Here and Now: The Preseason

[KingsFan7824]

Plenty of other older veteran depth players move from team to team, so I feel like with the Kings it's intentional, where as most other teams prefer to cycle through depth players the Kings prefer to keep them for over a decade. I researched it and posted it here maybe a couple of years ago, but at the time the Kings had an insane amount of players with 8+ years in the organization, way more than any other team in the NHL.

And the Kings may not be the worst drafting team this decade, but they have to be up there. It has been so long since we drafted and developed a top pairing defender or top 6 forward, so yeah that is how you end up with Forbort playing with Doughty and Iafallo playing with Kopitar.

They do, but is it through trades when they have years left on their contracts after they hit their early to mid 30's? If they do get dealt, is it for another old guy/depth player, or two, to make the numbers work? Kessel got dealt for a younger guy, but he had the thing with Malkin, and he's younger than June 2017 Carter, and has fewer years left on his contract than Carter did 2 years ago.

That was the downfall of Lombardi. We've all been over it; he could not get rid of anyone that had won the Cup for him. He let a few guys go in free agency(or more likely the cap forced him), but the first player from either Cup team that was actually traded was King, in 2017, and he was going to leave as a free agent anyway.

We don't know what Blake will do yet. He was left with the remnants of what Lombardi built. He gave the team one more chance, they blew it, and since that became crystal clear, he's been slowly getting rid of guys. This will be the first real deadline where he's free to get rid of the long time UFA's, as there weren't any last year.

 

[kings11]

They do, but is it through trades when they have years left on their contracts after they hit their early to mid 30's? If they do get dealt, is it for another old guy/depth player, or two, to make the numbers work? Kessel got dealt for a younger guy, but he had the thing with Malkin, and he's younger than June 2017 Carter, and has fewer years left on his contract than Carter did 2 years ago.

That was the downfall of Lombardi. We've all been over it; he could not get rid of anyone that had won the Cup for him. He let a few guys go in free agency(or more likely the cap forced him), but the first player from either Cup team that was actually traded was King, in 2017, and he was going to leave as a free agent anyway.

We don't know what Blake will do yet. He was left with the remnants of what Lombardi built. He gave the team one more chance, they blew it, and since that became crystal clear, he's been slowly getting rid of guys. This will be the first real deadline where he's free to get rid of the long time UFA's, as there weren't any last year.

Pretty much, Guys like Toffoli, Lewis, Ryan, Hutton, Frk, maybe even Martinez will be moved this deadline. Some have mentioned scenarios were we're in teh playoff hunt and do we move the vets.. Well of course we do because these guys have been surpassed by younsters in Ontario thagt could set right in and we wouldnt lose a step.. JAD/Kupari/Anderson bring what Toffoli/Lewis/Ryan do at the moment!
I said maybe for Martinez because lets say for arguements sake Bjornfot stays as Doughty's partner, Anderson could be the 3rd pairing guy with Amart and have Hutton with Walker.. I excluded Forbort because i am assuming his back injury is bad and this will be a lost season...
This is the moment we've all been waiting for, the moment that younger, hungier players replace guys that have reached the mountain top and are good with it, guys that no longer mesh with this new Kings style of play and guys that have just fallen off..

 

[Sol]

Coming from a guy who thought last year that Brickley should be playing first pairing minutes with DD, after 1 exhibition game...not only did he not make the team but was arguably the worst D in the AHL

Tell me who was good defensively last year before you make an awful flex like that.

 

[bland]

Pretty much, Guys like Toffoli, Lewis, Ryan, Hutton, Frk, maybe even Martinez will be moved this deadline. Some have mentioned scenarios were we're in teh playoff hunt and do we move the vets.. Well of course we do because these guys have been surpassed by younsters in Ontario thagt could set right in and we wouldnt lose a step.. JAD/Kupari/Anderson bring what Toffoli/Lewis/Ryan do at the moment!
I said maybe for Martinez because lets say for arguements sake Bjornfot stays as Doughty's partner, Anderson could be the 3rd pairing guy with Amart and have Hutton with Walker.. I excluded Forbort because i am assuming his back injury is bad and this will be a lost season...
This is the moment we've all been waiting for, the moment that younger, hungier players replace guys that have reached the mountain top and are good with it, guys that no longer mesh with this new Kings style of play and guys that have just fallen off..

Next season is that moment you are describing. This year will see a team of largely older vets either rising to the occasion or shuffling on to other places.

The key will be when Kupari, Thomas and possibly Fagemo push their way in. Turcotte will be here next year. Kaliyev is a couple away, realistically. If the lottery ticket named Vilardi can work his way back into the mix, terrific.

Bjornfot and Anderson may very well be regulars in 20-21. Peterson is waiting for the year.

Next season is when the real changes will be seen. This is a transition year. The best we can hope for is pride coming back and a more competitive environment than last year.

 

[Sol]

Ducks pre game says they're a playoff team. Idk if I'm being a homer by saying that the Kings got better prospects by the ducks, and will surpass the ducks shortly.

 

[crassbonanza]

Pretty excited for this game, the Kovalchuk-Kempe-Kupari line should be interesting and I'm intrigued to see if Prokhorkin can show off some of his talent. This likely will be a deciding game to see who stays and who goes from the forward tweeners.

 

[Bandit]

Ducks broadcast huh? They’re playing three nights in a row? Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before?

 

[Bandit]

God damn. Quick’s 13th year... where does the time go

 

[Bandit]

LaDue -1

 

[Little Psycho]

Paul Ladont

 

[Ollie Weeks]

That was a very rough sequence for LaDue.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I can’t see LaDue making it. Maybe they can trade him for Gabe Landeskog.

 

[kingsholygrail]

God damn. Quick’s 13th year... where does the time go

More like 12th. He only played three games in 2007-08.

 

[onlyalad]

Duck loving wife says “ Millers in goal”
And I reply so is quick
She says for the Kings
I said let’s wait until the third shot before drawing any conclusions

 

[Jericho111091]

5 goals from lewis incoming. Calling it.

 

[Little Psycho]

Kovy looks he drank vodka before the game

 

[Sol]

Isn't this the ducks starting line up vs the Kings B team

 

[Little Psycho]

5 goals from lewis incoming. Calling it.

For which team?

 

[Bandit]

Isn't this the ducks starting line up vs the Kings B team

Yup. It’s not gonna be pretty

 

[King'sPawn]

You know, I don't know if it's just the fact I have less animosity towards the Ducks, or the Faust/Fox effect, but the Ducks broadcast is actually tolerable. They've done a good job complimenting the Kings while still talking good hockey about the Ducks.

 

[King'sPawn]

Prokhorkin has been pretty underwhelming once again.

 

[Bandit]

You know, I don't know if it's just the fact I have less animosity towards the Ducks, or the Faust/Fox effect, but the Ducks broadcast is actually tolerable. They've done a good job complimenting the Kings while still talking good hockey about the Ducks.

Yeah I feel like they haven’t been terrible the last few years, but Hayward is still gonna whine like a bitch if the Ducks get called for a penalty.

 

[Bandit]

Prokhorkin has been pretty underwhelming once again.

He’s playing?

 

[Little Psycho]

And there’s Hayward. Sell that lol

 

[Bandit]

“Perhaps he helped sell that”

Never change Hayward