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Confirmed with Link: Head Coach Vacancy Pt IV — Rangers get permission to speak to Ruff

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SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I think that's there plan — to have someone in place before the draft (which, of course, is also before free agency opens).

The odd thing is it's been over a week since Torts was fired and I don't believe they've interviewed anyone yet.
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Is it possible, the Rangers are looking at any of the Assistant Coaches from the teams still in play? Who are the Assistant's in Boston? Gorton connection?
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
Is it possible, the Rangers are looking at any of the Assistant Coaches from the teams still in play? Who are the Assistant's in Boston? Gorton connection?
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I would assume anything is possible. If they are it would be damn refreshing as every name we've heard mentioned is a pretty expected name.

Tony Granato is an assistant with Pittsburgh. He's also a former head coach and has Ranger ties.

John Stevens in an assistant with LA. He's a former head coach.

Disclaimer: I am not endorsing either Stevens or Granato.
 
NHRangerfan said:
Today's post

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/ex_ranger_mottau_praises_eakins_2VUwMg2KTgCXlMUON5nckO
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I won't make a post saying this is why we should hire Eakins as I don't know enough about him or the other available coaches but I will say this. Whoever we bring in, I hope they have this mindset. These players need a fresh mind and I think the freedom to do what they do best. The dictator like style of coaching of Torts is the opposite of what we need and an open mind such as Eakins' would be a breath of fresh air for the players.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
Yeah, I would rather go with a hungry, young coach than Ruff or Vigneault.
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Are Claude Julien or Quenneville not young or hungry? They'll both be coaching in the finals though.

Lindy Ruff is the same age or younger than both of those guys.
 
NYROrtsFan said:
Are Claude Julien or Quenneville not young or hungry? They'll both be coaching in the finals though.

Lindy Ruff is the same age or younger than both of those guys.
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And he's definitely hungrier than Julien. Julien is well-fed.
 
NYROrtsFan said:
Are Claude Julien or Quenneville not young or hungry? They'll both be coaching in the finals though.

Lindy Ruff is the same age or younger than both of those guys.
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Are Ruff or Vigneault of similar caliber to either of those guys?

When the options for the older guys aren't that great, then go for a younger guy looking to prove himself and who looks like he has high potential in coaching.

But hey, if you want Ruff, go for it. He will be a whipping boy within a year.
 
NikC said:
the hockey those 05-06, 06-07 Sabres teams played was some of the most dynamic hockey i've ever seen. They were a machine. simply devastating offense. within seconds they had you on your heels, they cycled the puck furiously.

They had no "elite" talent, but a lot of smooth skating offensive minded players. I'm not sure what was their ultimate downfall, maybe not enough veteran talent? not physical enough?

No sooner did they start enjoying success, the team lost Drury and Briere, and that was it... Rupp hasn't been too impressive since then.
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They lost to Carolina due to loosing 4-5 Ds more or less at the same time.

Then they started loosing people (was McKee the first?).
 
Ola said:
They lost to Carolina due to loosing 4-5 Ds more or less at the same time.

Then they started loosing people (was McKee the first?).
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Jay McKee was one of them, yes

The Sabres lost because their entire D core was decimated.. Had AHL guys doing 1st pair work.
 
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And he's definitely hungrier than Julien. Julien is well-fed.
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Lirl

I bet.

But yeah. These guys are pretty damn good coaches. Know how to manage more or less if they have to. It also helps that their players are good too, but it goes both ways.

Regarding Lindy, it takes a particular team for him to work well. He's coached some awesome teams though
 
Kypreos said that it’s a tough situation for Glen Sather because not only will he have to tell Mark Messier “no†when it comes to him getting the job, but that Messier could then leave his position in the Rangers front office.

He added that he think Messier would leave the organization if he doesn’t get the head coaching job and that the next coach of the Rangers may not be comfortable having a guy like Messier, who wanted the job, watching from above every night.

MacLean said that he doesn’t see any situation besides the Rangers where Messier would get a shot at being a head coach.
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http://snyrangersblog.com/2013-rang...ob/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Let him leave. The organization will somehow survive without his contributions.
 
I'm sure they've lost janitors of more importance than Messier.
 
I can get why it would be awkward for Messier to be the assistant coach, but why would that be the case if he is the assistant to the regional general manager? John Tortorella will be analyzing you on TSN, and Pierre McGuire will be talking to your players in between periods as well.
 
You know something, I am entirely against the hiring of Messier to coach the Rangers and hope that Sather has the guts to say no to him. But I am really taken aback with the bad-mouthing of perhaps the most important man in the history of this franchise in the last 70 years. Yes, I know 1994 is along time ago. Yes, I know his hiring as coach would likely be a disaster. Yes, I know he never should have put Sather in this position but, I will never put down this guy. Without him (and Leetch, Graves, Richter, et.al) we'd still be hearing the 1940 chant. I really tired of hearing people lay him out as if he were nothing.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
Are Ruff or Vigneault of similar caliber to either of those guys?

When the options for the older guys aren't that great, then go for a younger guy looking to prove himself and who looks like he has high potential in coaching.

But hey, if you want Ruff, go for it. He will be a whipping boy within a year.
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Julien was pretty much in the same boat as those guys prior to taking the Boston job. A pretty mediocre stint with the Habs. One year with the Devils where they lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. In fact, Chiarelli has admitted that there were internal discussions of firing Julien when the Bruins were underachieving prior to winning the Cup. Quenneville had similar stints in St. Louis and Colorado prior to joining the Blackhawks.

I'm not necessarily endorsing either Ruff or Vigneault, but to imply that they are completely different from where Quenneville and Julien are prior to joining the Blachkawks and Bruins respectively is ridiculous.
 
alkurtz said:
you know something, i am entirely against the hiring of messier to coach the rangers and hope that sather has the guts to say no to him. But i am really taken aback with the bad-mouthing of perhaps the most important man in the history of this franchise in the last 70 years. Yes, i know 1994 is along time ago. Yes, i know his hiring as coach would likely be a disaster. Yes, i know he never should have put sather in this position but, i will never put down this guy. Without him (and leetch, graves, richter, et.al) we'd still be hearing the 1940 chant. I really tired of hearing people lay him out as if he were nothing.
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Amen!
 
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