Speculation: Hoglander Mega Thread: Caps, Pens and CBJ interested

[UrbanImpact]

Canuck fan here. Honest low down on Hoglander.

1. Very undisciplined when he doesnt have the puck. Defensive Awareness is low and can take dumb penalties
2. 3 different coaches have soured on him...Travis Green, Bruce B, Tochett
3. Can be a wizard with the puck, highly gifted offensively
4. Buzz saw on the forecheck and relentless motor. Gets under the opponent skin alot
5. No off ice issues, highly motivated player. Came into camp in the best shape out of anyone on the team.
6. Given top 6/9 minutes with pp1/pp2 time I think he would easily be a 20/20 player with a chance to very much boom.

IMO he is a waaaay better player than someone like Kuzmenko who found himself in the similar Tochett doghouse.

Cost controlled, young, and can pot a team 20-25 goals. He will be in demand.

Still one of the dirtiest Michigan Ive seen due to the fact it was in constant motion.

Hoglander has magic hands but he needs to play in a system that will give him freedom.

 

[Alex K]

Where will Hoglander land? The Red Wings or Flyers, thus ending the “when pigs fly” concern.

The Flyers need young centers, not wingers

 

[UrbanImpact]

For those that are interested:

The Canucks need:

1. Top 4 Dman to upgrade on Soucy or Myers
2. 3rd line C upgrade on Bleuger/Suter
3. Assets they can use to help them obtain the above

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Hoglander + one of Wallinder/Lekkerimaki for Rasmus Andersson

 

[VeteranPresence]

Hoglander to the Pens makes all kinds of sense, but he wouldn't be the only asset that goes back in a Pettersson trade.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Vincent Iorio is an interesting name out of the caps.

Local BC kid. I dont think he would be a current upgrade on Myers, Desharnais or Branstrom though but can potentially be a nice prospect to add to the cupboard.

Can Caps fan elaborate more on him and maybe give a scouting report.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

How are “multiple” teams interested? He is not a good player. Maybe they are in exchange for a 3rd round pick.

 

[SEALBound]

Hoglander to the Pens makes all kinds of sense, but he wouldn't be the only asset that goes back in a Pettersson trade.

Pettersson @ 50% + choice of Lizotte or Acciari or DOC
for
Hoglander + 2025 1st

 

[Michoulicious]

Multiple teams extremely interested, here is the clip.

Sure sounds like it’s happening in the next week or sooner.

Nobody cares about Hoglander, I don't get the hype. Small, expensive.

Nick Robertson is there for free.

 

[Nucker42]

Pettersson @ 50% + choice of Lizotte or Acciari or DOC
for
Hoglander + 2025 1st

Disgusting no

How are “multiple” teams interested? He is not a good player. Maybe they are in exchange for a 3rd round pick.

24 goals last year, all at even strength. Not good though. Excellent insight.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Where will Hoglander land? The Red Wings or Flyers, thus ending the “when pigs fly” concern.

I'd pay to see Torts coach Hoglander lol.

 

[M2Beezy]

Pettersson for Hoglander+ seems like a very logical trade.

Yep.

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Forbort, Brisebois, 2026 6th

To Vancouver: Pettersson, 2025 5th

 

[Hunter368]

I always liked him, like to see the Jets look at him, balance out the cap hits, etc if its a buy low situation.

 

[sansabri]

Nobody cares about Hoglander, I don't get the hype. Small, expensive.

Nick Robertson is there for free.

when did Nick Robertson put up 20+ goals

 

[2028 7th]

Canuck fan here. Honest low down on Hoglander.

1. Very undisciplined when he doesnt have the puck. Defensive Awareness is low and can take dumb penalties
2. 3 different coaches have soured on him...Travis Green, Bruce B, Tochett
3. Can be a wizard with the puck, highly gifted offensively
4. Buzz saw on the forecheck and relentless motor. Gets under the opponent skin alot
5. No off ice issues, highly motivated player. Came into camp in the best shape out of anyone on the team.
6. Given top 6/9 minutes with pp1/pp2 time I think he would easily be a 20/20 player with a chance to very much boom.

IMO he is a waaaay better player than someone like Kuzmenko who found himself in the similar Tochett doghouse.

Cost controlled, young, and can pot a team 20-25 goals. He will be in demand.

Still one of the dirtiest Michigan Ive seen due to the fact it was in constant motion.

Hoglander has magic hands but he needs to play in a system that will give him freedom.

Thanks for the detailed rundown. This profile and the Penguins interest really do make the Pettersson-centric proposals quite logical.

 

[SEALBound]

Yep.

To Pittsburgh: Hoglander, Forbort, Brisebois, 2026 6th

To Vancouver: Pettersson, 2025 5th

Lol, the Penguins aren't taking on Forbort and Brisebois without getting much more in return. Unless you want to change Brisebois to Pettersson or Mynio and up the 6th to a 2nd.

 

[Nucker42]

Lol, the Penguins aren't taking on Forbort and Brisebois without getting much more in return. Unless you want to change Brisebois to Pettersson or Mynio and up the 6th to a 2nd.

Price for Zadorov was 3rd and 5th. Pettersson would have very similar value, or slightly lower.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Wonder if Van soured on Hoglander after the King's game.

 

[Canucks LB]

The problem is that those types of players are a dime a dozen. Lots of middle six guys fall through the cracks after their ELCs, because that ~$3m cap hit is excessive for similar production you can get from a waiver claim or another team's cap dump.

If I'm a rebuilding team, why am I paying even minimal assets for a $9m commitment over the next three years? When I can just as easily scoop a player in the same manner that San Jose acquired Jake Walman.

The GM that 'buys low' on Hoglander lacks vision IMO.

How many dime a dozen 24 goal scorer a season ago at his age available?

 

[GOilers88]

Nobody cares about Hoglander, I don't get the hype. Small, expensive.

Nick Robertson is there for free.

Nobody cares about Nick Robertson. There is no hype. Small, ineffective.

Hoglander is there.

 

[Canucks LB]

Nobody cares about Hoglander, I don't get the hype. Small, expensive.

Nick Robertson is there for free.

No offense, but hoglander scored 24 goals last year with no power play time

 

[Empoleon8771]

I threw out Nieto and a 3rd for Hoglander, but what I think could be more appealing for Vancouver is Puljujarvi and a 3rd for Hoglander. Puljujarvi has been really effective when he has played for the Penguins, but Sullivan doesn't seem to like him for whatever reason. Swap of one guy a coach doesn't like for another, with the Penguins throwing on the 3rd to account for Hoglander having more value.

Price for Zadorov was 3rd and 5th. Pettersson would have very similar value, or slightly lower.

Pettersson is wildly better than Zadorov.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I threw out Nieto and a 3rd for Hoglander, but what I think could be more appealing for Vancouver is Puljujarvi and a 3rd for Hoglander. Puljujarvi has been really effective when he has played for the Penguins, but Sullivan doesn't seem to like him for whatever reason. Swap of one guy a coach doesn't like for another, with the Penguins throwing on the 3rd to account for Hoglander having more value.

I don’t see them wanting another winger at all, it’s not a need even with Hoglander traded.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

How many dime a dozen 24 goal scorer a season ago at his age available?

Not sure but he's on pace for a whopping 6 goals this season, there sure are a lot of those dime a dozen players available.

Petr Prucha also scored 30 goals as a 22 year old, he didn't last long in the league.

If Hoglander was so special, the Nucks wouldn't be looking to trade him. Give them credit for noticing it was a fluke last year and to try to sell high on him while they can.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Pettersson is wildly better than Zadorov.

Plus, the Penguins can retain on Pettersson, whereas the Flames didn't want to do so with Zadorov.