Waived: Happy Trails Dale Weise (Waived - Unclaimed)

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Remember how good Ryan White was for the Flyers on the PK? They let him walk, and granted he is out of the league now, Hextall actually thought they could replace that kind of gritty player with Dale Weise. Hated letting White walk, hated the Weise signing even more. Good riddance ya thief.
 
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MiamiScreamingEagles

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I'm saddened that our rookie had to be around players like Dale Weise and has such an assessment. There are so many more talented players he should have been spending time playing with.
It could be due to a professional friendship. Eric Lindros with Keith Acton, Brad Marsh and Pelle Lindbergh, Mark Howe praised Glen Cochrane almost as much as any teammate he had over the years.
 

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How exactly do you move in talent without moving out scrubs?

If you don't have talent to move in, you just replace one scrub with another scrub, something we've seen for six years.
This is what happens when you strip the talent pipeline for a decade.
Which is why it would be crazy to trade a bunch of prospects and draft picks and return to the bad old days.
Because prospects aren't sure things for the most part, you need "safety in numbers" and a steady supply.
When you trade them, it should be strategically, not to "win now."
 

deadhead

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Remember how good Ryan White was for the Flyers on the PK? They let him walk, and granted he is out of the league now, Hextall actually thought they could replace that kind of gritty player with Dale Weise. Hated letting White walk, hated the Weise signing even more. Good riddance ya thief.

White's last season here was awful, worst than anything Weise did here.
Weise got paid the normal rate for FA bottom six types, look at last summer's pay rates.
Which is why you want to avoid FA for filling those spots, keep kids in the AHL for 2-3 years and develop them into useful bottom 6 players.
Which is what good teams do, so the players are ready to contribute immediately when they come up.
Prospects who have bottom six talent need time to refine their game to compensate for an average skill package.
 

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White's last season here was awful, worst than anything Weise did here.
Weise got paid the normal rate for FA bottom six types, look at last summer's pay rates.
Which is why you want to avoid FA for filling those spots, keep kids in the AHL for 2-3 years and develop them into useful bottom 6 players.
Which is what good teams do, so the players are ready to contribute immediately when they come up.
Prospects who have bottom six talent need time to refine their game to compensate for an average skill package.
Yeah, I don't remember White ever being a good player for us either. He was one of the few players I really wanted off the team.
 

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White's last season here was awful, worst than anything Weise did here.
Weise got paid the normal rate for FA bottom six types, look at last summer's pay rates.
Which is why you want to avoid FA for filling those spots, keep kids in the AHL for 2-3 years and develop them into useful bottom 6 players.
Which is what good teams do, so the players are ready to contribute immediately when they come up.
Prospects who have bottom six talent need time to refine their game to compensate for an average skill package.
Either way, regardless of how we remember his play, he was more influential on our 4th line than Weise ever has been. He won more than half his faceoffs, scored a few timely goals, and dropped the gloves when necessary. Sure, you let him walk, but you dont sign a lesser player to fill his role.
 

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I do wonder what made Weise such a good teammate.

It is super random - i'd expect him to say Giroux or even MacDonald (since we apparently think high enough of him to give him an A - i'm still trying to understand if he is a good leader otherwise since he isn't by example)
 

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White's last season here was awful, worst than anything Weise did here.
Weise got paid the normal rate for FA bottom six types, look at last summer's pay rates.
Which is why you want to avoid FA for filling those spots, keep kids in the AHL for 2-3 years and develop them into useful bottom 6 players.
Which is what good teams do, so the players are ready to contribute immediately when they come up.
Prospects who have bottom six talent need time to refine their game to compensate for an average skill package.

Ryan White: 1yr 525K .... 1yr 800K

107GP—> 17G - 11A - 28TP| 131 PIM | 12:18 ATOI

Best season: 16 total points

Dale Weise: 4yr $2.35Mil

152GP—> 17G - 17A - 34TP| 75 PIM | 11:59 ATOI

Best season: 15 total points

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Ryan Whites role was to be a 4th line energy player. He was signed to 2 contracts like that.
Dale Weise was signed to bring scoring to our stagnant B6 along with size and grit to a team that didn’t have much then.

Also, Weise has time on the 2nd line, a lot on the 3rd, and a decent amount of his time here on the 4th. Ryan White was only on the 4th (may have been moved up one time idk).

Ryan White has a much much better career in a Flyers sweater than Weise has. White actually did well in his role.
 

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Ryan White: 1yr 525K .... 1yr 800K

107GP—> 17G - 11A - 28TP| 131 PIM | 12:18 ATOI

Best season: 16 total points

Dale Weise: 4yr $2.35Mil

152GP—> 17G - 17A - 34TP| 75 PIM | 11:59 ATOI

Best season: 15 total points

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Ryan Whites role was to be a 4th line energy player. He was signed to 2 contracts like that.
Dale Weise was signed to bring scoring to our stagnant B6 along with size and grit to a team that didn’t have much then.

Also, Weise has time on the 2nd line, a lot on the 3rd, and a decent amount of his time here on the 4th. Ryan White was only on the 4th (may have been moved up one time idk).

Ryan White has a much much better career in a Flyers sweater than Weise has. White actually did well in his role.
Yep never had a player on the 4th line like him since. Way better then the garbage they put out right now.
 
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