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Have we lost every game when the other team played last night?

Omni Owl said:
Third line needs to be broken up badly. I dunno what happened to that group, they were doing great earlier in the season and then vanished. The 4th line should be the new 3rd line...
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If the fourth line is the Shore line (and who ever knows these days), they're only getting 8-10 minutes ice time.

Kings need to get around 62% of the available points in the games remaining to get to 96 points (hopefully that's enough), Jets 56%, Minnesota 50%, Calgary 59% and Sharks 75%. She'll be a barn-burner down to the wire. Maybe time to bring Richards up, assuming there's not some issue we're not aware of pertaining to team chemistry or player psychology, that management thinks may screw things up further. If the Kings fail to reach the play-offs by a point or two I'm sure there'll be criticism if Richards remains buried in the minors.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
Do we lead the league in losses where we outshot the opponents?
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Shots for and against are some of the most misleading stats in hockey as is the +- player stat. Kings easily won the shot score 31-18 but of those, how many were really quality chances for both sides? If, on a 5 on 5, a goaltender flubs a bouncing puck from the red line, should his team and the other team be credited with a +-? I think the leafs were continually being outshot by opponents earlier in the year and were winning their fair share of games. Bring in a new coach who teaches the players to lower the shots against and look what happens; total disaster.
 
moosehead81 said:
If the fourth line is the Shore line (and who ever knows these days), they're only getting 8-10 minutes ice time.

Kings need to get around 62% of the available points in the games remaining to get to 96 points (hopefully that's enough), Jets 56%, Minnesota 50%, Calgary 59% and Sharks 75%. She'll be a barn-burner down to the wire. Maybe time to bring Richards up, assuming there's not some issue we're not aware of pertaining to team chemistry or player psychology, that management thinks may screw things up further. If the Kings fail to reach the play-offs by a point or two I'm sure there'll be criticism if Richards remains buried in the minors.
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With Richards, don't forget the cap!
 
I'm sorry but Matt Greene should be benched. I'm sick of him and his stupid penalties. He's a nuisance on the ice.
 
The Kings wil need to survive their 5 games in 8 nights road trip at the end of March.
 
The reason I put such an emphasis on Vancouver is because the Kings only play Calgary one more time. The Kings play Vancouver three more times and winning all three would put them in great shape to finishing second.
 
moosehead81 said:
If the fourth line is the Shore line (and who ever knows these days), they're only getting 8-10 minutes ice time.

Kings need to get around 62% of the available points in the games remaining to get to 96 points (hopefully that's enough), Jets 56%, Minnesota 50%, Calgary 59% and Sharks 75%. She'll be a barn-burner down to the wire. Maybe time to bring Richards up, assuming there's not some issue we're not aware of pertaining to team chemistry or player psychology, that management thinks may screw things up further. If the Kings fail to reach the play-offs by a point or two I'm sure there'll be criticism if Richards remains buried in the minors.
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To do what, exactly?
 
moosehead81 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he already take up LA cap space even though he's playing in Manchester? Not sure I understand what you're getting at.
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All but 900000. Not sure where our cap is at or if that's an issue (may mean shore has to go down).
 
Omni Owl said:
Third line needs to be broken up badly. I dunno what happened to that group, they were doing great earlier in the season and then vanished. The 4th line should be the new 3rd line...
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Where are you going to put them? The other three lines are playing well. Stoll's line isn't a liability on defense at least.
 
KINGS17 said:
Where are you going to put them? The other three lines are playing well. Stoll's line isn't a liability on defense at least.
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On the contrary, they constantly turn pucks over in their own zone or in the neutral zone. If there's a measurement for zone time, I bet they have the least amount of time spent in the offensive zone and probably the most amount of time spent in the defensive zone.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
On the contrary, they constantly turn pucks over in their own zone or in the neutral zone. If there's a measurement for zone time, I bet they have the least amount of time spent in the offensive zone and probably the most amount of time spent in the defensive zone.
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They turn pucks over, yes. It's a line that leaves a lot to be desired, but at least Stoll is on the right side of the puck most of the time.

As I said, what are you going to do with those 3 players? Brown is the only one that has been useful as of late, and he can't carry that line by himself. I don't see Sutter breaking up the three successful lines that he has, at least not until Pearson returns.
 
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KINGS17 said:
They turn pucks over, yes. It's a line that leaves a lot to be desired, but at least Stoll is on the right side of the puck most of the time.

As I said, what are you going to do with those 3 players? Brown is the only one that has been useful as of late, and he can't carry that line by himself. I don't see Sutter breaking up the three successful lines that he has, at least not until Pearson returns.
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You are right, the play of that trio really doesn't give Sutter many options as they seem to drag everyone else around them down. It saddens me to see Williams go from a Conn Smythe winning season to his least productive season in the NHL since his rookie year.

As for Stoll, everything about his play has been on the decline. His number of shots on goal are down, he hasn't registered an assist since December 18 against the Blues, and nothing goes right for him when the puck touches his stick blade.

Those guys are all on the wrong side of 30. Brown has been working his tail off but the guy just can't produce, and I think it is largely due to the fact that he doesn't drive the net enough. The guy should be scoring ugly goals around the goal mouth, but more often than not he's flying down the wing and firing away, which rarely works out for him.

Last season Brown finished with 15 goals and 27 points. This season he has 10 goals and 25 points. His days of playing in a top six role may be done.
 
Bandit said:
Matt Greene didn't pass the puck to a covered guy in the slot in OT that turned into the game winning goal, Jeff Carter did.
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Greene did leave his area without the puck, (the biggest no-no as a LA King Defender). Matt Greene knows better, he is a veteran.

It was a fail all around, every single guy on the ice. Fundamental hockey 101.

Quick as well, that puck went right through him, so he left a hole.
 
Stoll has three points since January 1. All goals. Mind-boggling.

Furthermore, Williams has 8 goals and 3 assists which isn't bad at all. Dustin Brown has 4 goals and 9 assists.

Pretty obvious what's going wrong on that line.
 
Reclamation Project said:
Stoll has three points since January 1. All goals. Mind-boggling.

Furthermore, Williams has 8 goals and 3 assists which isn't bad at all. Dustin Brown has 4 goals and 9 assists.

Pretty obvious what's going wrong on that line.
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I don't get what the issue would be with moving Shore up to that line.
 
I'm of the mindset that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. That fourth line has been phenomenal recently. Speed, responsibility, anger, and scoring. Shore is the real deal and has been fantastic defensively for a rookie.

Stoll is the anchor on that third line. Williams has been a disaster too with all his turnovers. It's getting ridiculous. Brown is the only player on that line that is playing a rounded game. He was awesome last night.
 
Brown has his share of turnovers and lapses, it's why he leads Herby's Green Jacket award at -9 for the season.

Sutter just put all the disasters(over the last 25 games) on one line, and is probably going to leave them there to figure it out. It's a miracle that Justin Williams is only a -1 this season with all of his turnovers.
 
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At least Brown is consistently making things happen though. I'd rather have three solid lines and one poor one.
 
Where does Pearson go when he returns? Back on the second? Take Lewis spot on the first? Or hope he can salvage the third?
 
CowMix said:
Where does Pearson go when he returns? Back on the second? Take Lewis spot on the first? Or hope he can salvage the third?
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I hope so. He's a better player,scorer and has better hands around the net than King.There's proven chemistry. I love what King does, but you get him within 3 feet of the paint and his hands turn to stone.Last night only 77 and 73 were noticeable. Someone will have to come out, but knowing Sutter he'll healthy scratch Pearson because he hasn't played, lines are working, blah blah blah
 
King - Kopitar - Gaborik
Pearson - Carter - Toffoli
Brown - Lewis - Williams
Clifford - Shore - Nolan

Will never happen, but I think that is the Kings best lineup when TP returns.
 
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