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It was a low budget Canadian made film, obviously it wasn't going to get heavy theater release. If that is a reason you wouldn't watch a movie, then idk


Anyway, most people seem to like it so it's box office stats shouldn't really impact someones decision to watch it.
 
Kiind of Thriller/Horror but whatever, I watched recently:

Mr. Brooks 8/10

Time Lapse: 7.5/10
 
It was a low budget Canadian made film, obviously it wasn't going to get heavy theater release. If that is a reason you wouldn't watch a movie, then idk

If a film is good, it'll usually be picked up and distributed. Black Christmas was a low-budget Canadian film that received decent distribution. The Blair Witch Project was a nothing-budget film from nowhere that must've also really impressed a distributor, because it was distributed widely. If no one wants to invest money to distribute a film and it mostly goes "straight to video," it's not a great sign. I might've taken that as a warning and done a little more research (checking review aggregators and watching the trailer), rather than just blindly diving in. That's what I was saying.

Anyway, most people seem to like it so it's box office stats shouldn't really impact someones decision to watch it.

It has a 48% user score at Rotten Tomatoes, so I wouldn't say that most people like it. Most who have mentioned it here seem to like it, but that's why I wrote my review, to contrast the hype and warn the half of people who won't like it.
 
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WatchMojo did their top 10 horror franchises since 2000

10. Hatchet
9. V/H/S (First 2 were really good with some weak segments. 3rd one was so bad)
8. [REC] (the first one was one of the best horror movies ever. But I can see it being this low due to the dropoff of the rest)
7. Final Destination (hilarious this is this low. Especially behind The Purge? What??)
6. The Purge (blah)
5. 28 Days/Weeks Later (Needs a 3rd movie.)
4. Paranormal Activity (I don't like these movies, but how is this as far back as 4??)
3. Insidious (I really disagree with this. 2 good movies and now they are just pushing jump scares)
2. Saw (I'd put it 1 because I am a HUGE fan of the continuity through 7 movies even though the last few had some iffy moments/traps)
1. The Conjuring (I think both were pretty overrated but I guess people really love them. Annabelle was absolute garbage though)

HMs:
Sinister (how? Sinister 1 was probably my favorite horror movie of the last few years, but the 2nd one shouldn't have even been made. Fantastic first movie, not a good franchise)
The Grudge (first onewas horrifying to me as a kid but idk)


Now I liked the Hatchet movies but honestly there are a few franchises that should have made the list over it. Would have liked to have seen HMs for Grave Encounters and Dead Snow since 28 days, Sinister and The Conjuring made the list with only 2 movies. No mention of Hostel or The Human Centipede (lol)

I love the Saw series as well. I got my college roommates to watch them all, and they enjoyed it.

Did you hear about a new Saw coming out, Saw: Legacy?
 
I saw The Conjuring 2 and The Babadook these last two nights.

I'd forgotten how good the original 'Conjuring' was. Even if I'd remembered, I would've been skeptical because sequels rarely live up to the originals, but this one is practically as good as the original, IMO, and reminded me why I liked it. It's good enough that it could stand as its own film, which you can't say about many sequels. The setting switch to London keeps it from being too much like the original, but it still feels really tied to it by the 70s era. The sentimentality in the story is also very welcome in the genre. Though maybe partly because it's set 40 years ago, it feels a bit like a throwback to horror films from that era. Rarely do I watch a sequel and then hope that they make another, but I would welcome a 'Conjuring 3', since this is a solid franchise.

The Babadook (which could also be called "How Not to Parent") surprised me, as well. It's quite original as horror films go. It looks and feels like an art house film, as if it could've been purely a drama about a single mother raising a troubled boy (Oscar bait sort of stuff), except that it gets progressively creepier as a third character, the Babadook, comes between them. The performances from the mother and boy are excellent, much better than you normally see in horror films. Also, all of the effects are real. In other words, whenever you see the Babadook, it's actually in the shot (often using stop motion technique), not added in post-production. Finally, this also a horror film without a single cheap scare in it (i.e. no "jump scares"). It's just genuinely scary without resorting to tricks. In fact, I think that there was room to make it even scarier (specifically, by using the Babadook's voice more often, especially his "baba dook doook dooooooooook," which is one of the creepiest things that I've ever heard), but the director (in her directorial debut, even) really shows enormous restraint and doesn't overdo it. Anyways, the critical acclaim that this film gets is for good reason. If you like really intelligent horror films, you should check this out.

BTW, there's a really interesting theory (that's so perfect that it has to be true) about what the Babadook represents that can really increase your appreciation for the film and how intelligent it is:
The theory is that the Babadook represents grief. The mother unwittingly welcomes the Babadook into her house and denies its existence because she denies herself natural grief over losing her husband by refusing to talk about the accident or him. Only once she acknowledges that the Babadook--and her grief--exists does it stop casting a shadow over and tormenting them. It never fully goes away, as grief never does, but it can be managed by compartmentalizing it and not being afraid to "feed" it every now and then.
 
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I just couldn't get into the Babadook, it was alright. That small child was far too annoying and took away from the film, imo.

Anyone pumped for Alien Covenant? I'm stoked.

 
I totally agree with you on the babadook I disliked the mom and child so much I was hoping the babadook woukd take them out at the end of the film.

I was definitely pro Babadook.
 
Watched dont breathe and green room to finish all the horror films worth watching

Both were very good. Not sure if Green Room is horror

1. The Wailing
2. Green Room
3. The Witch
 
I saw The Conjuring 2 and The Babadook these last two nights.

I'd forgotten how good the original 'Conjuring' was. Even if I'd remembered, I would've been skeptical because sequels rarely live up to the originals, but this one is practically as good as the original, IMO, and reminded me why I liked it. It's good enough that it could stand as its own film, which you can't say about many sequels. The setting switch to London keeps it from being too much like the original, but it still feels really tied to it by the 70s era. The sentimentality in the story is also very welcome in the genre. Though maybe partly because it's set 40 years ago, it feels a bit like a throwback to horror films from that era. Rarely do I watch a sequel and then hope that they make another, but I would welcome a 'Conjuring 3', since this is a solid franchise.

The Babadook (which could also be called "How Not to Parent") surprised me, as well. It's quite original as horror films go. It looks and feels like an art house film, as if it could've been purely a drama about a single mother raising a troubled boy (Oscar bait sort of stuff), except that it gets progressively creepier as a third character, the Babadook, comes between them. The performances from the mother and boy are excellent, much better than you normally see in horror films. Also, all of the effects are real. In other words, whenever you see the Babadook, it's actually in the shot (often using stop motion technique), not added in post-production. Finally, this also a horror film without a single cheap scare in it (i.e. no "jump scares"). It's just genuinely scary without resorting to tricks. In fact, I think that there was room to make it even scarier (specifically, by using the Babadook's voice more often, especially his "baba dook doook dooooooooook," which is one of the creepiest things that I've ever heard), but the director (in her directorial debut, even) really shows enormous restraint and doesn't overdo it. Anyways, the critical acclaim that this film gets is for good reason. If you like really intelligent horror films, you should check this out.

BTW, there's a really interesting theory (that's so perfect that it has to be true) about what the Babadook represents that can really increase your appreciation for the film and how intelligent it is:[spoil]The theory is that the Babadook represents grief. The mother unwittingly welcomes the Babadook into her house and denies its existence because she denies herself natural grief over losing her husband by refusing to talk about the accident or him. Only once she acknowledges that the Babadook--and her grief--exists does it stop casting a shadow over and tormenting them. It never fully goes away, as grief never does, but it can be managed by compartmentalizing it and not being afraid to "feed" it every now and then.[/spoil]

I don't really think its a theory, I think thats the way the movie is intended to be interrupted.
 
I don't really think its a theory, I think thats the way the movie is intended to be interrupted.

I think so, too. It's just that I haven't actually read the writer/director say that that's the case, so, until it's proven like that, it's technically still a theory. As I said, though, it makes sense on so many levels that it's almostly certainly true.
 
I've just caught myself up on the Child's Play/Chucky franchise. I saw the first three films way back in 88-91 and rewatched them as recently as a few years ago, but I hadn't ever seen the ones that followed, because of their bad reputations.

Bride of Chucky and Seed of Chucky are pretty much as I expected. They're not good. They abandon the horror of the first three films and are just campy and silly. They're watchable and even funny in places--so, if you have really low expectations and just roll with the camp, they can be sort of enjoyable--but horror films they are certainly not.

Last night, though, I got fully caught up by watching 2013's Curse of Chucky and I must say that I was very pleasantly surprised. Unlike the previous two, it's not a comedy in any way. Instead, it attempts to return to the horror roots of the franchise. It doesn't really end up being "scary" (which is maybe hard to do now, since there's no mystery left with what the doll looks like or is capable of), but it does have some suspense (having the lead female in a wheelchair was a great choice in that regard) and a pretty decent story. Speaking of the latter, it ends up having quite a bit of tie-in with the first film in the series by building up some of the backstory and even briefly references some of the others, tying them all together. Overall, the film is a bit of a love letter to longtime fans of the franchise. If you're one of those and haven't seen Curse of Chucky, you should. If you do, make sure that you watch the post-credits scene, which has a neat bit of nostalgia and appears to lead into the upcoming sequel.

Speaking of which, according to Wikipedia, a sequel named Cult of Chucky is being filmed right now for release later this year. I must say that I'm kind of looking forward to it now.
 
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Been watching a bunch of classic old horror lately. In the last week I've watched:

- "The Burning"(1981)
- "Maniac" (1980)
- "The Kiss Of The Vampire"(1963)
- "Let's Scare Jessica To Death"(1971)
- "Don't Go In The House" (1979)
 
I watched It Follows last night. I thought that the premise was pretty original and the atmosphere, direction and soundtrack were all very good.

The inspiration from Halloween is obvious on many levels. In many ways, like the composition, camerawork and suspense, that inspiration pays off and is really effective. That it involves teens running from house to house in a suburban neighborhood adds to the comparison. Where the homage goes too far, though, IMO, is in the prevalence of 70s-era elements. The teens seem to watch nothing but black and white sci-fi movies on 70s-era TVs, just like the kids in Halloween, and drive around in 70s-era cars. The reason why that's odd is that it's clearly set in modern times. In fact, while they're watching these black and white movies on 70s TVs, one of the girls reads an ebook on a digital reader, which is a jarring juxtaposition. They should've just set the film in the 70s or not pursued such literal homage to Halloween. That was a mistake, IMO, but not a huge criticism that really hurts the film.

Unfortunately, what really does hurt the film are the huge plot holes and predictability. Five minutes in, as soon as the problem of the "follower" is presented, the solution to getting rid of it is obvious, but, somehow, it takes 80 more minutes for any of the characters to think of it. That takes most of the suspense and mystery of it and undermines the ending. The film loses its impact when she knows and we, the viewers, know how she can get rid of it, and most of us have probably already thought of the best way to do it, but she drags her feet on actually doing it just to stretch the film out to 90 minutes. On top of that, with the initial guy still in danger, you would think that he'd be more keen on helping her, rather just saying "see ya" and leaving his fate in her hands. I know that characters being dumb is a staple of horror films, but it's so bad here that it's not even believable that anyone could be this dumb... and it's all the worse because this is meant to be a relatively "smart" horror film.

The film has a great horror concept and a really classic horror film might've been made from it, but it just wasn't written well. They shouldn't have tried to make it socially meaningful by making it pass from character to character like they did, since that's what opened up the aforementioned plot holes and predictability that spoiled the film. A different mechanism or even a little bit of mystery (like, maybe, "he passed it to me and didn't say how, so I don't know how to get rid of it") probably would've produced a much more effective film.
 

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