Red Sox/MLB Hot Stove Part 2: Lockout Edition - 6 games lost, 156 to go

[EverettMike]

I know Clemens gets a lot of hell around here because of how he left and how he acted with the media, but he's a good dude. Tons of work with the Jimmy Fund, and has a foundation for underprivileged kids now.

He was a HoFer before doing steroids, just like Bonds.

He deserves to be in, and I hope one of the committees does the right thing.

BBWAA are dinosaurs and should be ashamed of themselves.

Nice vote for Jeff 32.7% Kent there CHB, f***ing clown.

Counterpoint: f*** Roger Clemens. An all-time piece of shit.

 

[Alicat]

one thousand percent.

Like if a guy didn't get busted for PED's who the **** are you to assume/speculate and keep them off your ballot?

Exactly! Prior to 2004 name me one guy who wasn't taking all those ridiculous supplements from GNC that were loaded with now banned substances. Didn't McGuire have an entire container of andro out in his locker for everyone to see back in 2003?

 

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[KrejciMVP]

I know Clemens gets a lot of hell around here because of how he left and how he acted with the media, but he's a good dude. Tons of work with the Jimmy Fund, and has a foundation for underprivileged kids now.

He was a HoFer before doing steroids, just like Bonds.

He deserves to be in, and I hope one of the committees does the right thing.

BBWAA are dinosaurs and should be ashamed of themselves.

Nice vote for Jeff 32.7% Kent there CHB, f***ing clown.

Clemens is the GOAT pitcher if everyone gets in. Growing up, Clemens, Mo Vaughn, Nomar, Pedro were all icons in their primes before the Ortiz Manny era

 

[Alicat]

Koji is happy

 

[EverettMike]

Ultimately sports is about rooting for and against teams and players. I love David Ortiz like he's family (the family I actually like), and I couldn't be happier he's in. Whether he deserves it versus other guys doesn't even matter to me, I love him too much to care.

 

[Alicat]

Truth

 

[DKH]

Hopefully the committee will do the right thing in December and put Bonds and Clemens in or their 2023 class is going to be Rolen and Beltran

To me Beltran is not a HOF

he’s in the litter with Andrew Jones, Kenny Lofton, Jim Edmunds, Bernie Williams

all 5 I have to go to Basebsll Reference and hee and haw and depending on what day I think they are or aren’t

but I don’t need that for Griffey or Mike Trout or Rickey Henderson

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Exactly! Prior to 2004 name me one guy who wasn't taking all those ridiculous supplements from GNC that were loaded with now banned substances. Didn't McGuire have an entire container of andro out in his locker for everyone to see back in 2003?

98 during the home run chase, but yes.

My beef with the "they juiced" crowd is so did countless guys in the hall in the 70s and 80s. And are we gonna knock guys in the 50s for popping amphetamines?

 

[DKH]

The guy who scared the crap out of me every time he got up against the Red Sox was Gary Sheffield

 

[KrejciMVP]

The guy who scared the crap out of me every time he got up against the Red Sox was Gary Sheffield

and Matsui

 

[DKH]

Guys I would vote for if on Vet committee
McGriff
Garvey
Lefty ODoull

 

[KrejciMVP]

98 during the home run chase, but yes.

My beef with the "they juiced" crowd is so did countless guys in the hall in the 70s and 80s. And are we gonna knock guys in the 50s for popping amphetamines?

before that I remember Brady Anderson having 1 big year

 

[DKH]

and Matsui

Yes good call

Clutch as all heck

 

[JRull86]

The guy who scared the crap out of me every time he got up against the Red Sox was Gary Sheffield

I've never understood why Sheffield doesn't get considered more for the HoF. Guy was lethal. Scared the hell out of me when he was w the Yankees.

Three top 3 mvp finishes, 500+ HR, .292/.392 BA/OBP, more BB than K.

Lethal.

 

[TP]

Good for Papi!!!

As much as I hate them both, Clemens and Bonds should have been voted in. They were great before they started juicing,

 

[McGarnagle]

Biggio I’m with you but he was a fantastic athlete who started as a catcher went to center and ended at second

I agree with you but I vote him in

why is Rob Parker on HOF show ?

Lauren Shehadi is in my HOF

10000% yes

<3

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[GlenFeatherstone]

Certain moments in life you never forget. Good and bad. Sportswise Vinatieri through the uprights against the Rams. And 04 when they finally broke the curse. Ortiz was the leader, the face of that Red Sox run for over a decade. In the biggest moments with the game on the line, we as Boston sports fans have witnessed two of the best, if not the two single best in Brady and Ortiz do it when the stage was the biggest. There are not enough thank yous I could give Papi for the joy he has brought to my and every fan who breaths and lives for the Sox lives. Well deserved first ballot Hall of famer.

 

[LSCII]

You might think he's an a**hole, but there are lots of a**holes in the Hall of Fame.

Curt Schilling should be in the Hall of Fame.

Nah. He was a good not great player. It’s not the hall of good either. It should be for the best of the best. If you have to make a case for the guy, it means he doesn’t belong.

 

[LSCII]

Agreed as well. I liked Roy Halladay...Mike Mussina.....if those guys are in, Curt has to be IMO

That’s the issue. Neither of those guys belong in the hall of fame. It’s been watered down to a ridiculous level.

 

[LSCII]

Counterpoint: f*** Roger Clemens. An all-time piece of shit.

Perfect and accurate description.

 

[Alicat]

I've never understood why Sheffield doesn't get considered more for the HoF. Guy was lethal. Scared the hell out of me when he was w the Yankees.

Three top 3 mvp finishes, 500+ HR, .292/.392 BA/OBP, more BB than K.

Lethal.

Sheff was a killer both at the plate and in the field especially against the Sox. He always found a way to burn us too.

 

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