How is this remotely possible?

[ToneDog]

They did get a big goal. But it was waved off because of an infraction. Nick Paul also scored a big goal which wasn't waved off because of a clear infraction.
I do agree. Losing to Montreal? Wasn't because of the refereeing. But then I didn't create this thread worried about playing Montreal with regards to officiating. We both know we are going to play Tampa again this year and I stand by my belief that the referees were the difference in what was an extremely close match between two talented teams.

The Leafs didn't "shoot themselves in the foot" They were shot in the foot. By the refs.

What are the odds we win if game 7 goes int OT ??

 

[Drytoast]

Yep and it doesn't really stop there either. Their series winning goal in game 7 shouldn't have happened because Killorn pulled Kampf's stick out of his hand and sat on it just as Paul skated by before scoring, within a poke checks reach if he was able to skate 1 stride forward and poke check him, instead he was trying to grab his own stick back. Then we had a goal called back on a pick, sure you could argue it was a penalty but if that's the case then their winning goal should've been called back as well. And last but not least, when were on the powerplay late in game 7 Nylander was actually tripped right infront of the ref but we didn't get what would've been a legit 5 on 3. You just couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.

That was Muzzin, not Kampf but you are 100 percent correct. Paul actually skates past the infraction so the refs clearly had eyes on it.

What are the odds we win if game 7 goes int OT ??

With the way things were called last year? 20 percent.

 

[ToneDog]

Wes was one of them right lol

I believe so and he is supposedly the best of the best.

 

[Drytoast]

It definitely helps.
While on the subject of forgetting, have you forgotten to reply to my other posts? I’d love to know where I was wrong

I already answered that. But I guess since it was longer then 30 seconds ago...

 

[authentic]

I find it amazing that people are still crying about this stuff a year later. It might be time to move on.

Big difference between crying and discussing. You took part in the discussion and were called out on false information.

 

[Drytoast]

Big difference between crying and discussing. You took part in the discussion and were called out on false information.

You can't discuss on discussion boards I guess... What a wacky world these forums are!

 

[Burnie97]

They did get a big goal. But it was waved off because of an infraction. Nick Paul also scored a big goal which wasn't waved off because of a clear infraction.
I do agree. Losing to Montreal? Wasn't because of the refereeing. But then I didn't create this thread worried about playing Montreal with regards to officiating. We both know we are going to play Tampa again this year and I stand by my belief that the referees were the difference in what was an extremely close match between two talented teams.

The Leafs didn't "shoot themselves in the foot" They were shot in the foot. By the refs.

I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on that goal etc but Leafs scored 1 goal at home in a game 7. A big part of it is due to a lack of offense too.

They've done that many times in the playoffs.

Basically I'm saying... yes I agree the refs suck and can be better... but I'm also saying it's not just the refs... they are a factor but the Leafs need to pot a goal or 5 ... especially in a sudden death game.

 

[authentic]

That was Muzzin, not Kampf but you are 100 percent correct. Paul actually skates past the infraction so the refs clearly had eyes on it.


With the way things were called last year? 20 percent.

You're correct, just watched the replay again.

 

[Burnie97]

I believe so and he is supposedly the best of the best.

Lol yeah ... sure he is lol... and yes we're on the same page here.

Guy is a meathead.

 

[Drytoast]

I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on that goal etc but Leafs scored 1 goal at home in a game 7. A big part of it is due to a lack of offense too.

They've done that many times in the playoffs.

Basically I'm saying... yes I agree the refs suck and can be better... but I'm also saying it's not just the refs... they are a factor but the Leafs need to pot a goal or 5 ... especially in a sudden death game.

It's not like Tampa was on a heater. They scored 1 legit goal and both of us should have had goals called back. In a tight game with low scoring chances in game seven, when the refs only call it by the book in their end...that's gonna be the difference.

 

[authentic]

I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on that goal etc but Leafs scored 1 goal at home in a game 7. A big part of it is due to a lack of offense too.

They've done that many times in the playoffs.

Basically I'm saying... yes I agree the refs suck and can be better... but I'm also saying it's not just the refs... they are a factor but the Leafs need to pot a goal or 5 ... especially in a sudden death game.

Really they scored 2. If Tampa scored 2 then we scored 2. Both took penalties before the play but one was let go.

 

[ACC1224]

Big difference between crying and discussing. You took part in the discussion and were called out on false information.

Called out but no one has ever said what is false. Do you know what it was?

 

[Drytoast]

Lol yeah ... sure he is lol... and yes we're on the same page here.

Guy is a meathead.

You can also be mad at the refs of game 4. We were up 2-1 with a chance to go up 3-1 and the refs in that game were so blatantly lopsided, that Tampa were gifted almost a full period of power plays. 8-3. And 2 of the 3 powerplays we did get were late in the game after the game was well decided.

Those refs were so talented that the NHL decided to fire them for the remainder of the playoffs.

Incase you want to take names.

 

[Burnie97]

Really they scored 2. If Tampa scored 2 then we scored 2. Both took penalties before the play but one was let go.

Fair enough... and again yes obviously the refs are a factor but Leafs need to score more than 2 goals.

Sorry but why can't they score 5 or more for once in a game 7. Play loose and just f***ing fire another team right out of a cannon for once into the sun and we go to round 2.

I'm just as frustrated as you and any other Leaf fan.

Again... refs are a factor I agree but they still need to do more too. It's been many years of first round exits for different reasons.

 

[Drytoast]

Called out but no one has ever said what is false. Do you know what it was?

It's a good thing that these forums have this function where you can go back and re read posts...

 

[authentic]

Called out but no one has ever said what is false. Do you know what it was?

Not sure if serious. They infact had two phantom high sticks in a row to get the 5 on 3, the 2nd one being where Hedman lifted a stick into his own face.

 

[thewave]

You can also be mad at the refs of game 4. We were up 2-1 with a chance to go up 3-1 and the refs in that game were so blatantly lopsided, that Tampa were gifted almost a full period of power plays. 8-3. And 2 of the 3 powerplays we did get were late in the game after the game was well decided.

Those refs were so talented that the NHL decided to fire them for the remainder of the playoffs.

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Incase you want to take names.

Just dropping this.

I've actually complained to the NHL about officiating via phone etc. There are 100% corrupt officials and we have 100% been jobbed plenty of times. Yes the league is plagued with illegal betting and game fixing and if you think otherwise IDGAF.

The example you just referenced was one. For the record the Raptors almost got jobbed out of their Championship season as well, they were just that dominant.

 

[authentic]

Fair enough... and again yes obviously the refs are a factor but Leafs need to score more than 2 goals.

Sorry but why can't they score 5 or more for once in a game 7. Play loose and just f***ing fire another team right out of a cannon for once into the sun and we go to round 2.

I'm just as frustrated as you and any other Leaf fan.

Again... refs are a factor I agree but they still need to do more too. It's been many years of first round exits for different reasons.

Against Vasileskiy in game 7? Good luck with that. If they don't get those cheap highsticks we likely win that series and it stays 2-1 the rest of game 6. The fact that they needed a phantom 5 on 3 to tie it says it all.

 

[Drytoast]

Not sure if serious. They infact had two phantom high sticks in a row to get the 5 on 3, the 2nd one being where Hedman lifted a stick into his own face.

"It's Kerfoots own fault that Hedman lifted his stick into his own face to draw a power play..."

 

[ACC1224]

It's a good thing that these forums have this function where you can go back and re read posts...

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Don’t see it. I see where you were wrong about game 3 and were corrected.
You seem very confused by all this so we can just leave it.

 

[Blanche Blanche]

This team is in the bottom 5 for penalties drawn over the course of the last 5 years, while simultaneously being a top 5 team in the past 5 years, with a top 3 PP.

F*cK Bettman. His Hall of fame inclusion is like a Jewish hommage with a murial to Adolf.

I’ll never forget 5 back to back power plays vs Boston when we’re down a goal in game 6 do or die.

F*CK you Bettman.
Hope the jersey shit exposes your corrupt ass

 

[ACC1224]

Not sure if serious. They infact had two phantom high sticks in a row to get the 5 on 3, the 2nd one being where Hedman lifted a stick into his own face.

You realize the difference in fact and opinion?

 

[Drytoast]

Don’t see it. I see where you were wrong about game 3 and were corrected.
You seem very confused by all this so we can just leave it.

You said "Toronto won game 3 and had more power plays then Tampa". Which I would take to mean over all in the series because why on earth would you make a point about the refs being impartial referencing 1 game?

Neither are the case.

The refs are not impartial based on their actions and the Leafs didn't have more power plays than Tampa in the series.

Your only counter arguments have been "cope" and "crying"

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Doesn’t really seem that surprising nor that big a deal.

It's not surprising that we have one of the most skilled (and at one point fastest) team in the NHL and we draw so few penalties? Seeing that we've been bottom 10 every year in drawn penalties is quite surprising to me curious as to why it isn't for you?

 

[Burnie97]

Against Vasileskiy in game 7? Good luck with that. If they don't get those cheap highsticks we likely win that series and it stays 2-1 the rest of game 6. The fact that they needed a phantom 5 on 3 to tie it says it all.

Okay but you completely blame a series that goes 7 games on just reffing?

You're making an excuse already with Vasilesky. f*** that shit. Score on him. Hell... crash the crease and piss him off. Screen him and fire from everywhere.

He's an unreal goalie but may as well just say leafs are f***ed already before this year's playoffs start.

They have to find a way.

Again refs could be much better but it's not entirely on them... and I hate the reffing a lot of times.