Hart Trophy Talk: MacKinnon, Malkin, Kucherov the Early Favorites, Scoring at Highest Rates By Far.

[Hischier and Hughes]

I'm not talking about most points. This thread is about the Hart trophy lol

Again, Mario won his first Hart trophy in 87-88 season while missing the playoffs by 1 point, furthermore his point totals that year were 168 points (70G, 98A in 77 GP) so he finished 1st in scoring as well and picked up the Art Ross.

Are you following?

So one year

McDavid isnt winning the Hart just drop it. He could score another 20 points before seasons end and he wont win it.

And the Oilers arent missing by one point. Theyre missing by over twenty. Enough with this nonsense

 

[Connor McConnor]

Connor is god but he's not the MVP this year. It's 100% not his fault the team fell apart this year but unfortunately for him it did and that excludes him from the discussion. If the Oilers were even in a playoff hunt he probably would be the favourite but they are probably going to end up with another lottery pick.

My decision hasn't changed much from 1-2 weeks ago other than Kuch dropping and Giroux rising:
Mack
Kopitar
Hall
Giroux
Kuch

 

[treple13]

I think if McDavid had been up big in the Art Ross race when the Oilers were still in the thick of the playoff race, that'd be one thing, but he's had his big end of the year run after the Oilers have been out of real contention.

 

[Troubadour]

If Colorado misses the playoffs, the Hart voters will be put in a quandary.

The obvious four names are MacKinnon, McDavid, Malkin, and Mucherov (had to stick with the 'M' theme). But the former two aren't on playoff teams, and the latter two are considered to be on "stacked" teams.

So the voters will have to decide whether making the playoffs or not playing on a stacked team is more important for determining MVP.

Unless they throw a curveball and vote for Taylor Hall. But the problem there is Hall's just so far down the scoring race that it's probably not likely.

It could very well go to Hall when M(a)c's don't make the playoffs. Both Malkin and Kucherov are on "stacked teams" and they are Russians too. They're not getting anything at this point.

Hall is definitely a good plan B.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

If Colorado misses the playoffs, the Hart voters will be put in a quandary.

The obvious four names are MacKinnon, McDavid, Malkin, and Mucherov (had to stick with the 'M' theme). But the former two aren't on playoff teams, and the latter two are considered to be on "stacked" teams.

So the voters will have to decide whether making the playoffs or not playing on a stacked team is more important for determining MVP.

Unless they throw a curveball and vote for Taylor Hall. But the problem there is Hall's just so far down the scoring race that it's probably not likely.

Kucherov is not winning over MacKinnon, Hall, Kopitar, Malkin, Marchand, etc.

And McDavid isnt even in the conversation

 

[MattySnipes]

So one year

McDavid isnt winning the Hart just drop it. He could score another 20 points before seasons end and he wont win it.

And the Oilers arent missing by one point. Theyre missing by over twenty. Enough with this nonsense

That's all I am saying man. It has happened, no matter how you wanna spin it. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he can win it. I am not saying there aren't other options who could be deserving of it, all I am saying is McDavid is a one-man show in Edmonton and he is clearly the most valuable player to that team out of all the teams in the league. Now whether the Professional Hockey Writers' Association sees it that way is a whole other thing. Just my opinion.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Should be Hall if the Devils are in the playoffs. Nobody is more important to their team than what Hall is to the Devils. Isn't that what the spirit of the award is all about?

 

[Troubadour]

Kucherov is not winning over MacKinnon, Hall, Kopitar, Malkin, Marchand, etc.

And McDavid isnt even in the conversation

I too feel that Kuch is out of it unless he miraculously comes back, steals the Art from Connor and both Mac and Mc stay out of the playoffs.

If the Avs stay out of the playoffs and McDavid wins the Art though, Connor definitely gets in the conversation.

 

[Hockey Nightmare]

Caring about all this hart trophy talk is tantamount to admitting that you care about what sports reporters think. But who really gives a damn about that? I can count on one hand the reporters I find are worth listening to. If anything does annoy me it's all this attention over the most overrated trophy in hockey.

 

[Horus]

I have been on this board for many years and I dont ever remember there being so much talk and confusion over the hart trophy lol. Is this year so much different than every other year? As a devils fan off course I'm rooting for Hall. But i have to agree that there's a good case for a lot of players.

Depending on how you define a hart worthy season, it could go several different players. For me, hall has the perfect mix between dominant ppg, huge gap with closest competition on his team (hischier) and dragging his team to a playoff spot that would have been absolutely impossible to reach without him. For me it's between Hall, mack and mcdavid. Any of the first two if they make the playoffs, mcdavid if the 3 miss. Like someone else mentionned, giroux is up there too. It's very close..

 

[hockeyguy1967]

What a crap post this is.

You should be ashamed. McDavid took he Oilers from leafue worst to bottom 10 - what an accomplishment lmfao

What a joke

You make zero sense at all. First, he was in the playoff's last year, he cannot control how the D and G play this year can he?

 

[Dustin]

If New Jersey makes the playoffs my vote goes to Hall. Just an insane season for him and the Devil's would be nowhere without him.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Everyone is so upset
=2`ts okay guys, McDavid cant win every award every year. There are 5-10 guys ahead of him for the Hart.

looked at your post history... bro you are obsessed with McDavid lol, also its obvious you were banned and remade an account

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Connor is god but he's not the MVP this year. It's 100% not his fault the team fell apart this year but unfortunately for him it did and that excludes him from the discussion. If the Oilers were even in a playoff hunt he probably would be the favourite but they are probably going to end up with another lottery pick.

My decision hasn't changed much from 1-2 weeks ago other than Kuch dropping and Giroux rising:
Mack
Kopitar
Hall
Giroux
Kuch

Why MacK at the top? The last 5 games when his team needed him the most he has disapeared and they are at danger of not making it. If they don't make it I assume I assume he falls out of your top 5? Hall as well?

 

[TruePowerSlave]

I do not appreciate how the Hart is not really the award for the best player in the game period. Instead a player needs to be on a playoff team and not to mention the most valuable player vague bs. Just give it to the best player and deep down we all should know who that really is.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

I think if McDavid had been up big in the Art Ross race when the Oilers were still in the thick of the playoff race, that'd be one thing, but he's had his big end of the year run after the Oilers have been out of real contention.

Oilers were out since Nov pretty much. McDavid always tears it up at the end of the year.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

McDavid is the best player of the season without any question, he is my clear winner. Too bad the Hart has other requirements that need to be filled.

 

[Midnight Judges]

And McDavid isnt even in the conversation

I think McDavid should win the Hart.

There. Now he is in the conversation.

Or were you just trying to be clever by talking about McDavid while claiming to not talk about McDavid? Kind of like the following statement: "This sentence that I am typing right now is not true."

Nah, I am thinking you stumbled into the catch 22 on accident.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Yeah McDavid wins it with how it is worded. But based on playoffs which seems like all the writers base it on, I would say Hall if they make it.

Best part is we can now see the voting, so we can see who the homers are like last year when Matthews had some votes lol.

 

[Empoleon8771]

McDavid is the best player of the season without any question, he is my clear winner. Too bad the Hart has other requirements that need to be filled.

How can you be the "most valuable player" if your team sucks? Being on a playoff team is the #1 requirement for the Hart.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

It could very well go to Hall when M(a)c's don't make the playoffs. Both Malkin and Kucherov are on "stacked teams" and they are Russians too. They're not getting anything at this point.

Hall is definitely a good plan B.

New Jersey isn't a playoff lock, so Hall might be out of the running. I wouldn't have him in the mix anyways though. If Colorado misses too, then that's 3 potential Hart trophy candidates out of the mix.

Personally, I don't get the "your team didn't make the playoffs" garbage. McDavid is clearly the best player this year, and certainly the most valuable to his team.

 

[snag]

Oilers were out since Nov pretty much. McDavid always tears it up at the end of the year.

Technically, the only sample we have for this is last year (and this one)...his rookie year he only played 45 games after being injured in his 13th game.

 

[snag]

How can you be the "most valuable player" if your team sucks? Being on a playoff team is the #1 requirement for the Hart.

So how can it be an individual award if it is dependent on the results your team achieves when you are likely not even on the ice? It is NOT a requirement as you say.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Why MacK at the top? The last 5 games when his team needed him the most he has disapeared and they are at danger of not making it. If they don't make it I assume I assume he falls out of your top 5? Hall as well?

His team has needed him all year, did you even watch the Vegas games or you just checking scoreboards? Vegas had a gameplan solely around MacK and he still generated chances, Fleury played amazing. He's been the most dominant player in the NHL all year while healthy so I will give him the benefit of the doubt for 3 games. We will see how he rebounds down the stretch.

If MacK misses playoffs he absolutely falls out of the top 2-3 but not much further than that.
If Hall misses playoffs he's out of the top 5 considering he's not even in the top 8 for scoring.

Even if Colorado misses and NJ makes it I think it's a toss up between Kopitar and Hall at this point.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

How can you be the "most valuable player" if your team sucks? Being on a playoff team is the #1 requirement for the Hart.

It's the #1 requirement? I looked up Hart trophy. Didn't see where it says that only playoff players are eligible.