How is this remotely possible?

[ACC1224]

You said "Toronto won game 3 and had more power plays then Tampa". Which I would take to mean over all in the series because why on earth would you make a point about the refs being impartial referencing 1 game?

Neither are the case.

The refs are not impartial based on their actions and the Leafs didn't have more power plays than Tampa in the series.

Your only counter arguments have been "cope" and "crying"

I was replying to your post about game 3 where you incorrectly said Tampa had more PPs.
This stuff isn’t that complicated. People post and people reply.

 

[ACC1224]

It's not surprising that we have one of the most skilled (and at one point fastest) team in the NHL and we draw so few penalties? Seeing that we've been bottom 10 every year in drawn penalties is quite surprising to me curious as to why it isn't for you?

They play a lot of low impact type games. Rarely see scrums after whistles, stuff like that.
Rarely do you think after a Leaf game that both teams don’t like each other.

 

[Drytoast]

I was replying to your post about game 3 where you incorrectly said Tampa had more PPs.
This stuff isn’t that complicated. People post and people reply

Oh I typed 3 but based on my powerplay differential it is clear that I am referring to game 4.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you didn't catch that since you've seen to have forgotten the events of the series.

You are still wrong about the refs not being biased in their actions. Or do you think an 8-3 differential is normal?

 

[Martin Skoula]

They play a lot of low impact type games. Rarely see scrums after whistles, stuff like that.
Rarely do you think after a Leaf game that both teams don’t like each other.

The majority of penalties are defensive plays that happen away from the net, hooking tripping holding and interference make up the majority of calls and the defense has free reign to commit as many of them as they want in front of their net. Colorado has been 1st in penalties drawn because their breakout is fast as hell and forces defensive penalties in high visibility areas like the and offensive blue line. It’s easier to “miss” calling a hold in a 5 man scrum in front of the net than it is in open ice with 1 F and 1 D involved.

Kadri, Tkachuk, Wilson and might draw the most single player penalties (even if a bigger proportion of them are offsetting than most players) but there’s 1 of those guys on a team if they even have one. Their impact is a drop in the bucket compared to a system-wide approach that forces penalties on the transition.

Even ignoring other teams, the fact that our penalties drawn has stayed pretty consistent as we’ve gotten considerably slower over the years should raise eyebrows.

 

[andora]

Oh I typed 3 but based on my powerplay differential it is clear that I am referring to game 4.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you didn't catch that since you've seen to have forgotten the events of the series.

You are still wrong about the refs not being biased in their actions. Or do you think an 8-3 differential is normal?

At the end of the day it can be. Tampa is a group of players that always engage physically no matter what and they know how to use their body position to put themselves in a siuation visually that can draw more calls.. it isnt rocket science

Toronto plays far far differently and when you are defending them you keep them to the outside by design and because toronto does not engage physically as often as they should they do not put themselves in the same position to draw calls

They play a game that looks like are above the greasy parts of the game.. and that doesnt always work

 

[ACC1224]

Oh I typed 3 but based on my powerplay differential it is clear that I am referring to game 4.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you didn't catch that since you've seen to have forgotten the events of the series.

You are still wrong about the refs not being biased in their actions. Or do you think an 8-3 differential is normal?

Have at it.

 

[Drytoast]

Okay but you completely blame a series that goes 7 games on just reffing?

You're making an excuse already with Vasilesky. f*** that shit. Score on him. Hell... crash the crease and piss him off. Screen him and fire from everywhere.

He's an unreal goalie but may as well just say leafs are f***ed already before this year's playoffs start.

They have to find a way.

Again refs could be much better but it's not entirely on them... and I hate the reffing a lot of times.

Refs gave them all of game 4. And helped them tie it up in game 6.

I can't say that the refs helped us out at all in that series.

 

[Nineteen67]

Are you sure about that one?

Where do you think our players score from half the time? JT scores a lot right around the net, Matthews scores a lot of goals pretty close, Marner and Nylander have a ton of goals cutting infront through traffic. Do you even watch Leafs games?

They tend handle the puck on the perimeter, and have for years. One of the biggest reason this core has had zero success.

 

[thewave]

F*cK Bettman. His Hall of fame inclusion is like a Jewish hommage with a murial to Adolf.

I’ll never forget 5 back to back power plays vs Boston when we’re down a goal in game 6 do or die.

F*CK you Bettman.
Hope the jersey shit exposes your corrupt ass

Totally called in on that 5 back to back game btw. Feel pretty similarly.

 

[Martin Skoula]

They tend handle the puck on the perimeter, and have for years. One of the biggest reason this core has had zero success.

Where would you prefer they handle the puck?

 

[Drytoast]

At the end of the day it can be. Tampa is a group of players that always engage physically no matter what and they know how to use their body position to put themselves in a siuation visually that can draw more calls.. it isnt rocket science

Toronto plays far far differently and when you are defending them you keep them to the outside by design and because toronto does not engage physically as often as they should they do not put themselves in the same position to draw calls

They play a game that looks like are above the greasy parts of the game.. and that doesnt always work

And yet I can see Tampa Bay infractions. They are just not being called. They are just ignored. There was a clear difference in infractions missed if we were in their end versus if they were in our end.

I can deep dive this for you, but the most costly was Nick Paul's 2-1 goal skating with the puck DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF AN INFRACTION and no call. You couldn't have framed the infraction to make it more obvious. And yet in that same game, Holl gets called for a pick/interference call that is a situation that happens at both ends at least a dozen times each game. It's just not called...unless we are in their end with a high danger chance of course.

 

[TOGuy14]

And yet Daryl Sutter is complaining that refs are biased for Toronto

I will never forget that playoff series against the Bruins. They were first or second in the league in PIMs, we were I think dead last with a bunch of young small players. All the analysis of the series was that we were going to get bullied and bruised by the big bad Bruins

I think Boston ended up with 8-10 more PP opportunities than us in the series somehow….

 

[Peace Frog]

It seems to me, that often when the Leafs DO play a physical game, or give some push back, the refs seem to crack down on them.

Case and point, Myers lays a high, heavy hit on JT and McCabe goes right over to stand up for his teammate. There’s hardly anything that happens, other than Myers throwing McCabe to the ice. Somehow that ends up being 17 minutes of penalties for McCabe.

Marchand does the same thing to stand up for his teammate (Bergeron), and puts a beating on the player, and only gets 2 minutes extra.

Those are the kind of things that make it very difficult for the Leafs to be successful in the playoffs.

Kadri lost his shit because of the ridiculous amount of crap the refs let the Bruins get away with and when he had enough and gave it back to them, he was promptly suspended.

The Leafs seem a bit damned if they do; damned if they don’t, imo. I just hope they decide to play through all the B.S and come out on top anyway.

 

[authentic]

Okay but you completely blame a series that goes 7 games on just reffing?

You're making an excuse already with Vasilesky. f*** that shit. Score on him. Hell... crash the crease and piss him off. Screen him and fire from everywhere.

He's an unreal goalie but may as well just say leafs are f***ed already before this year's playoffs start.

They have to find a way.

Again refs could be much better but it's not entirely on them... and I hate the reffing a lot of times.

You're not wrong that they have to find a way if they want to win, but at the same time let's not pretend we're getting away with crashing into Vasilevskiy. The point is that officiating actually decided that series, the Leafs were the better team.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Do you think they have any chance to win this year or will the refs once again take over?

They're gonna "find" all of the "evidence" they need to justify their victimhood.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Oh I typed 3 but based on my powerplay differential it is clear that I am referring to game 4.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you didn't catch that since you've seen to have forgotten the events of the series.

You are still wrong about the refs not being biased in their actions. Or do you think an 8-3 differential is normal?

Lol, after going on and on about game 3 , where acc1224 says you were wrong , yet you somehow kept doubling down.
Now you realize you were wrong and blaming that poster, for not realizing you didn’t mean that.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Rigged

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Sounds like were prepping the excuses early in case of a first round loss.

ouch.