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Honour Over Glory

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Ahsoka so far be like:

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Couldn't stand more than 20mins before I logged out.
 

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No desire to see that at all.
bummer, it's a blast. But fair enough.
I enjoyed Barbie more than Oppenheimer. While Oppenheimer is still good it's run time hurt my enjoyment of it. It also didn't help that there were at least 30 minutes of previews.
Oppenheimer looks great too but ironically it looks like much less of a blast. It feels like the kind of movie I'll like a lot but won't really care to re-watch.
 
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No desire to see that at all.

Really want to see Oppenheimer though.
Barbie was meh, it tried too hard to be a satirical comedy with some message and fun and I just didn’t care for it. The director is very hit or miss with me.

Calls me a wanker but doesn’t want to see Barbie, mate the episodes were mediocre for Ahsoka. I loved rebels. I know I’ve mentioned that a lot. Hated that it followed the same boring formula. Maybe when more episodes come out and I can stomach the episodes I might.
 

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I enjoyed Barbie more than Oppenheimer. While Oppenheimer is still good it's run time hurt my enjoyment of it. It also didn't help that there were at least 30 minutes of previews.

As someone with Crohn's Disease I gotta say - either bring back intermissions or stop making movies that f***ing long.

And to be completely clear here...I am fully against mandating a shorter run-time, especially not for movies that can fully justify their run-times as I can only assume Oppenheimer does, but I'm sick of missing 10 minutes in the middle of a movie.

Honestly it's the biggest reason why I almost never go to the theater to watch movies anymore. Most of the movies I want to see are of the longer variety and the ability to pause things means I just throw them on the to-watch list...which without the ticking clock of a theater only showing a movie for so long means I just don't watch the movie, more often than not.


The previews don't help. There was a time when I would rush to get to the theater early in order to see the previews...now I try to avoid them at all costs. Maybe ~15 years of trailers spoiling important plot points (or outright creating fictitious ones not in the movie) wasn't such a great idea. I want to be indignant about word of mouth being the only thing that's going to make me interested in a movie anymore...but let's be real, I was always kinda like that. I can't even tell you the last movie I watched because of a trailer. There's a laundry list of movies I didn't see because of them, though.
 
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As someone with Crohn's Disease I gotta say - either bring back intermissions or stop making movies that f***ing long.

And to be completely clear here...I am fully against mandating a shorter run-time, especially not for movies that can fully justify their run-times as I can only assume Oppenheimer does, but I'm sick of missing 10 minutes in the middle of a movie.

Honestly it's the biggest reason why I almost never go to the theater to watch movies anymore. Most of the movies I want to see are of the longer variety and the ability to pause things means I just throw them on the to-watch list...which without the ticking clock of a theater only showing a movie for so long means I just don't watch the movie, more often than not.


The previews don't help. There was a time when I would rush to get to the theater early in order to see the previews...now I try to avoid them at all costs. Maybe ~15 years of trailers spoiling important plot points (or outright creating fictitious ones not in the movie) wasn't such a great idea. I want to be indignant about word of mouth being the only thing that's going to make me interested in a movie anymore...but let's be real, I was always kinda like that. I can't even tell you the last movie I watched because of a trailer. There's a laundry list of movies I didn't see because of them, though.
I am 100% in favor of an intermission on movies over a certain length. If I know I'm seeing a movie over 2 and a half hours I will avoid drinking much leading up to the movie, but that's certainly not ideal :laugh:
 

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Barbie was meh, it tried too hard to be a satirical comedy with some message and fun and I just didn’t care for it. The director is very hit or miss with me.

Calls me a wanker but doesn’t want to see Barbie, mate the episodes were mediocre for Ahsoka. I loved rebels. I know I’ve mentioned that a lot. Hated that it followed the same boring formula. Maybe when more episodes come out and I can stomach the episodes I might.
I think they nailed the casting calls for Ahsoka, also was impressed with the visuals used so far. Chopper in episode 2 was hilarious. Storyline could use a bit of work, but almost every Star Wars project could say that. In reality only maybe Rogue One didnt, but it would of been hard to screw that one up. I wanted to be entertained and I was entertained. Love the lightsaber duels, but it seems like they are giving away lightsabers now.
 

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I think they nailed the casting calls for Ahsoka, also was impressed with the visuals used so far. Chopper in episode 2 was hilarious. Storyline could use a bit of work, but almost every Star Wars project could say that. In reality only maybe Rogue One didnt, but it would of been hard to screw that one up. I wanted to be entertained and I was entertained. Love the lightsaber duels, but it seems like they are giving away lightsabers now.

Casting sort of did a good job. For a lot of the casting I'm in agreement for, the one I'm not I've made known. But the first 15mins is like rips of other movies and shows and it just feels unoriginal and as a big fan of the story that Rebels wanted to tell, I was very disappointed and I tried to watch it again the next day and saw it suffered the same pacing issues a Mando, Boba, etc.

It's like a show like last of us came out and showed you how you can pack each episode with incredible material in a short 8 episode season and Disney was like nah, let's bore them and then the last 2 episodes would be good and those poor suckers will like it.

I enjoyed Rogue One. Didn't care to know Andor and his back story. Felt unnecessary and shows how lost Disney is for original stories as they keep diving into the past and dead end stories.

I even enjoyed Solo.

Episodes 7-9 are garbage.
Mando is like 30% of content with 70% of filler.
Boba was literally just a waste of time.

And now they want to circle back to Rey. Lol.

The last good Star Wars content I saw was The Bad Batch. Filoni went from a promising Padawan to a Disney Sellout.

It's funny this triggers anyone. Not once did I say no don't watch it. As a big fan of Star Wars, I'll criticize the shit I don't like and that's my feelings. I am saddened that they took that franchise and Marvel-ized it. It's a franchise with no soul outside of the animated shows, imo.
 

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Ahsoka episode 1 sure ended fast. Episode 2 was quick and too short in my opinion. Apparently the episodes lose length from 50min down to about 30min. Mando has had a lot of filler. Really not looking forward to any new Star Wars Trilogies. Kenobi should of been with Maul and that story.
 

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I don't think I've watched anything Star Wars since Mando S2. I just didn't really care to watch Boba Fett, which I want to watch before Mando S3, which means I didn't watch either. Then I also didn't watch Obi Wan or Andor because now I'm behind. I was actually way behind getting to Clone Wars (I binged it all just in time to watch as the last season came out), and then haven't moved to Rebels for whatever reason.

The new movies were a mixed bag, but overall disappointing.

Force Awakens has a lot of good but also a good bit of not good and is obviously a rip-off plot, and the complete lack of a plan for the trilogy as a whole really drags down what did seem like good stuff.

Similarly, I liked a lot of Last Jedi as well. Very flawed, but I loved that it was trying stuff. But again, no plan.

So then with the backlash and lack of a plan, they put out the complete mess that is Rise of Skywalker. I thought it was fun enough the first time through, but didn't like that Palpatine was involved at all. Then on rewatch it really is just terrible pretty much start to finish.

Rogue one is good. By far the best of the Disney SW movies. Still flawed, but really good.

Solo was fine. It had enough good to be fun, but they crammed in way too many references etc. It feels like they put everything important that happened in his entire life prior to the original movie all in like 3 days. But I liked the cast and it's a fun enough movie for what it is. I hate that it made them think that recasting the OG's is impossible and try de-aging instead, because re-casting Han is not one of the flaws of Solo.

So now Ashoka is out and I'd like to watch it, but I need to watch Rebels first. Everything just needs to slow the hell down. Marvel has had similar issues post Endgame. I saw that there are actually more hours of MCU content post-endgame than there was pre-endgame at this point thanks to all of the shows. Please stop.
 
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Ill admit it took me a long time to get into Rebels, it grew on me over time. Only reason I started watching it was because I was immobile with a smashed elbow. I like how they have done a good job with the live cast of their characters.
 

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I'm still surprised people like Rogue One.

Such boring characters, a pointless story that didn't need to be told, and a pathetic reliance on dredging up things from the past like AT-AT's and Darth Vader.

It's not as bad as The Rise of Skywalker at least. That one was on the level of the prequels, just complete nonsense.
 

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One thing I do find odd that none of you fans mentioned is how apparently being hit or stabbed by a lightsaber is nothing. Get shanked by one and all good, you're good to go for the second episode.

A powerful weapon only when it needs to be otherwise it's just sort of there and if you get hurt by one you'll survive just fine. Even a stabbing.
 

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I'm still surprised people like Rogue One.

Such boring characters, a pointless story that didn't need to be told, and a pathetic reliance on dredging up things from the past like AT-AT's and Darth Vader.

It's not as bad as The Rise of Skywalker at least. That one was on the level of the prequels, just complete nonsense.

The most interesting parts of the new Star Wars trilogy was Kylo Ren and they f***ed that up and doubled down on pushing a female saviour, thrice in the 3 movies. Yet neither were all that great and 2 were legacy characters that spanned other media. Rey was boring as shit and they retconned that entire story into a shit show across 3 movies.

Finn was boring as f*** and the actor can whine all he wants, he's mad about having a shitty arc in a shitty movie.

Poe? What a useless arc.

Rogue One at least had some fun characters and a story that explains a portion of the original 3. To me it deepend the lore. The rest of what they've done has been largely cash grabs a la Marvel, churn out a bunch of shit that drones eat up and overrate with very little of actual substance and keep making money off the deep fan base.
 

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One thing I do find odd that none of you fans mentioned is how apparently being hit or stabbed by a lightsaber is nothing. Get shanked by one and all good, you're good to go for the second episode.

A powerful weapon only when it needs to be otherwise it's just sort of there and if you get hurt by one you'll survive just fine. Even a stabbing.
Also the force? Magic isn’t real guys.

For real though, are we attacking Star Wars movie logic? Losing limbs has been nothing but a minor inconvenience since empire strikes back. It means you lost that fight scene, but will immediately replace it and suffer no consequences to your abilities. It’s almost tradition at this point to have injuries be meaningless unless you lose your head. This stuff is popcorn action fantasy, not hard sci-fi. Pointless injuries are a staple of the popcorn action genre, not just a Star Wars thing.

Though like I said, I haven’t seen the recent shows yet so maybe they take it too far?
 
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I'm still surprised people like Rogue One.

Such boring characters, a pointless story that didn't need to be told, and a pathetic reliance on dredging up things from the past like AT-AT's and Darth Vader.

It's not as bad as The Rise of Skywalker at least. That one was on the level of the prequels, just complete nonsense.
I actually liked the characters.

The story is absolutely pointless, I’m with your there. Movie is unnecessary for sure.

It’s Star Wars. I like Star Wars things in my Star Wars.

I think the first 2/3 of Rogue One is just fine, it’s the third act that I love. It’s just a fun time watching a big Star Wars set piece.
 
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The most interesting parts of the new Star Wars trilogy was Kylo Ren and they f***ed that up and doubled down on pushing a female saviour, thrice in the 3 movies. Yet neither were all that great and 2 were legacy characters that spanned other media. Rey was boring as shit and they retconned that entire story into a shit show across 3 movies.

Finn was boring as f*** and the actor can whine all he wants, he's mad about having a shitty arc in a shitty movie.

Poe? What a useless arc.

Rogue One at least had some fun characters and a story that explains a portion of the original 3. To me it deepend the lore. The rest of what they've done has been largely cash grabs a la Marvel, churn out a bunch of shit that drones eat up and overrate with very little of actual substance and keep making money off the deep fan base.
Star wars? You know who should be the lead and 'saviour'? It would have to be live action, it would be gold to cast --
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I'm still surprised people like Rogue One.

Such boring characters, a pointless story that didn't need to be told, and a pathetic reliance on dredging up things from the past like AT-AT's and Darth Vader.

It's not as bad as The Rise of Skywalker at least. That one was on the level of the prequels, just complete nonsense.
Rogue One was well written, had beautiful scenery (third act), powerful climactic moments, a solid OST and a good cast.
I don't think it's a pointless story. It adds substance to ep 4 for people who watch SW chronologically in the future. It gets people more invested in who the rebels are and what they stand for. It showcases how far they're willing to go to fight for freedom.
The Death Star plans don't just pop up in Leia's possession for viewers, but you're made to understand that they took great sacrifice to attain.

It didn't need to rely on nostalgia. It had plenty going for it without Vader.
I rank it over Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and A New Hope. Of course all the gutter trash sequels too.

Plus without Rogue One we don't get Andor, which is arguably the best SW show. A lot of the same people worked on that.
 

LOGiK

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Anyone ever pay attention to numerology or symbolism in entertainment?

A simple one is 33 or 88... it is crrrrrrazy how many times you see it.
 
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