Value of: Habs First Pick

[ole ole]

Maybe you will be worried in 5 years when you still haven't made the playoffs and he's lighting it up on another team.

You get a chance to aquire a big, mean centre who puts up points (and francophone to boot) and then sell him long term on your franchise, you take it. Even if it costs you assets.

It's not like the Habs have 5 PLDs sitting around.

It's odd how fans of such a shitty team are so blasé about landing such a rare, coveted piece. Jets fans would almost give up their collective left nut to keep the guy and Habs fans (again, to reiterate, cheer for a shit team) don't seem to care if they get the guy

Maybe we won't be worried in 5 yr s when we are a contending team with PLD in our lineup and the assets in which you wanted us to give up are also in our line up.
Remember that same shitty bounced your team out of the playoffs so what's that say about your team.

How about Philly offers Carter Hart for Montreal 1st pick in 2023 which might be as high as 5th overall and some prospect(not sure which one at this time). Montreal gets a 24 year old starter for years to come and they would still retain their Florida pick in the same draft.

Not interested as a Hab fan.

 

[ole ole]

"We love our 2C who has put up 12 goals this year and won't trade him for the opportunity to sign a guy who already has 2X that much this year and who at the same numerous of NHL games as dach had put up 158 points vs dach's 94"

Especially since he's coming for free.

 

[Qwijibo]

Funny, I think the short term future for the Jets is the playoffs. I know you can't relate, and that's ok. Maybe if you're lucky it will be in the long term future for you. No guarantees tho. Ask Sabres fans how the perpetual tank process is going

I wouldn’t count those playoff chickens just yet. Nashville is only 4 points back with 3 games in hand. Regardless. Hughes has done nothing but improve the teams long term outlook since taking over. PLD is an attractive target but don’t expect to extort Montreal and hit a home run in a trade

 

[Qwijibo]

How about Philly offers Carter Hart for Montreal 1st pick in 2023 which might be as high as 5th overall and some prospect(not sure which one at this time). Montreal gets a 24 year old starter for years to come and they would still retain their Florida pick in the same draft.

Hart isn’t worth 6th oa. Not even close. Look at the history of goalie trades. They seldom return anything substantial

 

[Buffdog]

I wouldn’t count those playoff chickens just yet. Nashville is only 4 points back with 3 games in hand. Regardless. Hughes has done nothing but improve the teams long term outlook since taking over. PLD is an attractive target but don’t expect to extort Montreal and hit a home run in a trade

Asking for fair value isn't extortion

Especially since he's coming for free.

We will see. You sound like that Red Wings poster who was 100% positive Trouba was gonna sign there because he knew trouba's mom's hairstylist or something. We know how that went lol.

I'll laugh my ass off when he becomes a Bruin or a Leaf if Matthews walks.

 

[ole ole]

Asking for fair value isn't extortion


We will see. You sound like that Red Wings poster who was 100% positive Trouba was gonna sign there because he knew trouba's mom's hairstylist or something. We know how that went lol.

I'll laugh my ass off when he becomes a Bruin or a Leaf if Matthews walks.

And when he becomes a Hab?

 

[Casual]

Well I would suggest that if you see fellow hab fans making crazy over evaluations of your teams players you should step up and call them out, instead of letting others prop them up, and encourage that kind of behaviour. Sort of like the montebault being elite, or Hutson being the best dman not playing in the NHL, or ignoring what people are saying and throwing out the lame old excuse of…they just hate the Habs line. Allowing those things to go on and on and on looks bad on the fan base. It’s like having a kid that does something wrong and their parents just let it slide.

Yet, you didn’t call out the guy that said Hart would be worth a top 5 pick. I went in your post history… seems like you lurk around Habs threads to spread negativity.

I haven’t seen anybody say Hutson was the best Dman not in the NHL. What is being said is that he had the best freshman season since Leetch point wise, which is true, but the major question mark around him is his height. Also, the debate around his real height is stupid.
Is there any delusional fan that thinks we have Makar 2.0? Might be, but I haven’t seen one.

Every single fanbase overevaluates their prospect, not just Mtl fans. Always has been. It goes both ways though. Other fans always undervalue the prospects of other teams, even if they haven’t really paid attention to them. I’ll roll my eyes out loud for fans from every fanbase that speak nonsense.
If a bunch of lunatics trigger you that much, you should learn to let it go, and see it as funny instead.

 

[CanadienShark]

How about Philly offers Carter Hart for Montreal 1st pick in 2023 which might be as high as 5th overall and some prospect(not sure which one at this time). Montreal gets a 24 year old starter for years to come and they would still retain their Florida pick in the same draft.

Wow. That is truly one of the most absurd offers I've heard in a long while. Hart isn't worth the Florida pick, let alone the Habs. Get out of here with this nonsense.

EDIT: and you want more on top? Dude.... Change your name to "Drunk Goggles."

 

[CanadienShark]

Is their goalie worth using a top 15 pick on?

Namely that Panthers pick around 15th overall? I haven’t seen one rated that highly.

Would you trade that 15th pick + someone like Justin Barron for Saros?

I'd pass, but that isn't an absurd ask.

 

[VanP]

That seems like a pretty big overpay. Stanley doesn't have a ton of value left, so you're wanting a top 10 pick, Dach, and to swap the Jets pick for the Florida pick (dropping from early to mid teens to around 20). Seems like a hefty price to me.

We don’t want Dubois at that price, he will be free in a year

 

[HuGo Sham]

Why the hell would we trade a top 5 pick when we're full-on rebuilding? We're going to get the best player available, that's it.

narrator:

What happened to that ELITE 2A goalie Montembeault, that hab fans are betting the farm on? Given up on him or is he just gun shy from getting lite up?

this is a classic shitpost, but you might want to ask pens fans what he did to their team on Tuesday. He has less than 100 NHL games of experience and has good numbers with .331 and 905 sv% behind an AHL roster.
He's still young and has potential to at least be a quality backup.
But don't let factual reality get in the way of your gaslighting

 

[LVCarson]

Yet, you didn’t call out the guy that said Hart would be worth a top 5 pick. I went in your post history… seems like you lurk around Habs threads to spread negativity.

I haven’t seen anybody say Hutson was the best Dman not in the NHL. What is being said is that he had the best freshman season since Leetch point wise, which is true, but the major question mark around him is his height. Also, the debate around his real height is stupid.
Is there any delusional fan that thinks we have Makar 2.0? Might be, but I haven’t seen one.

Every single fanbase overevaluates their prospect, not just Mtl fans. Always has been. It goes both ways though. Other fans always undervalue the prospects of other teams, even if they haven’t really paid attention to them. I’ll roll my eyes out loud for fans from every fanbase that speak nonsense.
If a bunch of lunatics trigger you that much, you should learn to let it go, and see it as funny instead.

I am not a Philly fan and follow their posters too closely, so its not really my place to govern the occasional bad poster (every fan base have a couple I am sure) but Montreal in my opinion has by far the most posters that make these boards unusable. I have spoken to at least 30 other people from my group of friends, coworkers, or people I talk to when I am at the home games, that just don’t come here anymore, due to keyboard warriors. Funny enough when you get into the details every single one mentioned Montreal fans are the top offenders. Others have mentioned that TML use to be bad years ago but because other fans keeping the crazy posters in line, they hardly come up in the conversations at all.

It’s really too bad cause this board has some good posters and information, but it is getting to be not worth the time.

Oh and by the way, I am not a Habs hater, (my uncle played for them for 12+ years so they were by default the family fav)…I am a hater of the Hab fan base that gives the team a bad image, and make these boards unusable. It is embarrassing.

 

[CanadienShark]

I am not a Philly fan and follow their posters too closely, so its not really my place to govern the occasional bad poster (every fan base have a couple I am sure) but Montreal in my opinion has by far the most posters that make these boards unusable. I have spoken to at least 30 other people from my group of friends, coworkers, or people I talk to when I am at the home games, that just don’t come here anymore, due to keyboard warriors. Funny enough when you get into the details every single one mentioned Montreal fans are the top offenders. Others have mentioned that TML use to be bad years ago but because other fans keeping the crazy posters in line, they hardly come up in the conversations at all.

It’s really too bad cause this board has some good posters and information, but it is getting to be not worth the time.

Oh and by the way, I am not a Habs hater, (my uncle played for them for 12+ years so they were by default the family fav)…I am a hater of the Hab fan base that gives the team a bad image, and make these boards unusable. It is embarrassing.

... This seems totally unnecessary. I'm pretty certain you've never visited the Habs board with this sort of an opinion. Every fanbase here has bad apples. Every fanbase has really good posters.

 

[waitin425]

I don't know. Unless the guy we want at 6 is completely a wild card and likely available later in the draft, maybe I'd do something like.... This would be incumbent on the Blues really wanting someone at 6. Draft floor deal only.

6th + 70th

to St Louis for

8th + 27th + 29th

Habs pick 8th + 15th + 27th + 29th + 38th

 

[beowulf]

How are their rumours of any team going off the board when no one knows the draft order and the draft is months away, with both teams and prospects still playing?

If a team already knows who they are drafting in mid-March that may be a problem of its own lol

Because it's BS made up by the OP.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I don't know. Unless the guy we want at 6 is completely a wild card and likely available later in the draft, maybe I'd do something like.... This would be incumbent on the Blues really wanting someone at 6. Draft floor deal only.

6th + 70th

to St Louis for

8th + 27th + 29th

Habs pick 8th + 15th + 27th + 29th + 38th

You wouldn't be able to get both 27 and 29 to move down from 6 to 8.

Last year, in a weaker draft (and not in the top 10) it only cost Arizona picks 34 and 45 to move up from 27 to 11.

 

[Casual]

I am not a Philly fan and follow their posters too closely, so its not really my place to govern the occasional bad poster (every fan base have a couple I am sure) but Montreal in my opinion has by far the most posters that make these boards unusable. I have spoken to at least 30 other people from my group of friends, coworkers, or people I talk to when I am at the home games, that just don’t come here anymore, due to keyboard warriors. Funny enough when you get into the details every single one mentioned Montreal fans are the top offenders. Others have mentioned that TML use to be bad years ago but because other fans keeping the crazy posters in line, they hardly come up in the conversations at all.

It’s really too bad cause this board has some good posters and information, but it is getting to be not worth the time.

Oh and by the way, I am not a Habs hater, (my uncle played for them for 12+ years so they were by default the family fav)…I am a hater of the Hab fan base that gives the team a bad image, and make these boards unusable. It is embarrassing.

The bigger the fanbase, the bigger the chance you have of being overwhelmed by a few individuals running their mouth. I do despise people that make other fans look bad.
As for Toronto fans, they've become the laughing stock of the board over the years because of a few individuals. They are being put in their place more than anyone. I agree that started to get them in line. Montreal is also getting at that point. I agree with that.

Personally, I just learnt to stay out of some threads that are bound to be toxic. That improved my experience on these boards.

I'm glad we turned that misunderstanding around in a few posts! I don't know why I was that triggered, probably the sleep deprivation, courtesy of my 5 months old baby!

 

[JRichard]

... This seems totally unnecessary. I'm pretty certain you've never visited the Habs board with this sort of an opinion. Every fanbase here has bad apples. Every fanbase has really good posters.

This place would be dead without the intense Habs thread starters.
Today close to half the active threads on main board are habs-related: Habs first pick, Josh Anderson, Hart to Habs, Habs yard sale. Same goes on Prospect board. They activate any prospect who scores a goal in Denmark…

gotta use their main board more. Feels like they are looking for fights.

thing is they ask 10 times more than they are asked. Wait for someone to ask for Anderson before shopping the guy in here.

 

[HuGort]

I don't know. Unless the guy we want at 6 is completely a wild card and likely available later in the draft, maybe I'd do something like.... This would be incumbent on the Blues really wanting someone at 6. Draft floor deal only.

6th + 70th

to St Louis for

8th + 27th + 29th

Habs pick 8th + 15th + 27th + 29th + 38th

That be good deal. Something like that is what I was thinking about in opening post

 

[Fainting Couch]

Could see mesar make sense, but more likely that they go after Dubois with the Florida pick as part of a package

If I were the GM I would turn this offer down because it did not include 18 eggs and I forgot to pick up eggs today.

 

[HuGort]

If Michkov still available at 5 Habs probably get big haul to trade down. No doubt there is GMs in love with Michkov

 

[ole ole]

Maybe you will be worried in 5 years when you still haven't made the playoffs and he's lighting it up on another team.

You get a chance to aquire a big, mean centre who puts up points (and francophone to boot) and then sell him long term on your franchise, you take it. Even if it costs you assets.

It's not like the Habs have 5 PLDs sitting around.

It's odd how fans of such a shitty team are so blasé about landing such a rare, coveted piece. Jets fans would almost give up their collective left nut to keep the guy and Habs fans (again, to reiterate, cheer for a shit team) don't seem to care if they get the guy

Your a fan of a shitty team so what's the difference?
Fact 1-PLD is NOT resigning with the Jets.
Fact 2-PLD value will be that of a RENTAL
Fact 3-PLD will be TESTING the FA market.
Fact 4- PLD has STATED he has some interest in playing for the Habs.
Fact 5- PLD will determine where he will play in 2 yrs NOT THE JETS OR THEIR FANS.
Fact 6- Because of all of the above PLD true market value has taken a MAJOR HIT.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Dubois, Stanley, Jets 1st for Habs 1st, Florida 1st, Dach (or similar center potential player)

Since Peg and Florida’s pick is almost the same. Take them out.

Dach + 6th overall for Dubois is an overpay by the Habs IMO.

Maybe Dach + 15th for Dubois + Heinola? Could make value work given how good the Habs farm is. But Dubois is a year from UFA so his value is affected by that.

Dach is simply not going anywhere. Sorry

 

[Hunter368]

Posters better take the tone down a couple notches if they want to remain part of this thread and not earn a infraction. Friendly warning, next one will simply be thread ban & infraction. I don't who started it, next troll post or flaming post vs a team, city or poster is gone.

Fictional trade threads people chill out, if you can't handle posting on the main boards respectfully go back to your team board. Don't care what team you follow.

 

[HuGort]

5th overall for Dubois and Jets 17th? Good trade.
5th and Florida first to Detroit if Michkov still there for Raymond, Wings first?