Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to the Kings who played back-to-back

[Runner77]

Feel terrible for @Grate n Colorful Oz who put in a herculean effort on the GDT. He deserved better.

 

[loudi94]

First time in years that I've been mad at the team for their performance. Specifically the top two lines. That's a good thing in that expectations have increased, but bad in that they're not being met. Our play in the defensive end continues to be a tire fire and we are getting no sustained pressure in the offensive end. It's early, but this type of effort isn't going to cut it.

 

[Habby4Life]

He’s neutered. Fear of making mistakes or being demoted. Fear of playing his game in case he gets the odd penalty. Fear of fighting because the D is then short handed (and this isn’t his fault because Habs don’t have enough grit, size or intimidation up front)

And he’s not the only dman who looks lost

I’ll go with he was never that good to begin with. A 6/7 at best but because he can fight he was overhyped on these boards.

 

[WinterLion]

Maybe Kirby Dach isn't that good?

 

[HuGo Sham]

I’ll go with he was never that good to begin with. A 6/7 at best but because he can fight he was overhyped on these boards.

I’ll go with He’s 23 and has 100 nhl games. I’ll preach patience and coach that trusts him

 

[Rapala]

Feel terrible for @Grate n Colorful Oz who put in a herculean effort on the GDT. He deserved better.

We're used to the game falling short of the GDT efforts buddy.
I'd hate to guess how many you did in the past two years that surpassed the product on the ice.

 

[Chili]

Team hasn't been the same since they traded Sean Monahan. In fairness to the players, management could give them some help, they have been very passive. If Matheson is out for a while, interested to see what they do.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Ok so talk to me about this James Hagens kid

Porter Martone!

 

[HuGo Sham]

Porter Martone!

 

[Habano]

Porter Martone!

Either one!

 

[HuGo Sham]

Team hasn't been the same since they traded Sean Monahan. In fairness to the players, management could give them some help, they have been very passive. If Matheson is out for a while, interested to see what they do.

Stabilizing veteran C with some offensive skill. Unlike Evans and Dvorak

 

[Habby4Life]

I’ll go with He’s 23 and has 100 nhl games. I’ll preach patience and coach that trusts him

Will that same patience apply to Justin Barron?

Wifi isn’t an everyday nhl D, it’s obvious, the guy is a dumpster fire most nights.

 

[Hoochi Papa]

True,

It's shocking.

And come contract time Kent is gonna get bent over.

Kent better sign him the very minute he's eligible for extension. It will be eight figures a year and hopefully he doesn't try any shenanigans.

I wonder what they do with Kirby Dach. Right now it doesn't look like he's worth a long-term commitment. He is super rusty but I wish Habs would look for a top-6 center. At the free agency or via trade. He's so far away for being good enough to lead contender's 2nd line.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Will that same patience apply to Justin Barron?

Wifi isn’t an everyday nhl D, it’s obvious.

Maybe. Comes down to what the team needs on D. It’s possible 3 of these guys aren’t everyday D. Yet . And savard looks washed up. Defenseman take years to develop. I guess they can sit arber and let him rot until one of the other 31 teams trades for him. Then we can all complain again for 20 years about how baby shit soft the team is in all 3 zones

 

[Tyson]

All we should want during a rebuild is a glimpse of progress and a damn effort. Where is the leadership?

 

[1909]

Losing two games in a row at HOME…. And the way they did it. It is very concerning.

 

[Gravity]

It's almost like we the have the same need we did in 2022 when we finished dead last.....an elite 1C to challenge/dethrone Suzuki.

 

[Tyson]

All I can say after that is……Go Laval Rocket.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Maybe Kirby Dach isn't that good?

The guy who didn't play all last year is the reason this team looks awful? He gets a pass.

 

[1909]

Maybe. Comes down to what the team needs on D. It’s possible 3 of these guys aren’t everyday D. And savard looks washed up. Defenseman take years to develop. I guess they can sit arber and let him rot until one of the other 31 teams trades for him. Then we can all complain again for 20 years about how baby shit soft the team is in all 3 zones

In the meantime, in NJ, Kovacevic is playing top-four….

 

[VT]

A few questions...

1. only Suzuki plays like a top 6 player, the other centers like 4th line players (Dach for objective reasons), from d-men have a sense of combination, first pass only Hutson and Guhle (Matheson is injured in that game, at least according minutes). So how do you want to keep the puck? The centers' and d-men play is basic.
2. When 4/5 forwards have a shot a la "I'll shoot and hopefully hit the net", you expect goals?
3. When only Guhle and Savard have a sense of positioning on defense and even that David needs to be pushed? A quality defense?

Honestly, even in Columbus, your team would only be the first line, and Guhle and Hutson on defense. With only Suzuki and Caufield in the top 6. Although Johnson only plays third line because of improving the third line offense , otherwise he's a top 6 player.

In defense even only Guhle and Hutson, with neither first pair, there are Werenski and Provorov.

Age is still important, experienced players with a sense of combination know how to play if there are problems with their play. You have only Gallagher and Armia, but Brendan plays with players who prefer vertical hockey.

Also your team is too young.

Btw, teams did not play too much games, so even if they play back-to back games players are not tired. And Armia in the second line is tragedy. Even Mathieu Olivier would be better.

Look, you have good team, but Dach must return his play. When Nyquist did not play the whole 2020/21 season, he returned his play only in November 2021. And without it you the second line will be maximum something between 3rd and 4th line.

 

[Tyson]

I think it's time to show patience with Justin Barron...he is progressing

 

[HuGo Sham]

In the meantime, in NJ, Kovacevic is playing top-four….

Not surprising. Better forwards and goaltending. Better team around him

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

HUTSON BABY

 

[OnTheRun]

Maybe Kirby Dach isn't that good?

He hasn't been good enough so far this season and it shouldn't be completely unexpected in his case. Whether or not he will become the guy this team need remain an unanswered question.