Here and Now: The Preseason
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ibleedkings
Rob Fake
The good from tonight;
It's the first preseason game
The bad;
Pretty much everything else.
I will say Jeff Carter might land us 1st overall. Him Lewis and TT were a complete disaster tonight.
It's the first preseason game
The bad;
Pretty much everything else.
I will say Jeff Carter might land us 1st overall. Him Lewis and TT were a complete disaster tonight.
I was two rows up in the corner for that one. I swear the glass almost came down 5 times that night.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
kingsboy11
Champions Again
I've been trying to wrap my mind about what I was going to say on my way back from Staples and this is the best I've got. And I don't want to be too hard on some of the guys since its game one of the preseason and learning a new system under a new coach, but honestly the guys who need to have a good season did not give me any hope tonight. So I'll just separate guys into different categories on how well I thought they played.
Bad: Kovalchuk, Carter, Toffoli, Lewis, Clifford, Kempe, Brickley, Quick, Ryan
Meh: Prokhorkin, Spence, Luff, JAD, Kaliyev, Petersen
Alright/decent: Clague, Durzi
Good: Kupari, Rempal, Bjornfot
Kupari was definetely the best player tonight imo. He does still hold onto the puck longer than he should, but he's still pretty agressive and him and Rempal had some good chemistry together. I saw a little bit of this in the rookie games, but Bjornfot really likes to join the attack when entering the offensive zone which I liked a lot. Clague probably won't look that good on the stat sheet tonight, but he was mostly dragged down by Brickely. Clague has a really good first pass and made some heads up plays to help exit the zones. One thing that I was surprised about was that Prokhorkin was throwing his weight around tonight.
It was funny watching somebody wearing #74 and not having it be a lumbering giant Dwight King out there
Bad: Kovalchuk, Carter, Toffoli, Lewis, Clifford, Kempe, Brickley, Quick, Ryan
Meh: Prokhorkin, Spence, Luff, JAD, Kaliyev, Petersen
Alright/decent: Clague, Durzi
Good: Kupari, Rempal, Bjornfot
Kupari was definetely the best player tonight imo. He does still hold onto the puck longer than he should, but he's still pretty agressive and him and Rempal had some good chemistry together. I saw a little bit of this in the rookie games, but Bjornfot really likes to join the attack when entering the offensive zone which I liked a lot. Clague probably won't look that good on the stat sheet tonight, but he was mostly dragged down by Brickely. Clague has a really good first pass and made some heads up plays to help exit the zones. One thing that I was surprised about was that Prokhorkin was throwing his weight around tonight.
It was funny watching somebody wearing #74 and not having it be a lumbering giant Dwight King out there
*sees game results in AZ*
The cup is ours!
*sees staples results*
The tank is ours!
The cup is ours!
*sees staples results*
The tank is ours!
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I wasn't there, but that's exactly my takeaway from listening.
On one hand, I'm sure it's easier for the young guys to program than it is for some of the vets to DEprogram; on the other, the guys you would think would come out roaring with some pride and anger game out with a wet fart and literally got scored on 18 seconds in.
On one hand, traditionally, the vets take a bit longer to get up to game speed while the guys fighting for jobs are always roaring, see: Brandon Bochenski; on the other, everyone should be fighting for jobs at this point.
On one hand, it's just one meaningless preseason split squad game; on another, at how many levels do you need to get your shit kicked back in before you address that the problem has to do with very very very basic competitiveness and habits, especially after airing all last season's dirty laundry out?
I've stuck up for some of these guys for a really long time and I still feel like last season is an aberration in the grand scheme of things, but yet, even though it's only one preseason game, they did exactly what they've always done, despite the best efforts of the youth around them. f***ing disgusting veteran play.
Kingspiracy
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How many hands have you got RJ?
Im not worried yet, but some of these wet farts better wake up soon.
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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Yikes. I’m out of town so I didn’t get a chance to listen, but it’s getting harder to defend some of our veterans. At this point, I’m just hopeful we won’t have to pay to get rid of some of these guys.
Axl Rhoadz
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Let me get this straight...you guys are all upset that the Kings are playing just like you all had predicted they would? Makes perfect sense...
People forget Amadio led the rookies two seasons ago in a thrashing of the VGK rookies and their starters during split squad action... the kid has loads of talent now let him play!
kilowatt
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I actually meant to put Mikey Anderson, not Amadio, although Amadio was +1 with a goal. He led all Kings forwards with 19:02 TOI.
Reaper45
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Am I the only one who just doesn't see it with Brickley? He's big and skates well for a big kid but I get the Jack Johnson, tools and no toolbox vibes.
Reaper45
Registered User
I know I suggested it in the past but waive Carter and assign him to the Manitoba Moose or whatever AHL team is the farthest from Manhattan Beach. When he refuses to report, terminate his contract for breach of contract. Sorry Jeff you're a nice guy and all but yeesh.
The kid has gone downhill after dealing with his dad's illness and death.. Feel bad for the kid..
Thankfully the kids didnt make me look like an ass... but I commented that the Amadio line was going to tear shit up and they did... and I also said the Anderson - Strand pairing was one to watch...
From what I can tell, Mikey, Kale and Tobias are damn impressive.... which is really good for us!
DoktorJeep
Luc and Rob are a waste of time and money.
I wasn’t a fan of hiring coach Todd, but so far I like what he has done with the lines and what he said after last nights game in LA.
Based on his actions and words, there seems a reasonable chance now that the old vets who are washed up will start to get healthy scratched on the regular.
I feel bad for Clifford being stuck with Carter and Lewis. It really needs to be Kovalchuk with them using recent performance. #’s 77, 22 and 17 are anchors on the nhl roster and are holding back ice time from prospects.
Maybe one of them does bounce back during camp and shows they legitimately earned a spot based on their performance and not their contract. But it’s doubtful that one does, never mind two or all three rejuvenating their careers.
At some point management has to respect the time and money fans spend on the team and put the best product on the ice.
Based on his actions and words, there seems a reasonable chance now that the old vets who are washed up will start to get healthy scratched on the regular.
I feel bad for Clifford being stuck with Carter and Lewis. It really needs to be Kovalchuk with them using recent performance. #’s 77, 22 and 17 are anchors on the nhl roster and are holding back ice time from prospects.
Maybe one of them does bounce back during camp and shows they legitimately earned a spot based on their performance and not their contract. But it’s doubtful that one does, never mind two or all three rejuvenating their careers.
At some point management has to respect the time and money fans spend on the team and put the best product on the ice.
The Tikkanen
Pest
Went to the game at Staples last night. My thoughts:after Quick's complete lack of effort on the first goal I would have yanked him. He looks like he's ready to call it a career and go home-no compete. Carter-the only time I noticed Carter on the ice was when I was thinking "hey, this is a split squad game, shouldn't Carter be dominating these kids?" Carter looks ready to call it a career and go home. Kovalchuk was sitting at the end of the bench which he did often last season. That's something I do in rec leagues when I don't like my teammates, which is often. I saw no hints of an up tempo attacking system, the Kings were completely outplayed in every aspect of the game. Now for the good news-tickets were dirt cheap and will be all season long, nobody is going to pay money to see this team play. And the Kings will earn a top pick in the lottery. I was expecting more last night, instead I got a less talented version of last season.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
I skipped last night's game but will be going tomorrow and Monday.
Sounds exactly like last year's pre-season games.
Tickets are always dirt cheap for pre-season Arizona but, yes, tickets will be cheap for most games. There will definitely be some $6 Stub Hub games this year when playing teams with no visiting fans like Carolina, Dallas, Arizona etc.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
ibleedkings
Rob Fake
This is the vibe I've always got from McClellan. He's not afraid to play younger players if they are the ones bringing it.
