Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack/Bloomington Bison Thread: Part XV

[gravey9]

It's possible but I think improbable.

If we look back at another big guy in Brian Boyle, who for all intents and purposes was a good skater for a guy who was 6'7 even back to his college days, he took until really 24/25 years old to be an everyday NHLer. Now, Rempe has a unique quality in comparison because his style and role aren't changing as much as Boyle's had to.

But in saying that, Rempe is 20. Barring a HUGE off-season which sees him take a significant jump in strength and skating, which is unlikely, the hope I think should be that when he turns 22, after another full successful season next year where he starts to move up in the lineup and sees better offensive production (say closer to ~.4-.5ppg), then perhaps he enters the discussion.

So in summary, I think the 'hope' should be another year in the AHL and then he enters the conversation a bit.

I agree. Only caveat I'd make... unlike every other prospects in our system that would likely need to show they can score at a decent clip or even dominate at lower levels...

Rempe likely has a different bar.

He's basically a throwback enforcer type if he makes it. I don't care if he pulls a Sammy Blais in terms of offensive production. What I want to see from him is a bit more basic. Can he keep up with the play? Is he fast and agile enough to be effective? Make hits, get in on the forecheck, cause turnovers, get to the right spots, clear pucks, simple passes, block shots, maybe pk, etc.

Can he simply not hurt his team when he's out there and be a strong physical presence?

Basically, can he be Ryan Reaves, but the younger version? That's all I think we need for him to make it to the show. Could be a good 12th of 13th forward.

Is there more upside there? Possibly. And I wouldn't want to limit him. But I think the bar he needs to clear to get to the show is different than a Zac Jones or even a Will Cuylle (though closer to Will). He is likely a useful player sooner because we're not asking him to even be a 4C to make an impact.

If the Rangers have bigger plans for Rempe -- then yeah, I totally concur that he's a year or a few away.

 

[Ranger Ric]

Hajak clears waivers and will be in Hartford.

 

[GAGLine]

Don't forget that the Wolfpack game is free on AHL TV tonight.

 

[Ranger Ric]

I didn't watch because of the Ranger game and I am going to the game in Hershey tomorrow night.

Although the Pack outshot Lehigh Valley 35-24 they lose 5-2 giving up a 3rd period PP and then an empty net goal to break open the game.

I did just see the highlights.

LV take the lead when Brodzinski fails to cover his man who scores.

Pack come back when Reuschhoff, who was a late addition, makes a good pass finding an open Elson who puts it home.

Reuschhoff then has a turnover at the defensive blue line but the Pack still in good shape except the Lehigh Valley player goes around Jones and puts it home. I'm losing faith in Jones because of the defense.

LV goes up 3-1 when at the end of a power play there's a scramble around the net and a LV player gets free in front. Fritz had broken his stick. The defensemen looked like they had players tied up so the open player probably was Fritz's.

I didn't bother with the remaining goals.

Hajak was traveling to Hartford and not available but could play tomorrow night. He and Hillman were defense scratches. Di Giacinto and Whelan were healthy scratches and Rydahl is out again day to day. I don't know if this is a lingering injury or just back luck but it's the 11th game he has missed this year out of 46.

Lines were:
Elson-Carpenter-Reuschhoff
Gettinger-Brodzinski-Pajuniemi
Cuylle-Fritz-Rempe
Tardif-Henriksson-Trivigno

Looking forward to live viewing tomorrow night.

 

[Ranger Ric]

I was at last night's game. Hartford outplayed Hershey and deserved to win but didn't. The Hershey goalie was terrific.

During warm up I noticed that Hajak was on the ice. So I looked to see which defenseman was being scratched but there were 7 dressed. So then I thought maybe they are going with 7 D. But then I saw Di Giacinto and Whelan skating so that looked like 4 complete lines. As it turns out although they took warm ups Wilenski, Tardif and Trivigno were the healthy scratches.

I don't understand what the team is doing with Trivigno. He is one of their better offensive players and he is on an offensively deficient team. When he is in he usually is on the 3rd and occasionally the 4 th line and sees little to know PP time. Why veterans who have no future and AHL players are playing over him is just not understandable to me.

Rydahl didn't come with the team and was listed as day to day. That's the 12th game he's missed this year. Smith is now listed as month to month with Khodorenko.

A funny scene during warmups. Domingue was the back up but during the time the players were shooting at the net without a goalie Domingue was taking part in the shooting. He likes to handle the puck.

The Pack totally dominated the beginning of the game getting the first 7 shots. Then Rempe takes a boarding penalty and when he thinks someone is going to challenge him he drops his gloves and gets an extra 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct. The Pack did a very good job killing both penalties but it did stop the momentum.

A few minutes later the Pack have the puck in the offensive zone and Jones pinches but the puck gets past him. Scanlin goes to cover up but Hershey pushes the puck past him. The Pack get back to stop a shorthanded situation but Hershey now controls the puck and everyone is scrambling around with complete chaos in front of the net. Scanlin has his man tied up but in looking for the puck the Hershey player is able to find it and score. Garant had no chance. The bad pinch by Jones started a series of events from which the Pack did not recover.

A few minutes later in the first on the PP Hershey tried to clear and Robertson knocks down the puck but does not control it and Hershey picks it up and scores on a breakaway. I thought Robertson had a very good game defensively but he should not be running a PP.

Shots at the end of 1 are 15-5. The Pack have many high danger scoring chances but couldn't beat the goalie.

It was much the same in the second with the Pack outshooting Hershey 13-7 making it 28-12 after two. The Pack finally break through when Fritz finds Cuylle in front an Cuylle beats the goalie on the short side. 2-1 after 2.

At one point in the third period the Pack are outshooting Hershey 30-12. Hershey then comes back a Dylan Garand made several very good saves giving the Pack a chance especially when the Pack were on a 5-3 PK.

The Pack went 0-6 on the PP. At one point in the third period on the PP the Pack find Gettinger in the slot all alone and he shoots into the goalie's chest. My son immediately says "that's a terrible shot." And it was. It had no chance of going in. But the team keeps putting the same players out on the PP. But the shorthand goal the team gave up on the PP was the difference.

The Pack now barely in 6th but have now fallen 6 points out of 4th and 5th.

Hajak was fine. As I said Robertson played a solid defensive game but should not be on the PP. In addition to his goal Cuylle had at least one grade A opportunity. The team played hard but it is offensively challenged. And the veteran forwards are not doing enough for the team.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I was at last night's game. Hartford outplayed Hershey and deserved to win but didn't. The Hershey goalie was terrific.

During warm up I noticed that Hajak was on the ice. So I looked to see which defenseman was being scratched but there were 7 dressed. So then I thought maybe they are going with 7 D. But then I saw Di Giacinto and Whelan skating so that looked like 4 complete lines. As it turns out although they took warm ups Wilenski, Tardif and Trivigno were the healthy scratches.

I don't understand what the team is doing with Trivigno. He is one of their better offensive players and he is on an offensively deficient team. When he is in he usually is on the 3rd and occasionally the 4 th line and sees little to know PP time. Why veterans who have no future and AHL players are playing over him is just not understandable to me.

Rydahl didn't come with the team and was listed as day to day. That's the 12th game he's missed this year. Smith is now listed as month to month with Khodorenko.

A funny scene during warmups. Domingue was the back up but during the time the players were shooting at the net without a goalie Domingue was taking part in the shooting. He likes to handle the puck.

The Pack totally dominated the beginning of the game getting the first 7 shots. Then Rempe takes a boarding penalty and when he thinks someone is going to challenge him he drops his gloves and gets an extra 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct. The Pack did a very good job killing both penalties but it did stop the momentum.

A few minutes later the Pack have the puck in the offensive zone and Jones pinches but the puck gets past him. Scanlin goes to cover up but Hershey pushes the puck past him. The Pack get back to stop a shorthanded situation but Hershey now controls the puck and everyone is scrambling around with complete chaos in front of the net. Scanlin has his man tied up but in looking for the puck the Hershey player is able to find it and score. Garant had no chance. The bad pinch by Jones started a series of events from which the Pack did not recover.

A few minutes later in the first on the PP Hershey tried to clear and Robertson knocks down the puck but does not control it and Hershey picks it up and scores on a breakaway. I thought Robertson had a very good game defensively but he should not be running a PP.

Shots at the end of 1 are 15-5. The Pack have many high danger scoring chances but couldn't beat the goalie.

It was much the same in the second with the Pack outshooting Hershey 13-7 making it 28-12 after two. The Pack finally break through when Fritz finds Cuylle in front an Cuylle beats the goalie on the short side. 2-1 after 2.

At one point in the third period the Pack are outshooting Hershey 30-12. Hershey then comes back a Dylan Garand made several very good saves giving the Pack a chance especially when the Pack were on a 5-3 PK.

The Pack went 0-6 on the PP. At one point in the third period on the PP the Pack find Gettinger in the slot all alone and he shoots into the goalie's chest. My son immediately says "that's a terrible shot." And it was. It had no chance of going in. But the team keeps putting the same players out on the PP. But the shorthand goal the team gave up on the PP was the difference.

The Pack now barely in 6th but have now fallen 6 points out of 4th and 5th.

Hajak was fine. As I said Robertson played a solid defensive game but should not be on the PP. In addition to his goal Cuylle had at least one grade A opportunity. The team played hard but it is offensively challenged. And the veteran forwards are not doing enough for the team.

Agree with you on Trivigno. He seems to be always going all-out when on the ice.
Maybe things not being picked up on the camera like skating his lane, back checking or not staying within Knoblaugh’s system(?)
Or maybe it’s a attitude or personality issue with either the Coach or his teammates(?)
Kind of a head scratcher though.

 

[cwede]

Agree with you on Trivigno. He seems to be always going all-out when on the ice.
Maybe things not being picked up on the camera like skating his lane, back checking or not staying within Knoblaugh’s system(?)
Or maybe it’s a attitude or personality issue with either the Coach or his teammates(?)
Kind of a head scratcher though.

Even if they just sneak into playoffs, gotta expect KK done after this.
And Steve Smith too, Schneider is Schneider, but Smith hasnt helped Jones win over Turk.
So many prospects coming in, and/or window narrowing

 

[surlysailor]

Even if they just sneak into playoffs, gotta expect KK done after this.
And Steve Smith too, Schneider is Schneider, but Smith hasnt helped Jones win over Turk.
So many prospects coming in, and/or window narrowing

I hope so, i know he thinks players are rushed to the nhl but besides Schneider, I have not been impressed with anyone who has come from the ahl. Kk is supposed to be developing these kids but (from what I read here) he seems to be favoring vets to save his job. Yes the playoffs are nice and all but it’s really nothing for the rangers if the kids aren’t playing and developing. There’s no reason for trig to be scratched.

 

[nyr2k2]

It's a fine line in the AHL between leaning on your vets to help you succeed as a team and giving the kids the appropriate opportunities to develop. I don't think KK intentionally discriminates against the younger guys, I think he's just too reliant on the "known quantities" particularly when things are tough. This season has been really frustrating because the veterans are not playing particularly well and none of the kids are really of the caliber of player that can just step up and take over a game.

At the same time, kids like Cuylle, Jones, Emberson, Scanlin, and Robertson have all been given good opportunities. Pajuniemi has, too, but he hasn't really done much with it. Even Rempe has gotten more of a shot than I would have anticipated given his ability. The one I question, and have questioned all year, is Trivigno. Maybe there's more to that. Hunter Skinner was the other one I didn't really understand and they traded him.

In general though I think the balance between veterans and rookies has been generally acceptable. Nothing out of the ordinary at the AHL level.

 

[17futurecap]

I was at last night's game. Hartford outplayed Hershey and deserved to win but didn't. The Hershey goalie was terrific.

During warm up I noticed that Hajak was on the ice. So I looked to see which defenseman was being scratched but there were 7 dressed. So then I thought maybe they are going with 7 D. But then I saw Di Giacinto and Whelan skating so that looked like 4 complete lines. As it turns out although they took warm ups Wilenski, Tardif and Trivigno were the healthy scratches.

I don't understand what the team is doing with Trivigno. He is one of their better offensive players and he is on an offensively deficient team. When he is in he usually is on the 3rd and occasionally the 4 th line and sees little to know PP time. Why veterans who have no future and AHL players are playing over him is just not understandable to me.

Rydahl didn't come with the team and was listed as day to day. That's the 12th game he's missed this year. Smith is now listed as month to month with Khodorenko.

A funny scene during warmups. Domingue was the back up but during the time the players were shooting at the net without a goalie Domingue was taking part in the shooting. He likes to handle the puck.

The Pack totally dominated the beginning of the game getting the first 7 shots. Then Rempe takes a boarding penalty and when he thinks someone is going to challenge him he drops his gloves and gets an extra 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct. The Pack did a very good job killing both penalties but it did stop the momentum.

A few minutes later the Pack have the puck in the offensive zone and Jones pinches but the puck gets past him. Scanlin goes to cover up but Hershey pushes the puck past him. The Pack get back to stop a shorthanded situation but Hershey now controls the puck and everyone is scrambling around with complete chaos in front of the net. Scanlin has his man tied up but in looking for the puck the Hershey player is able to find it and score. Garant had no chance. The bad pinch by Jones started a series of events from which the Pack did not recover.

A few minutes later in the first on the PP Hershey tried to clear and Robertson knocks down the puck but does not control it and Hershey picks it up and scores on a breakaway. I thought Robertson had a very good game defensively but he should not be running a PP.

Shots at the end of 1 are 15-5. The Pack have many high danger scoring chances but couldn't beat the goalie.

It was much the same in the second with the Pack outshooting Hershey 13-7 making it 28-12 after two. The Pack finally break through when Fritz finds Cuylle in front an Cuylle beats the goalie on the short side. 2-1 after 2.

At one point in the third period the Pack are outshooting Hershey 30-12. Hershey then comes back a Dylan Garand made several very good saves giving the Pack a chance especially when the Pack were on a 5-3 PK.

The Pack went 0-6 on the PP. At one point in the third period on the PP the Pack find Gettinger in the slot all alone and he shoots into the goalie's chest. My son immediately says "that's a terrible shot." And it was. It had no chance of going in. But the team keeps putting the same players out on the PP. But the shorthand goal the team gave up on the PP was the difference.

The Pack now barely in 6th but have now fallen 6 points out of 4th and 5th.

Hajak was fine. As I said Robertson played a solid defensive game but should not be on the PP. In addition to his goal Cuylle had at least one grade A opportunity. The team played hard but it is offensively challenged. And the veteran forwards are not doing enough for the team.

Always nice getting a write up from someone who got to check them out in person, thank you.

 

[Avery16]

Who should get called up with the black aces? Can Rempe handle a shift against NHL players?

What about Rueschhoff? Trivigno? Gettinger?

 

[NYR Viper]

Who should get called up with the black aces? Can Rempe handle a shift against NHL players?

What about Rueschhoff? Trivigno? Gettinger?

If it were me, Cuylle, Gettinger, Brodzinski. I'd consider Rempe just to have him around the team

 

[cwede]

Who should get called up with the black aces? Can Rempe handle a shift against NHL players?

What about Rueschhoff? Trivigno? Gettinger?

Best outcome is Pack make playoffs and last a couple rounds. Everyone in top game shape, and guys like Othmann, Berard, Sykora, Edstrom, BMB, Grubbe may have joined. So callups only for need while Pack plays on.

Once Pack out, yeah likely candidates are the vets- Brodzinski, Getts, Carp, maybe Welinski, Hajek, Domingue; and the upside kids Jones, Robertson, Garand, Othmann, Cuylle and maybe a couple others

 

[nyr2k2]

Who should get called up with the black aces? Can Rempe handle a shift against NHL players?

What about Rueschhoff? Trivigno? Gettinger?

For me it's Carpenter, Brodzinski, Gettinger, Cuylle, Jones, Hajek, Robertson, Domingue. Not that those are necessarily the most deserving (I'd love Emberson and/or Scanlin to get some time, as well as Trivigno) but are just what I think the Rangers would do. Maybe they also do Pajuniemi or something.

 

[Crease]

For me it's Carpenter, Brodzinski, Gettinger, Cuylle, Jones, Hajek, Robertson, Domingue. Not that those are necessarily the most deserving (I'd love Emberson and/or Scanlin to get some time, as well as Trivigno) but are just what I think the Rangers would do. Maybe they also do Pajuniemi or something.

Rangers generally value NHL experience over potential. I think your list is spot on.

 

[gravey9]

For me it's Carpenter, Brodzinski, Gettinger, Cuylle, Jones, Hajek, Robertson, Domingue. Not that those are necessarily the most deserving (I'd love Emberson and/or Scanlin to get some time, as well as Trivigno) but are just what I think the Rangers would do. Maybe they also do Pajuniemi or something.

Totally agree. I wonder if the total lack of RDs means that Emberson should be included in the squad. If an RD goes down, we're likely playing Harpur or Hajek out of position. Which seems a bit scary.

 

[cwede]

some attention at AHL site, but highlighting last season's extreme second half meltdown

Tuesday buzz: Wolf Pack looking to keep it simple

theahl.com

"Hartford Wolf Pack captain Jonny Brodzinski has heard about last season’s stretch drive for the club.
At 23-13-4-2 last season, the Wolf Pack had a grip on second place in the Atlantic Division and looked well on their way to going to the Calder Cup Playoffs for the first time since 2015. Thirty games later, the Wolf Pack found themselves packing up for the summer and heading home. That hold on second place had dissolved to a 32-32-6-2 finish after the Wolf Pack won only nine of their final 30 contests.
For much of that time, Brodzinski was on recall to the parent New York Rangers, and his absence certainly did not help matters for a team that was fighting to save its season. This year Brodzinski and the Wolf Pack want to head off any possibility of a repeat.
“We were pressing a little bit last year,” Brodzinski said of what he was told happened in Hartford amid that slump.
“Just playing the correct system that the coaches want us to, playing a simple game… As soon as you get away from that, it creates turnovers, it creates problems, and then guys are getting frustrated.”
Brodzinski and Rangers management recognize that the young prospects in Hartford need to experience the Calder Cup Playoffs this spring. At 19-19-3-6 and sixth in the Atlantic Division, the Wolf Pack are above the playoff line, but only by one point over Bridgeport and Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. And it so happens that the Wolf Pack have the Islanders on their busy schedule this weekend, a Friday night date at XL Center to kick off a three-in-three for both teams.
This past weekend the Wolf Pack lost games to Lehigh Valley and Hershey, but Brodzinski came away encouraged. Hartford outshot the Bears, 34-20, and controlled play for long stretches on Saturday night.
“I think if we keep playing the way that we’re playing right now,” Brodzinski said, “we’re going to find a lot of wins, and we’re going to keep marching up the standings. I think we’re trending in the right direction these past couple games. Just sticking the course, not getting frustrated with each other. I think that was a big thing [last season].
“I just try to keep it loose around the locker room. At the end of the day, we’re playing hockey for a living. I mean, after a loss it can be pretty frustrating for a lot of guys. But you’ve got to put it behind you and move on to the next one, because this next one could be the biggest one.”

 

[Ranger Ric]

Sunday’s game against Lehigh Valley will be on nhl network. Game time 5:00 pm. It’s the third of three this weekend.

 

[Ranger Ric]

For me it's Carpenter, Brodzinski, Gettinger, Cuylle, Jones, Hajek, Robertson, Domingue. Not that those are necessarily the most deserving (I'd love Emberson and/or Scanlin to get some time, as well as Trivigno) but are just what I think the Rangers would do. Maybe they also do Pajuniemi or something.

Last year the Rangers called up 7 to be black aces.. Kinkaid, Jones, Robertson, Lundkvist, Gettinger, Pajuniemi, Tinordi. nyr2k2's suggestion matches up pretty closely.

 

[Ranger Ric]

Scratches tonight: Scanlin, Hillman, Reuschhoff, Trivigno, Tardif

Domingue in goal

Hijak-Giutarri
Jones-Wilenski
Robertson-Emberson

Rydahl-Carpenter-Elson
Gettinger-Brodzinski-Pajuniemi
Cuylle-Fritz-Henriksson
DiGiacinto-Rempe-Whelan

There is nothing you can say that will make me comment on scratching Trivigno (and Scanlin) for AHLers. Don't even bother trying to make me comment. I just won't do it. There is no way I will comment on these scratches.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Why are the Wolf Pack wearing Tony Soprano Crew Track Suits?

 

[gravey9]

Scratches tonight: Scanlin, Hillman, Reuschhoff, Trivigno, Tardif

Domingue in goal

Hijak-Giutarri
Jones-Wilenski
Robertson-Emberson

Rydahl-Carpenter-Elson
Gettinger-Brodzinski-Pajuniemi
Cuylle-Fritz-Henriksson
DiGiacinto-Rempe-Whelan

There is nothing you can say that will make me comment on scratching Trivigno (and Scanlin) for AHLers. Don't even bother trying to make me comment. I just won't do it. There is no way I will comment on these scratches.

Too many skaters on the roster. But Trivigno not in the lineup is pure stupidity. Scanlin yeah. would like him in, but i see why he's the 4th LD on that depth chart.

Saw period 1. With the Robertson-Emberson pairing the 3rd pair, they have been very solid.

 

[gravey9]

Too many skaters on the roster. But Trivigno not in the lineup is pure stupidity. Scanlin yeah. would like him in, but i see why he's the 4th LD on that depth chart.

Saw period 1. With the Robertson-Emberson pairing the 3rd pair, they have been very solid.

Robertson wins a fight! He was roughing a guy in front of Domingue and then they fought. Good to see that kind of snarl. I think Robertson has turned a corner. He's no longer running around. I don't think he's that far behind any of the other LD options for 6D. They are sorta all at the general same level.

 

[bl02]

I guess we are back to the Hartford Wolfpack we know?!

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Hartford beats Providence in O/T 3-2.
Brodzinski with the game winner.
Karl Hendriksson and Bobby Trivigno.
Garand in net.