OT: HFPens Community Lounge: Or Ogrezilla and LOGiK's Nerd Thread ;)

[LOGiK]

Another day another person trying to break in lmao. Saw a week ago bike tire tracks going to the basement window. This will never end.

you live on the edge!

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Another day another person trying to break in lmao. Saw a week ago bike tire tracks going to the basement window. This will never end.

What are you hiding in your home that keeps these wankers trying to break in regularly?

I have noticed a lot of homes in Vancouver and other parts of BC that have bars put up outside of their windows and some even on their main floor windows and I kind of get why. Apparently in Toronto or GTA, there has been a lot of break-ins lately as well.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Sometimes Apple News has some interesting stories and I’m like ok wow humanity is f***ed up…

but then you read something like this and you’re like wow, humanity is really f***ed up.

Woman pleads guilty in Inuit identity fraud case, charges dropped against daughters

A Toronto woman pleaded guilty Friday in an Inuit identity fraud case as charges against her twin daughters were dropped.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

Charges dropped against the daughters is bs though, those twins knew the game and played it and had opportunities to fess up.

 

[66-30-33]

Got nothing nice inside on purpose, live near topaz park and normally lots of tents up now. House looks not desirable on purpose too.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I haven’t built a gaming PC in 15yrs, I don’t even know where I would begin anymore but I do know more stuff is plug and play than it was back then, back then if you got the wrong part, your whole day was ruined and you had to figure out a way to find what was the right fit or change the motherboard or processor or blah blah.

I did speak to someone about it late last year, but it didn’t change the fact that when my wife told me she was pregnant again, it all came flooding back. So right now it’s just the worry of going through it again. So far everything is going smoothly, but you know it’s always in the back of my mind now.

last time I did it I used one of the online sites that lets you put builds together and they'll make it for you, but I just bought the parts and built it myself after I had a build together on their site. It let me start with basically a price point and how I'd be using it and then had stuff like recommendations for a tier up/down for each part etc. It made it a lot easier than when I did it back in high school.

 

[LOGiK]

last time I did it I used one of the online sites that lets you put builds together and they'll make it for you, but I just bought the parts and built it myself after I had a build together on their site. It let me start with basically a price point and how I'd be using it and then had stuff like recommendations for a tier up/down for each part etc. It made it a lot easier than when I did it back in high school.

It's a headache. For me at least. Even if you know what you're doing---or once knew years ago and have to reacquaint yourself with the new gear.
I start with (1) processor. (2) motherboard to fit. But with mb you have to make sure you have the pcie slots and sata slots for your ssd's / hard drives if you even use the things (i do) and other things. (3) Then match up your ram that cpu needs. (4) video card. (5) power supply. (6) case - specific to fit motherboard - atx matx atxe etc. (7) cooling the cpu / case fans and dimensions etc. (8) thermal paste for cpu, extra fans, extra anything else....

Easy enough sounding. We all know it's a pain in the arse. I wanted a super tiny case build. Then I went with a fishtank, which I already know is going to be a pain with dust, it doesn't have mesh but grates kind of... and I'm not one for rgb flashy, just stick it under the desk... which I may, but the case is too beautiful to cover up. It's roomy and airy, my main concern.
CPU I use emulators, I think and say I use other stuff on the computer but I honestly don't. So I went with a pure gaming cpu, 7800x3d. Good with games and emulators and I only use the browser to watch sports/shows/etc. I stream to tv also so... have the hdd for that.

cpu and gpu and motherboard are the biggest headaches. Motherboard more because there are way way way too many choices haha....

I used that builder thing too just to keep track of trial builds. It helps.
I was shocked I could ray trace with my 2060super even though it was admittedly pathetic. My kid will melt when she see's minecraft with raytracing. To me, that is the biggest difference between regular minecraft and raytracing... truly beautiful.

I have the case now, it is HUGE. First time having an AIO and THAT thing is huge. Kind of surprised how big that thing is.... the radiator alone is biiiig. (360mm).

 

[Ogrezilla]

Hit 12 I think right after the coronation before heading into the first big city, above the lower parts with the circus. I already got the other two, fairly quick succession too. Orin is the illusive one.

Ah yeah Orin definitely needs to go. Once they're gone I think you can jump into the home stretch pretty much right away if I remember right.

and yeah I just don't care enough to deal with all of that building a computer anymore. And especially since I travel for work the laptop is the easy choice.

 

[LOGiK]

Ah yeah Orin definitely needs to go. Once they're gone I think you can jump into the home stretch pretty much right away if I remember right.

and yeah I just don't care enough to deal with all of that building a computer anymore. And especially since I travel for work the laptop is the easy choice.

Same with my friend, haha.
Doesn't even want to hear about building it .. goes with a laptop.

They have /had (gaming) laptops but now even more so they have hand helds.... with plenty the quality. PC build just belongs in the home and should be a powerhouse imo. (i sit in front of it almost like it was a tv -- always have my whole life. whether or not I'm using it that is my personal chair) weird.... I guess... I donno =P

Good about orin. only problem is i think I have to go to that bhaal temple thing to find her... no? yes? I'm right about at that point I have to find one more right hand =P Yeah, being so close to the end I'm getting sick of the tease already, acts i and ii bring on the unending popup quests, there is still so much going on. act iii I expect the finale... not unending stuff again like act i and ii. that is just me though.... act iii is for the sum up, conclusion, am I wrong? Just feels weird to be building story in act 3

 

[Ogrezilla]

Same with my friend, haha.
Doesn't even want to hear about building it .. goes with a laptop.

They have /had (gaming) laptops but now even more so they have hand helds.... with plenty the quality. PC build just belongs in the home and should be a powerhouse imo. (i sit in front of it almost like it was a tv -- always have my whole life. whether or not I'm using it that is my personal chair) weird.... I guess... I donno =P

Good about orin. only problem is i think I have to go to that bhaal temple thing to find her... no? yes? I'm right about at that point I have to find one more right hand =P Yeah, being so close to the end I'm getting sick of the tease already, acts i and ii bring on the unending popup quests, there is still so much going on. act iii I expect the finale... not unending stuff again like act i and ii. that is just me though.... act iii is for the sum up, conclusion, am I wrong? Just feels weird to be building story in act 3

No I agree act 3 had more side quests than I think it should. It’s at the point where it can mess with the story momentum.

 

[LOGiK]

No I agree act 3 had more side quests than I think it should. It’s at the point where it can mess with the story momentum.

Yeah. It seems they compensated having no hub city kind of place available from the beginning that will host npcs and questlines (that alter with your gameplay choices in time) with placing most quests and npcs starting outside the city but will end up there. Which stinks in a way.... because I made a few choices I'd like to see pan out, but am so exhausted by this point I don't want to have to do more questing. Especially at max cap when there isn't much reward for doing so.
imo, act iii really stumbles and inevitably fumbles from game time fatigue.
imo.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yeah. It seems they compensated having no hub city kind of place available from the beginning that will host npcs and questlines (that alter with your gameplay choices in time) with placing most quests and npcs starting outside the city but will end up there. Which stinks in a way.... because I made a few choices I'd like to see pan out, but am so exhausted by this point I don't want to have to do more questing. Especially at max cap when there isn't much reward for doing so.
imo, act iii really stumbles and inevitably fumbles from game time fatigue.
imo.

It’s a problem I end up having with most rpgs, especially open world. They build the games so they can be finished without doing all of the side stuff, but if you do you end up making things too easy or even max level too early. And it always gets wonky story-wise to keep finding more side quests when the main plot is just waiting for me even though it’s supposed to be urgent.

 

[LOGiK]

It’s a problem I end up having with most rpgs, especially open world. They build the games so they can be finished without doing all of the side stuff, but if you do you end up making things too easy or even max level too early. And it always gets wonky story-wise to keep finding more side quests when the main plot is just waiting for me even though it’s supposed to be urgent.

Yeah. Agreeeeed.
Urgent hurry up imperative mission, but you can relax and get lost in distractions.
Next time I play I may go for straight main quest. Problem is they throw in personal quests for your entire party and they intermingle with the main story and get all discombobulated. Not sure how the flow would be skipping past them....

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yeah. Agreeeeed.
Urgent hurry up imperative mission, but you can relax and get lost in distractions.
Next time I play I may go for straight main quest. Problem is they throw in personal quests for your entire party and they intermingle with the main story and get all discombobulated. Not sure how the flow would be skipping past them....

I think the game that handled this the best was final fantasy 6. 30 year old spoilers ahead the last act of the game has your party beaten and spread across the world and the big bad takes over the world. Since he’s already taken over it reduces urgency. You can go fight the boss and save the world a few hours in after you have 3 of your party members back together. Or you can travel the world and build your full 14 person team back. Their stories are played out in these sections as you find them. And when you do the last dungeon you have three groups of 1-4 people depending on how many you’ve recruited. So it’s organically easier to get through the dungeon based on the side quests you’ve done to get the team back together. But then you can only get one of those groups to the boss himself so it doesn’t make the final battle super easy. It flows so well both story wise and power level wise.

Or chrono trigger, but time travel is kind of cheating to work around urgency

 

[Zirakzigil]

I haven’t built a gaming PC in 15yrs, I don’t even know where I would begin anymore but I do know more stuff is plug and play than it was back then, back then if you got the wrong part, your whole day was ruined and you had to figure out a way to find what was the right fit or change the motherboard or processor or blah blah.

I cant comment, because I find that sort of thing easy to do. But its pretty easy nowadays. Theyve simplified things a lot.

Hit 12 I think right after the coronation before heading into the first big city, above the lower parts with the circus. I already got the other two, fairly quick succession too. Orin is the illusive one.

wd_black sn850x is interesting choice for m2? I thought it was the norm???

I'm glad I went with a pcie 4.0 board, gigabyte b650 aorus elite, outside 1 pcie 5 for the m2 drive, but the other two m2's will only be pcie 4...
I don't get the gimmick for pcie 5 when nothing really uses it gaming wise. And you will pay dearly for pcie 5 slots.
I don't get it???

They are a common drive. Samsung 900 series are probably the best of the best, cost sometimes is stupid though. I like the Sabrent Rocket series as well. Have 2 rockets, recently put in a Samsung 980 for more space, was on sale for the same price as the Rocket and slightly faster.

PCIe 5 is completely overpriced and overrated for 99.9% of people out there. Graphically you can barely get close to full usage of PCIe 3 when you are using the full 16 lanes. PCIe 4 is more than enough for almost all home use. Unless you are regularly moving massive files, anything over 4 is overkill. Price and heat costs arent worth it.

 

[LOGiK]

I cant comment, because I find that sort of thing easy to do. But its pretty easy nowadays. Theyve simplified things a lot.

They are a common drive. Samsung 900 series are probably the best of the best, cost sometimes is stupid though. I like the Sabrent Rocket series as well. Have 2 rockets, recently put in a Samsung 980 for more space, was on sale for the same price as the Rocket and slightly faster.

PCIe 5 is completely overpriced and overrated for 99.9% of people out there. Graphically you can barely get close to full usage of PCIe 3 when you are using the full 16 lanes. PCIe 4 is more than enough for almost all home use. Unless you are regularly moving massive files, anything over 4 is overkill. Price and heat costs arent worth it.

Yep. I saw the game comparisons pcie 3, 4 vs 5 ... same exact thing, give or take.
Yeah, mostly pcie 4 is where gamers and home average users should and will be. I mean... even if you have a 5 board, most nvme stuff is pcie 4, unless you pay... and to me, those numbers are imaginary like you said, you'll never ever need that.
It irked me so bad to see 'top tier' gaming stuff pcie 5... when that is such a bollocks.

Get this... of course I forgot the cpu thermal paste so I had to hurry buy at best buy today and lo and behold a guy was at the gpu area with me looking around and he asked me about building a new gaming pc... I just played dumb because he was in the asking mood.... and when they only had crappy corsair xtm 50 (sold out of the 70) and I bought it just to have a spare (ordered artic silver 5 (for 6 dollars after paying 15 for xtm50)) the guy was at the counter asking about gpu's and the poor poor bastard was trying to buy a 100 dollar amd card for his new pc... the guy equally clueless behind the counter was actually trying to push it on him saying he'd get 100 fps on medium settings 1080p and just imagined how mad that guy would be if he listened to that guy... I got the heck out of there.

Not sure there is a point to the story other than average gamers don't really know much about computers outside of top level, medium, and meh.

All my stuff comes tomorrow... I have no new place cleared for this case... it's more.... 'showy' than my old 'throw-it-under-the-desk-it-works-fine-no-need-to-look-at-the-fancy-lights' build. Now I have to worry about hair and dust and all that.... good thing about my 10 year old is I don't really care about it much (I do... just not like a brand new build)... trouble awaits

oh and about the ssd's, yes I did read samsung is the best but pricey, it is only 7 more dollars than the wd black. I see a lot of sabrent rocket on toms hardware.... not sure where I got the wd_black .... I used samsung ssd's for my whole modern gaming existence so... we'll see. I need another for storage, I can always get a samsung m.2 and just switch. Not really worried about being stuck for a few weeks or months after working the new machine into a groove with all the settings bios, etc etc etc...

 

[LOGiK]

Ok, I have one pcie 5 x4/x2 m2 slot and 2 pcie 4 x4/x2 slots.

So... I'll just use 4 now. I have a wd black pcie4 x4 m2.
If I want to upgrade I'll go samsung pcie 5 x4 m2 in the future... if necessary. Too much though...

add:
Looking at pcie 5 x4 m2 ssd's the price is outrageous. 329$ d's for 2tb.

No idea why they'd need that for gaming. You don't.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Yep. I saw the game comparisons pcie 3, 4 vs 5 ... same exact thing, give or take.
Yeah, mostly pcie 4 is where gamers and home average users should and will be. I mean... even if you have a 5 board, most nvme stuff is pcie 4, unless you pay... and to me, those numbers are imaginary like you said, you'll never ever need that.
It irked me so bad to see 'top tier' gaming stuff pcie 5... when that is such a bollocks.

Get this... of course I forgot the cpu thermal paste so I had to hurry buy at best buy today and lo and behold a guy was at the gpu area with me looking around and he asked me about building a new gaming pc... I just played dumb because he was in the asking mood.... and when they only had crappy corsair xtm 50 (sold out of the 70) and I bought it just to have a spare (ordered artic silver 5 (for 6 dollars after paying 15 for xtm50)) the guy was at the counter asking about gpu's and the poor poor bastard was trying to buy a 100 dollar amd card for his new pc... the guy equally clueless behind the counter was actually trying to push it on him saying he'd get 100 fps on medium settings 1080p and just imagined how mad that guy would be if he listened to that guy... I got the heck out of there.

Not sure there is a point to the story other than average gamers don't really know much about computers outside of top level, medium, and meh.

All my stuff comes tomorrow... I have no new place cleared for this case... it's more.... 'showy' than my old 'throw-it-under-the-desk-it-works-fine-no-need-to-look-at-the-fancy-lights' build. Now I have to worry about hair and dust and all that.... good thing about my 10 year old is I don't really care about it much (I do... just not like a brand new build)... trouble awaits

oh and about the ssd's, yes I did read samsung is the best but pricey, it is only 7 more dollars than the wd black. I see a lot of sabrent rocket on toms hardware.... not sure where I got the wd_black .... I used samsung ssd's for my whole modern gaming existence so... we'll see. I need another for storage, I can always get a samsung m.2 and just switch. Not really worried about being stuck for a few weeks or months after working the new machine into a groove with all the settings bios, etc etc etc...

I cant even remember what paste I used. I used to use Silver 5 exclusively, but that formula is a good 20 years old now. I went somewhere else.... Nocta maybe?

Im sure your m2 will serve you just fine. Speed differences are minimal in the top brands.

I dont even bother asking people in the store for information, usually its wrong. We have a very good local store and even then I research everything out on my own.

 

[LOGiK]

I cant even remember what paste I used. I used to use Silver 5 exclusively, but that formula is a good 20 years old now. I went somewhere else.... Nocta maybe?

Im sure your m2 will serve you just fine. Speed differences are minimal in the top brands.

I dont even bother asking people in the store for information, usually its wrong. We have a very good local store and even then I research everything out on my own.

Yeah, I may not use the corsair 50 paste and just use the aio on the cpu until the paste comes on tuesday... or put a dab on the hotspot area and wipe it off come silver 5.

Yeah, that guy went in their seemingly clueless.... a big no no.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

@Clare2904 Mate, I’ve missed ya, where you been?

 

[LOGiK]

So... ups decided to aggressively and hurtfully stick their thumb up my arse ... in my whole week, this package was supposed to come wednesday -- friday, they emailed me last night ITS COMING EARLY derrrrhey! Only to wake up this morning and the truck never came or came late so it's sitting I donno, 40 miles away for three extra days because delivery-god-forbid they work on saturday or can't hire part time drivers.
I am serious, newegg / ups combination is terrible and when I lived in dc they stole my cpu and played football with the box... I get dc is a dump, but if that arrives less than perfect condition, albeit late, which really throws me into a slamming busy week were I have no time to build the thing until the weekend.... I'm going to slam newegg on review and switch to some other trashy sales site with better delivery.

 

[LOGiK]

@Clare2904 Mate, I’ve missed ya, where you been?

She's taking the walk with jurgen klopp

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Where's @Tom Hanks

 

[Pens1566]

Where's @Tom Hanks

I have it on good authority he's been executed at least 3 times for his heinous crimes against humanity. All to be revealed on closed circuit pay per view in the near near future.

/s

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Started wedding planning and emailing venues. Should be so much fun.

 

[Deport Ogie]

Started wedding planning and emailing venues. Should be so much fun.

Pick what is most important, schedule that first, then plan everything else around that. In my case, my then fiance really wanted to use a specific wedding photog so we scheduled based on his availability first then fit everything else into that window.