Value of: Hanifin to Toronto

[Bond]

I mean...he has objectively played really well. Call it whatever you want it is just the truth lol

I am not saying that he for sure sucks and is a bust. He might work out but I think the Flames can get a better prospect than him if they go that route. Let's see what his stats look like halfway through his season.

 

[McJedi]

Cowen + 2024 1st top 10 protected for Hanifin?

if Jarnkrok needs to be added and Hanifin needs 50% retention then Toronto adds Flames choice of Minton or Robertson.

hanafin (50%) for Jarnkrok + Cowen + Minton + 2024 1st

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Cowen + 2024 1st top 10 protected for Hanifin?

if Jarnkrok needs to be added and Hanifin needs 50% retention then Toronto adds Flames choice of Minton or Robertson.

hanafin (50%) for Jarnkrok + Cowen + Minton + 2024 1st

That’s disgustingly bad for the Leafs.

 

[McJedi]

That’s disgustingly bad for the Leafs.

Then don’t ask for guys you can’t afford to acquire.

Aim lower. You have a weak farm system. Jarnkrok is a negative value Contract.

or just Hanafin for Cowen + 2024 1st. But won’t work with your lack of cap space.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Cowen + 2024 1st top 10 protected for Hanifin?

if Jarnkrok needs to be added and Hanifin needs 50% retention then Toronto adds Flames choice of Minton or Robertson.

hanafin (50%) for Jarnkrok + Cowen + Minton + 2024 1st

Oh my God lol show me a comparative deal to help make this make sense.

I don't see Hanifin landing 2 or 3 1sts (or prospects of equivalent value). Jarnkrok doesn't make up that value difference, and I am not even sure a guy with 20g for 2m is going to be looked at as this expensive cap anchor.

Hanifin doesn't want to be here, so it's a moot point. He's going to the US imo.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Then don’t ask for guys you can’t afford. Aim lower. You have a weak farm system. Jarnkrok is a negative value Contract.

You should worry about your own team buddy.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

What’s with this narrative that we aren’t willing to give anything of value?

We’ve put our future 1st and 3 of our top 4 prospects.

Muzzin at 2 years got essentially a first, grundstrom and durzi. So I guess 1st and a 2 2nds

Why the hell would Hanafin at 1 less year get more than any 1 of cowan, minten, Robertson + 1st when all of them are much better prospects than the former from the trade.

You just aren’t getting nylander for him 1 for 1, y’all are adding

 

[McJedi]

Oh my God lol show me a comparative deal to help make this make sense.

You want to dump a bad contract like Jarnkrok, you’ll need to add.

Cowen + 2024 1st For hanafin. I could show you plenty of trades like that. But won’t fit your cap space.

You should worry about your own team buddy.

You’re clearly not worried about your counterparty here. Toronto doesn’t have much to horsetrade with to get a Hanafin.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

You want to dump a bad contract like Jarnkrok, you’ll need to add.

Cowen + 2024 1st For hanafin. I could show you plenty of traded like that.

Cowan might be our Coronato. Would you be happy trading Coronato + 1st for a Hanifin quality player? I don't buy it.

You will probably get some better offers down south, where he's more likely to re sign. Someone like Anaheim who has more assets. Maybe they just wait and see if he hits UFA, though.

 

[McJedi]

Cowan might be our Coronato. Would you be happy trading Coronato + 1st for a Hanifin quality player? I don't buy it.

You will probably get some better offers down south, where he's more likely to re sign. Someone like Anaheim who has more assets.

It won’t cost less. Hanafin is a legit number 3. It’s not supposed to make Toronto happy. It’s supposed to satisfy the Flames GM. Sheesh. didn’t think that obvious point needed to be said.

And Coronato > Cowen.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

It won’t cost less. Hanafin is a legit number 3. It’s not supposed to make Toronto happy. It’s supposed to satisfy the Flames GM. Sheesh.

And Coronato > Cowen.

I think you will get the 1st, or the prospect, but I don't think you will get both.

My expectation is CGY gets a Hampus Lindholm type package, but a little less.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

You want to dump a bad contract like Jarnkrok, you’ll need to add.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You should worry about your own team buddy.

That users team is currently sitting at 6-1-0 lol. I doubt they are worried

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Apparently a guy who would have finished 4th in goals on the Flames is not worth 2.1m?

 

[McJedi]

No one is acquiring a 4th liner making $2.1mm/ per for the next three seasons. That’s a bad contract. Won’t be easy to dump. You can sign better players on one year deals for under $1mm.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

No one is acquiring a 4th liner making $2.1mm/ per for the next three seasons. That’s a bad contract. Won’t be easy to dump. You can sign better players on one year deals for under $1mm.

Should I just post the meme again?

 

[Bond]

I think you will get the 1st, or the prospect, but I don't think you will get both.

My expectation is CGY gets a Hampus Lindholm type package, but a little less.

Lol Cowan for Hanifin 1 for 1 and on the same level as Coronato. I love the early days of a new 1st round pick. Instantly overrated

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Lol Cowan for Hanifin 1 for 1 and on the same level as Coronato. I love the early days of a new 1st round pick. Instantly overrated

Nobody said 1 for 1, and nobody said D+1 Cowan = D+3 Coronato, I said he "might be our Coronato", which means a top 6 prospect after a couple years of development.

But hey, lying for likes is a strategy many take on here

 

[Bond]

Nobody said 1 for 1, and nobody said D+1 Cowan = D+3, I said he "might be our Coronato", which means a top 6 prospect after a couple years of development.

You directly equated to trading Cowan for Hanifin as trading Coronato for Hanifin. Pick a lane lol

 

[Deadly Dogma]

we should go after

No one is acquiring a 4th liner making $2.1mm/ per for the next three seasons. That’s a bad contract. Won’t be easy to dump. You can sign better players on one year deals for under $1mm.

Jarnkrok is far from a bad contract, if he was on the market we would have multiple offers

 

[Deadly Dogma]

You didn’t need to give examples of how everything good was off limits.

these are rental players, they just don't fetch blue chippers like Knies or legit star roster talent like Nylander

Cowen + 2024 1st top 10 protected for Hanifin?

if Jarnkrok needs to be added and Hanifin needs 50% retention then Toronto adds Flames choice of Minton or Robertson.

hanafin (50%) for Jarnkrok + Cowen + Minton + 2024 1st

that like really bad........... cowan+Benoit+1st for Hanifin@50% at the deadline is what I would expect

 

[McJedi]

these are rental players, they just don't fetch blue chippers like Knies or legit star roster talent like Nylander

that like really bad........... cowan+Benoit+1st for Hanifin@50% at the deadline is what I would expect

Your trade makes sense to me. I’d agree with it from a value perspective.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Your trade makes sense to me. I’d agree with it from a value perspective.

plus at 50% pro rated all we would need is about 1 mil cap space so we should be good space wise

 

[Mike Jones]

Lol, you wish.

It's not a wish - I really don't care one way or the other. It's just a name a friend of mine who works at Scotiabank Arena told me. I'm not claiming it as a rumour or anything - just something that came up over beers.

 

[LeProspector]

Offer starts with Matthew Knies and a 2026 first.