Hey Terry, Do Us A Favor and SELL

[May Day 10]

There is no hope.

None.

Its the definition of selfish.

 

[sabremike]

That's only true because you're tautologically begging your question.

OK you're right, it's just a total act of God why some organizations succeed forever and some fail forever.

 

[Chainshot]

The Panthers were terrible until suddenly they weren't. While Viola owned them I might add. These teams are bad for a number of reasons structural and random.

NYJ (and MIA) have both made the incredibly bad decisions to play in the same Division as 2 of the best QBS for 20 years straight. No amount of ownership was going to move Brady out of NE until he got old.

The Bills have historically been awful, There was a sliver the 60s, most of the 90s, and very recently they were good. Ownership made no difference.

I'll grant you there are some exceptions to this, particularly prior to the establishment of salary caps where some teams just weren't going to get there. It's a lazy false truism to think Ownership is what makes the majority of difference in these operations.

I would say that ownership made a big difference for the Bills. Wilson did things at times through the '70's that helped create situations where 1st round picks wouldn't report (like Bills saint Jim Kelly). Spending on race horses instead of signing starters was a big one that sticks with me - Rashaad signed for less money than Ralph spent on a race horse the summer Rashaad (then Moore) went to Minnesota. It was constant nickel and diming until he stumbled into Polian and Levy. Hell, Levy was initially hated, a guy who had done stuff like run the Wing T like it was 1934 during his previous HC stop. There was so much luck involved in them getting that early '90's team and most of the 20 years before and 20 years after was just endless frustration with how they were run.

Viola getting control and establishing his own CEO had a lot to do with the Panthers rise. Similarly, Vinnik in Tampa took a team that was mired in being a joke and did wonders for the off-ice operations and front office that allowed them to put together the team we've seen most of the last 10 years. It wasn't due to palm trees or pine trees or tax incentives or carpet tacks.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I would say that ownership made a big difference for the Bills. Wilson did things at times through the '70's that helped create situations where 1st round picks wouldn't report (like Bills saint Jim Kelly). Spending on race horses instead of signing starters was a big one that sticks with me - Rashaad signed for less money than Ralph spent on a race horse the summer Rashaad (then Moore) went to Minnesota. It was constant nickel and diming until he stumbled into Polian and Levy. Hell, Levy was initially hated, a guy who had done stuff like run the Wing T like it was 1934 during his previous HC stop. There was so much luck involved in them getting that early '90's team and most of the 20 years before and 20 years after was just endless frustration with how they were run.

Viola getting control and establishing his own CEO had a lot to do with the Panthers rise. Similarly, Vinnik in Tampa took a team that was mired in being a joke and did wonders for the off-ice operations and front office that allowed them to put together the team we've seen most of the last 10 years. It wasn't due to palm trees or pine trees or tax incentives or carpet tacks.

That 'joke' of a tampa team had also won the cup 9 years earlier. This is what I'm getting at, there's so much variance to sports. Especially one like hockey with it's calcified salary cap structure and contracts.

To the best of my knowledge none of the current NHL franchises are being run by the Yakuza. And even when they were Tampa had laid the ground work. That's when they drafted Richards and Lecaliver. Maybe you make an arguement that they wouldn't have signed St. Louis or traded for Prospal.

 

[Chainshot]

That 'joke' of a tampa team had also won the cup 9 years earlier. This is what I'm getting at, there's so much variance to sports. Especially one like hockey with it's calcified salary cap structure and contracts.

To the best of my knowledge none of the current NHL franchises are being run by the Yakuza. And even when they were Tampa had laid the ground work. That's when they drafted Richards and Lecaliver. Maybe you make an arguement that they wouldn't have signed St. Louis or traded for Prospal.

Let's not forget Oren Koules. It's one of the few teams that has a worse winning percentage for an owner than Buffalo does for Pegula. Vinik coming in was a major shift in how they were run.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Let's not forget Oren Koules. It's one of the few teams that has a worse winning percentage for an owner than Buffalo does for Pegula. Vinik coming in was a major shift in how they were run.

Shit we don't even know who owns the Baltimore Orioles, and recently they've caught fire.

FWIW I do believe ownership can make a big difference in baseball because of how the money works.

 

[SonofHerb]

That's only true because you're tautologically begging your question.

Thank you. I learned a new word today.

 

[HaNotsri]

How old is Terry? Just asking...

 

[Fjordy]

How old is Terry? Just asking...

73

 

[DapperCam]

Yep. We are stuck with this fool until he bequeaths the team to his daughter. Having worked with a number of second generation business owners, I think we are going to keep falling through the center of the Earth.

I think a second generation owner might be an improvement here, because they won’t consider themselves an amateur hockey GM (probably).

 

[tsujimoto74]

Sabres Mailbag: Terry Pegula isn't going to sell the hockey team after nearly 14 years

Another lost season may lead to another firing or two, but it won't convince Pegula to change his approach or abandon the hockey team.

buffalonews.com

In case anyone needed more confirmation that Terry is indeed this team’s biggest problem. He can’t keep his fingers out of the pie, and he’s making a mess.