The" issue in every game folks lol.

Warned myself not to sign in today.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He's a 3rd stringer. Expecting more is your fault.

He's a 3rd stringer not a 6th.

3rd stringer are supposed to be almost NHL caliber

He's not even close.

I think he may develop into a decent NHL back up but he needs more seasoning in the AHL. This a temporary thing, once the injury situation gets sorted out, he won't be an issue. Odd circumstances the past 2 years has put him in a position he's not ready for

He's already 26 this is likely it.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I mean he's the third goalie

3rd goalies would have more than 2 wins in 9 games

 

[Mickey Marner]

This team has a broad range for what is acceptable, so he’ll probably start against Minnesota if Samsonov isn’t back yet.

 

[TMLAM34]

I noticed last year, despite his winning record (with a GAA above 3 and a .904) that there were several very troubling issues with Kallgren.

- His decision making is poor, see Bailey’s tying goal.
- He frequently ‘loses’ the puck.
- His glove hand is weak.

I had hoped despite it all that a hard summer of work he’d improve, but he is now 26 and here we are.

At least Samsonov has been excellent and Murray has been acceptable.

Murray has been more than just acceptable.

3rd goalies would have more than 2 wins in 9 games

Technically Woll would be our third string goaltender, Kallgren is our fourth.

 

[Anthrax442]

If you look around the league he's a #3
An average #3 but still a #3 who will give you a chance to win most nights

Those players are all above a PPG they aren't the concern.

You want to look at a forward? You can certainly do that but look at the right ones.

Like Kerfoot and his 1 goal in 19 games he's completely useless.

Bunting hasn't been the same.

Malgin does nothing

Engvall has been awful although not against the NYI.

PPG means shit all ii they play the way they are and lose game
But yeah, bottom 6 is totally useless

 

[Cams]

Those players are all above a PPG they aren't the concern.

You want to look at a forward? You can certainly do that but look at the right ones.

Like Kerfoot and his 1 goal in 19 games he's completely useless.

Bunting hasn't been the same.

Malgin does nothing

Engvall has been awful although not against the NYI.

So Nylander's 2 turnovers in OT last night "aren't a concern", or Marner's terrible pass in OT that led to the OT goal, "aren't a concern"?

re: Malgin - I'd say he isn't doing that bad for a 4th line guy....smaller guy who actually takes the body when given the chance.

Anyway....back to OT. How many games is it now that a terrible giveaway has led to the winning goal...... Kallgren didn't make those plays by the way.

You want to throw a kid like Woll in, who hasn't even played a game this year?

Also...in your first post you said Kallgren should have had the first goal.......really? It was going 4 ft wide and hit Kampf then went in....

Maybe you have to temper your expectations a bit.

 

[Niagara Bill]

We've tried that, we lose them to waiver claims and the ones that do get through (like Hutchinson) aren't any better than Kallgren

I'm saying if you want a good #3 he's going to get grabbed unless he's waiver exempt and good waiver exempt goaltenders aren't going to be a) easy to aquire or b) cheap to aquire

There valuable

Good points. What no one talks about are the other AHL players on this team who did nothing to help us win...Malgin, Sandin, Holl, etc