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Hey Terry, Do Us A Favor and SELL

SnuggaRUDE said:
The Panthers were terrible until suddenly they weren't. While Viola owned them I might add. These teams are bad for a number of reasons structural and random.

NYJ (and MIA) have both made the incredibly bad decisions to play in the same Division as 2 of the best QBS for 20 years straight. No amount of ownership was going to move Brady out of NE until he got old.

The Bills have historically been awful, There was a sliver the 60s, most of the 90s, and very recently they were good. Ownership made no difference.

I'll grant you there are some exceptions to this, particularly prior to the establishment of salary caps where some teams just weren't going to get there. It's a lazy false truism to think Ownership is what makes the majority of difference in these operations.
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I would say that ownership made a big difference for the Bills. Wilson did things at times through the '70's that helped create situations where 1st round picks wouldn't report (like Bills saint Jim Kelly). Spending on race horses instead of signing starters was a big one that sticks with me - Rashaad signed for less money than Ralph spent on a race horse the summer Rashaad (then Moore) went to Minnesota. It was constant nickel and diming until he stumbled into Polian and Levy. Hell, Levy was initially hated, a guy who had done stuff like run the Wing T like it was 1934 during his previous HC stop. There was so much luck involved in them getting that early '90's team and most of the 20 years before and 20 years after was just endless frustration with how they were run.

Viola getting control and establishing his own CEO had a lot to do with the Panthers rise. Similarly, Vinnik in Tampa took a team that was mired in being a joke and did wonders for the off-ice operations and front office that allowed them to put together the team we've seen most of the last 10 years. It wasn't due to palm trees or pine trees or tax incentives or carpet tacks.
 
Chainshot said:
I would say that ownership made a big difference for the Bills. Wilson did things at times through the '70's that helped create situations where 1st round picks wouldn't report (like Bills saint Jim Kelly). Spending on race horses instead of signing starters was a big one that sticks with me - Rashaad signed for less money than Ralph spent on a race horse the summer Rashaad (then Moore) went to Minnesota. It was constant nickel and diming until he stumbled into Polian and Levy. Hell, Levy was initially hated, a guy who had done stuff like run the Wing T like it was 1934 during his previous HC stop. There was so much luck involved in them getting that early '90's team and most of the 20 years before and 20 years after was just endless frustration with how they were run.

Viola getting control and establishing his own CEO had a lot to do with the Panthers rise. Similarly, Vinnik in Tampa took a team that was mired in being a joke and did wonders for the off-ice operations and front office that allowed them to put together the team we've seen most of the last 10 years. It wasn't due to palm trees or pine trees or tax incentives or carpet tacks.
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That 'joke' of a tampa team had also won the cup 9 years earlier. This is what I'm getting at, there's so much variance to sports. Especially one like hockey with it's calcified salary cap structure and contracts.

To the best of my knowledge none of the current NHL franchises are being run by the Yakuza. And even when they were Tampa had laid the ground work. That's when they drafted Richards and Lecaliver. Maybe you make an arguement that they wouldn't have signed St. Louis or traded for Prospal.
 
SnuggaRUDE said:
That 'joke' of a tampa team had also won the cup 9 years earlier. This is what I'm getting at, there's so much variance to sports. Especially one like hockey with it's calcified salary cap structure and contracts.

To the best of my knowledge none of the current NHL franchises are being run by the Yakuza. And even when they were Tampa had laid the ground work. That's when they drafted Richards and Lecaliver. Maybe you make an arguement that they wouldn't have signed St. Louis or traded for Prospal.
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Let's not forget Oren Koules. It's one of the few teams that has a worse winning percentage for an owner than Buffalo does for Pegula. Vinik coming in was a major shift in how they were run.
 
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Let's not forget Oren Koules. It's one of the few teams that has a worse winning percentage for an owner than Buffalo does for Pegula. Vinik coming in was a major shift in how they were run.
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Shit we don't even know who owns the Baltimore Orioles, and recently they've caught fire.

FWIW I do believe ownership can make a big difference in baseball because of how the money works.
 
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KeyserSoze81 said:
Yep. We are stuck with this fool until he bequeaths the team to his daughter. Having worked with a number of second generation business owners, I think we are going to keep falling through the center of the Earth.
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I think a second generation owner might be an improvement here, because they won’t consider themselves an amateur hockey GM (probably).
 
Most people in their mid-life crisis get a tattoo or a motorcycle.

Terry bought a sports team to "compete" with.


While I understand the temptation of a billionaire to give it a go... I just don't get how this is fun at this point. It is clear the franchise has been utterly ruined and inches closer to the abyss.

The negative vibes, negative press, irrelevancy, losing, failure.


Im sure you can feel plenty involved and invigorated owning an NHL team if you employ and empower qualified and strong-headed executives and management. It would be much more rewarding.
 
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ALL HAIL THE HOCKEY SLUMLORD!!!!!!!!!
 
Zman5778 said:
I'm not sure why that's a "From the top rope" comment. Seems like an obvious, low-hanging fruit kind of comment. Sure seems like Terry not knowing WTF to do is exactly the issue.
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I've been saying it for the last few seasons myself. It's clear that he has had no clue what he's doing in his tenure as owner, even to casual fans. Worse, he doesn't seem to have any idea of how to fix it. The team just stays in limbo with no improvement as a result
 
One of things I noted from the latest 32 thoughts blog is that people were piecing together that Buffalo and Detroit were talking because Buffalo actually had someone from the org out watching a game (It was the AGM Karmanos, who was born in Detroit FYI, so its possible he was in town over the holidays and stopped by)

And the same thing happened last year where their pro scout actually went to a game in person (Colorado) and the alarm bells went off.

But I think its important to take a step back and realize....the team has been so cheap it hasn't been paying for a pro scout to see games in person. So every time a Sabres pro scout ACTUALLY shows up at a game it becomes news because it means the Sabres are actually scouting someone.
Its a sad reflection on the state of the franchise and and ownership that a pro scout actually pro scouting on their behalf is noticed because of how rare it is. Shouldn't we have pro scouts out watching games all year long to find potential fits for the team? Like, you know, all the other teams.

It really is sad to see how far this franchise has just gone straight into the shitter.
 
I don't this losing streak is going to cease unless and until the majority of the fans just stop going to the games.
 
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