Hawks of Yesteryear Part II - Madden AHL 17

[JaegerDice]

Former Blackhawks connection in Calgary as Versteeg makes a beauty pass to set up a Brouwer goal against CBJ.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Johns was sent to the AHL by the Stars today.

 

[ClydeLee]

Forgot he still would be eligible for that since yeah he is only his 3rd contract year and hasn't played a lot.

But it made me curious to look up Clendening after recalling some saying he had a hot start. He's actually been a healthy scratch since early in the season since early Novemeber.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Yup, our coaching and management group seem to be making the right decisions when it comes to which players to trade so far.

Also, Sharp just came back from concussion, but he only has 2pts in 7GP so far.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Imagine if we traded Forsling instead of Johns or Paliotta

 

[Teemu]

Travis Moen retires, Ryan Stanton traded to Blue Jackets

 

[IU Hawks fan]

http://deadspin.com/andrew-shaw-get...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Never change, Shaw.

 

[Blue Liner]

http://deadspin.com/andrew-shaw-get...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Never change, Shaw.

He really seems to have hit another level of stupid this season.

 

[ChiHawks10]

He really seems to have hit another level of stupid this season.

Maybe he's having trouble learning to speak French...

 

[BK]

http://deadspin.com/andrew-shaw-get...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Never change, Shaw.

I told you this was going to happen. Shaw is a good player but walks the line. Now that he got paid long term he has no reason to control himself.

Hartman has basically replaced Shaw (minus the PP portion) along with Motte.

Shaw turned into Alex DeBrincat and Chad Krys (this pick is debatable if it is good or not). You make this more 11/10 times.

 

[LDF]

Imagine if we traded Forsling instead of Johns or Paliotta

in ref to your post, imagine if the other teams wanted forsling instead.

 

[JaegerDice]

I told you this was going to happen. Shaw is a good player but walks the line. Now that he got paid long term he has no reason to control himself.

Hartman has basically replaced Shaw (minus the PP portion) along with Motte.

Shaw turned into Alex DeBrincat and Chad Krys (this pick is debatable if it is good or not). You make this more 11/10 times.

Or, a leadership group of Toews, Seabrook, Keith, Sharp (for awhile), plus Q kept his ass in line.

Hell, I still remember reports of Handzus taking Shaw aside during the 2013 cup run and telling him to knock off or at least tone down the stupid ****.

Who's doing that in Montreal? Shea Weber? Carey Price?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Or, a leadership group of Toews, Seabrook, Keith, Sharp (for awhile), plus Q kept his ass in line.

Hell, I still remember reports of Handzus taking Shaw aside during the 2013 cup run and telling him to knock off or at least tone down the stupid ****.

Who's doing that in Montreal? Shea Weber? Carey Price?

Weber doesn't have the clout and pull of Handzus?

 

[JaegerDice]

Weber doesn't have the clout and pull of Handzus?

Handzus did it Shaw's rookie year (well technically 2nd year, though Shaw joined late in 2012). Shaw has since been to 3 more conference finals and 2 more sc finals than Weber.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

If you think Shaw has anywhere near the amount of pull in the locker room as Weber does we can just agree to disagree.

 

[BK]

Or, a leadership group of Toews, Seabrook, Keith, Sharp (for awhile), plus Q kept his ass in line.

Hell, I still remember reports of Handzus taking Shaw aside during the 2013 cup run and telling him to knock off or at least tone down the stupid ****.

Who's doing that in Montreal? Shea Weber? Carey Price?

No not at all.

Leadership is not the issue with his behavior. Shaw is the issue with Shaw. He has done this type of stuff many time before with the Hawks and will continue to do it with the Canadians.


Also - JD can you answer my question about the Hawks medical staff? You implied it was lacking.

 

[JaegerDice]

If you think Shaw has anywhere near the amount of pull in the locker room as Weber does we can just agree to disagree.

I dont think he has the same pull, I just doubt the influence of those leaders on Shaw in particular.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Q has always seemed to reel players in that get too many PIMs.

Ryan Hartman is a good example this year. Last year in the AHL he had something like 90PIM. This year he only has 2 so far. Shaw's previous high was around 76PIM, he already has 56 this year.

Not sure what he does, if anything. But it sure seems like guys stay out of the penalty box in Chicago more so than any other city they play in.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I dont think he has the same pull, I just doubt the influence of those leaders on Shaw in particular.

Weber has worn a letter for Canada. He should have a Norris. If he's talking to Shaw, Shaw's listening.

 

[hockeydoug]

Shaw is the issue with Shaw.

I thought this sums it up rather nicely.

 

[CourtneyDagger50]

Q has always seemed to reel players in that get too many PIMs.

Ryan Hartman is a good example this year. Last year in the AHL he had something like 90PIM. This year he only has 2 so far. Shaw's previous high was around 76PIM, he already has 56 this year.

Not sure what he does, if anything. But it sure seems like guys stay out of the penalty box in Chicago more so than any other city they play in.

To be fair, the IceHogs last year were something else.... there were fights almost every game.

But Hartman also did some dumb ****. Glad he cut that out.

 

[clydesdale line]

Q has always seemed to reel players in that get too many PIMs.

Nobody wants to give Q credit. I remember Ben Eager was even worse, came here and was pretty solid with us under Q controlling his emotions, goes to Atlanta and was bad once again.

Hell, Ryan Garbutt was a piece of trash before he got here. Now he's a model citizen (still) on the ice.

 

[BK]

Nobody wants to give Q credit. I remember Ben Eager was even worse, came here and was pretty solid with us under Q controlling his emotions, goes to Atlanta and was bad once again.

Hell, Ryan Garbutt was a piece of trash before he got here. Now he's a model citizen (still) on the ice.

People want Q gone but have no choices or ideas even replace him.

He has his issues but he is a damn good coach and a hall of fame coach.

People would hate Babcock and Bowman if they coached here.

They all play players they feel more comfortable with.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Nobody wants to give Q credit. I remember Ben Eager was even worse, came here and was pretty solid with us under Q controlling his emotions, goes to Atlanta and was bad once again.

Hell, Ryan Garbutt was a piece of trash before he got here. Now he's a model citizen (still) on the ice.

Yeah, Carcillo was another one.

 

[hawksrule]

Ben Eager sucked. Couldn't do anything well other than skate.