Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to Canucks.

[Boss Man Hughes]

I’ve never heard of that high of a ceiling for the kid. Even Kent said he was a 2nd pairing dman. When was he compared to a great dman like AP?

I think he probably said his floor is a 2nd pairing d.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Caufield needs a guy that can set him up. Dvorak is not that guy. I'd try switching Dvorak with Monahan next game

 

[NORiculous]

I’ve never heard of that high of a ceiling for the kid. Even Kent said he was a 2nd pairing dman. When was he compared to a great dman like AP?

Some people on the board “forgot” Kent said that, probably to forget that Michkov currently has 20 pts in 22 games in the KHL.

Offensive dynamo ignored in order to draft a “safe pick”.

 

[LesCanadiens]

It's an idea but not easy for a player to do. Brett Burns could do both but he isn't great in the defensive zone. Ideally Habs will end up with 6 d who are good to very good defensively. They could put Hutson on the bottom pairing with a good defensive defenseman and have him play point on the PP.

Mark Streit was decent as a forward. Marc Andre Bergeron was ok too. It can happen....but I hear ya.

 

[NORiculous]

I think he probably said his floor is a 2nd pairing d.

No, he said his ceiling was 2nd D. (Not a 1st)

So that most likely puts him on the 2nd pair, unless everything magically falls into place.

Caufield needs a guy that can set him up. Dvorak is not that guy. I'd try switching Dvorak with Monahan next game

Dvorak should be traded ASAP.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Michkov is going to be good so what. He's not with us. Reinbacher is. If we keep dwelling on it, we'll never be able to win and let our guys develop. We need to accept our decisions and move on

 

[Habs]

Good game by Slaf, Guhle, the 4th line so it's still a win.

 

[NORiculous]

Michkov is going to be good so what. He's not with us. Reinbacher is. If we keep dwelling on it, we'll never be able to win and let our guys develop. We need to accept our decisions and move on

No we don’t.

We can cheer for Reinbacher when he is on the team but still protest the “unanimous” decision to pick him.

 

[MasterMatt25]

No we don’t.

We can cheer for Reinbacher when he is on the team but still protest the “unanimous” decision to pick him.

But its unfair to compare two guys who play different positions and different types of games. Let Reinbacher grow into his own thing. I wanted Michkov too, but the past couple cup champs were built on strong defense. If Reinbacher can be a top pairing RD, and Hutson can be what he's hyped to be, and Guhle/Barron keep getting better, it's a position of strength and then we can go get the required offense we need.

 

[OnTheRun]

Some people on the board “forgot” Kent said that, probably to forget that Michkov currently has 20 pts in 22 games in the KHL.

Offensive dynamo ignored in order to draft a “safe pick”.

Probably because he didn't really said that.

"Probably a D2, I'm not sure he's going to run a first power play in the NHL. I mean I'm not big on putting number to player be... D1...D2... You know there power play dman in the NHL, is he your #1? Or is it somebody that, you know, shut the play down in one end and launching the attack on the other end. So I think he has the potential to log very significant minutes for our team." That's what he said.

 

[jrom]

I would put Caufield back with Slaf and Suzuki.

Also, what is so special about the Monahan, Gallagher and Pearson line that they can't be broken up?

I would try switching Dvorak & Monahan and also give a chance to Newhook, he's just 22 and he probably also would benefit from a few games away of Anderson

Slaf - Suzuki - Anderson (MSL will keep him in the top6 until he pots a few)
Caufield - Monahan - Newhook
Pearson - Dvorak - Gally

 

[Guess]

If Reinbacher develops into a #1D (Pietrangelo etc), disagree with that statement - IMO the most difficult position to fill and the most vital position for a Cup team is a minute eating 1D who can play all situations PK, PP, late period / game

I don't think even Hughes predicts Reinbacher to be a 1D, based on what he said in draft interviews.

just got back from the game.
Upper bowl is where all the true blue loonies are.
It's f***ing amazing how much we miss Dach, and how much his absence is a reminder we're missing two killers in the top 6.
When you watch the game live, the speed becomes that much more impressive.. Hockey is this chaotic chase game, and there seems to be two kinds of effective forwards (yes i'm simplifying it) guys who have that vision to slow it down a split second - and can pass or score -
or those who time after time will sacrifice their bodies for dirty goals. Deflections, rebounds etc..
Canucks have a few more of these guys, especially the former, while in Dach's absence, Slaf, Newhook, Anderson all look a little more lost when forced to drive play.
anyway just a thought.
Caufield was mostly invisible and shouldn't be playing with a guy like Dvorak. That's absurd.
The D will eventually be very good. Matheson is a clown in the defensive zone, guhle is terrific but he needs to stop playing like his balls are on fire all game and learn to protect himself a bit better. Was super impressed with Barron, who's showing a lot of poise. Arber and Harris were steady but Harris is still overmatched in the d zone when he's heavily forechecked.
First goal was busted coverage and the goal Allen lost his stick on was such a dumb play. There was time to get his stick back to him but lack of communication with the dmen.
Anyway just some of my amateur observations. The 'Nucks are very beatable, the dumb offside call (caufield again) and the subsequent second goal was a nut punch.
Look, they very clearly play for Marty and it's obvious it's a tight nit group. I can see some of MSL's creativity at work as he encourages them to try new things.
We still (mostly) suck at breakouts but they have some cohesion through the neutral zone and try new things, but we're at least a Dach and another 30 goal scorer away from the WC spot

Habs gonna have to trade for a few top 6 forwards, then we be good as long as they didn't overpay

 

[ReHabs]

But its unfair to compare two guys who play different positions and different types of games. Let Reinbacher grow into his own thing. I wanted Michkov too, but the past couple cup champs were built on strong defense. If Reinbacher can be a top pairing RD, and Hutson can be what he's hyped to be, and Guhle/Barron keep getting better, it's a position of strength and then we can go get the required offense we need.

Every cup winner has offensive skill players which the Habs do not have.

 

[HuGort]

What's with us and all these broken skate blades? I say go back to solid skate. Going to cost us a game at some point. Can see it coming. The hell with rechangeable blades

 

[Habssince89]

Technically the truth: The Montreal Canadiens have a top10 powerplay in the NHL

 

[JianYang]

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Yo, that's my move bro

Technically the truth: The Montreal Canadiens have a top10 powerplay in the NHL

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Don't they have multiple PP goals called off from offside too?

Either way, it feels like a mirage.... They still don't have a QB, and I still think they have too much difficulty with entries.

 

[salbutera]

I don't think even Hughes predicts Reinbacher to be a 1D, based on what he said in draft interviews.

GMs, especially in a Cdn market will downplay to manage expectations - under commit / over deliver strategy.

 

[ReHabs]

Not sure why he is still on the PP at all. The only reasonable explanation is that he is Molson's bastard.

He's literally a Kent Hughes client. Dude doesn't need to brown nose to get every opportunity to succeed.

GMs, especially in a Cdn market will downplay to manage expectations - under commit / over deliver strategy.

They need to work on the "over deliver" part, big time.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

First time Slaf gets 6 on 5 time and he coughs the puck up for an empty net. Hopefully he keeps getting chances, these points don't matter this year.

Everyone was crapping on Suzuki to start the year but the split so far seems to indicate he is the one that stirs the Suzuki-Caufield drink.

Small sample and previous seasons stats tell a different story as Cole got 2/3 of his goals without Suzuki assisting.

Cole is also stuck with two offensive blackholes, which skews the sample.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Caufield is great when he has time and space like PP and OT, has limitations 5 on 5 and will need to be surrounded properly.

And yet he's still top 5 in 5vs5 G60 since MSL came in, with Suzuki and Dach assisting not even half his goals (both assisted on some of the same CC goals). He's been one of our best 5vs5 producers.

 

[BLONG7]

Habs need to stop this bullshit goalie rotation. Give one of them reigns. Send Allen to AHL, FFS. Not like anyone's going to claim him.

Both other guys were lights out there last outings, so what do we do? We go to Allen, and we lose.

Said all along, the 3 goalies does not work. Just wait until one of them complains, and there goes the neighborhood.
Let's go Kent, you are up....

 

[sandviper]

Slaf - Monahan - Caufield

Do it Marty!

 

[Natey]

Honestly being there live, it was a closer game than the scoreboard shows.

Both teams looked tired as well.

Slafkovsky was easily the best player on the ice, I'd wager Newhook and Pearson played well too.

Both other guys were lights out there last outings, so what do we do? We go to Allen, and we lose.

Said all along, the 3 goalies does not work. Just wait until one of them complains, and there goes the neighborhood.
Let's go Kent, you are up....

Well let one of them complain and get rid of that one. None of them are good enough to be complaining. But none of them are bad enough to not get chances.

 

[Gillings]

First time Slaf gets 6 on 5 time and he coughs the puck up for an empty net. Hopefully he keeps getting chances, these points don't matter this year.

Everyone was crapping on Suzuki to start the year but the split so far seems to indicate he is the one that stirs the Suzuki-Caufield drink.

Because cole needs a true set up man. His skills are good enough alone to put up some points but he’s frustrated as a hockey player, he’s not used to not having superior teammates to him to help him finish his plays. And hes not used to the competition being so difficult as a small guy. He’s still young too..

 

[ReHabs]

Because cole needs a true set up man. His skills are good enough alone to put up some points but he’s frustrated as a hockey player, he’s not used to not having superior teammates to him to help him finish his plays. And hes not used to the competition being so difficult as a small guy. He’s still young too..

Imagine prime Joe Thornton with Cole Caufield?