Value of: Habs First Pick

[Gabe Kupari]

Since Peg and Florida’s pick is almost the same. Take them out.

Dach + 6th overall for Dubois is an overpay by the Habs IMO.

Maybe Dach + 15th for Dubois + Heiona.

I'm not sure it is honestly. The French Canadian center Montreal craves really.

But who knows

 

[Xirik]

If Bratt doesn't sign a contract before the draft I wonder if the Habs would be up for trading a pick + for Bratt who is an RFA.

Habs negotiate a long term contract with Bratt and get a player that they would hope their 6th OV pick would turn into and the Devils get something from a bad situation and hopefully get a good player in a couple years on their ELC to help with the cap situation during their playoff/cup window.

 

[Colezuki]

I'm not sure it is honestly. The French Canadian center Montreal craves really.

But who knows

Well then we’ll just wait one more year

If Bratt doesn't sign a contract before the draft I wonder if the Habs would be up for trading a pick + for Bratt who is an RFA.

Habs negotiate a long term contract with Bratt and get a player that they would hope their 6th OV player would turn into and the Devils get something from a bad situation and hopefully get a good player in a couple years on their ELC to help with the cap situation during their playoff/cup window.

What’s he looking for cap wise?

 

[McJedi]

I'm not sure it is honestly. The French Canadian center Montreal craves really.

But who knows

He’s a UFA next offseason. If I’m Hughes, I ain’t overpaying. But they don’t need Dach as much if they get Dubois so he’d be a good base asset. And you don’t need to add a high lottery pick in that circumstances. Dach + Mesar for Dubois + Heinola seems fair value wise. Heinola ain’t getting his shot in Peg.

Well then we’ll just wait one more year


What’s he looking for cap wise?

There will be other teams after him though. A team like the Avs could go after Dubois.

 

[Colezuki]

He’s a UFA next offseason. If I’m Hughes, I ain’t overpaying. But they don’t need Dach as much if they get Dubois so he’d be a good base asset. And you don’t need to add a high lottery pick in the circumstances.

Counterpoint to this though, they keep dach and run back the caufield dach Suzuki line next year which was a buzz saw until we lost Monahan and had to split them up. Trade something else for Dubois and the 2nd line is big and heavy and has played together before in Dubois and Anderson

 

[Xirik]

Well then we’ll just wait one more year


What’s he looking for cap wise?

$8.5-9,5 I'm guessing depending on the length. Probably 6-7 years as it sounds like he wants to be able to get the nice "ride off into the sunset" contract in his early 30s

 

[McJedi]

Counterpoint to this though, they keep dach and run back the caufield dach Suzuki line next year which was a buzz saw until we lost Monahan and had to split them up. Trade something else for Dubois and the 2nd line is big and heavy and has played together before in Dubois and Anderson

Dach is a C. Suzuki is a C. Dubois is a C. Too many Cs. Not enough Ws in the top six.

 

[Colezuki]

He’s a UFA next offseason. If I’m Hughes, I ain’t overpaying. But they don’t need Dach as much if they get Dubois so he’d be a good base asset. And you don’t need to add a high lottery pick in that circumstances. Dach + Mesar for Dubois + Heinola seems fair value wise. Heinola ain’t getting his shot in Peg.


There will be other teams after him though. A team like the Avs could go after Dubois.

Absolutely, but the argument has been forum jets fans they’ll overpay because he’s French, neglecting the team is run by an Anglo and a guy from boston

$8.5-9,5 I'm guessing depending on the length. Probably 6-7 years as it sounds like he wants to be able to get the nice "ride off into the sunset" contract in his early 30s

Could be a backup if the Dubois plan doesn’t work out,

Dach is a C. Suzuki is a C. Dubois is a C. Too many Cs. Not enough Ws in the top six.

Dach played wing with caufield and Suzuki about 10 games in and they were phenomenal, they may look to reunite that or just have three good c’s generally

 

[McJedi]

Absolutely, but the argument has been forum jets fans they’ll overpay because he’s French, neglecting the team is run by an Anglo and a guy from boston


Could be a backup if the Dubois plan doesn’t work out,


Dach played wing with caufield and Suzuki about 10 games in and they were phenomenal, they may look to reunite that or just have three good c’s generally

Hughes is a good GM IMO. He won’t overpay when his back isn’t against the wall. It’s not in this case.

I got no dog in this right but I like the Habs leverage better than Pegs in this case. So I’m agreeing with you.

The one thing the Habs do need to worry about is Dubois will have huge value as a rental next season. And a team like Boston, Colorado, Dallas, Carolina or Toronto could make a move on him at the deadline. And then try to resign him after a long playoff run.

He may just settle into a team this way that does make him not run right to Montreal as a UFA.

I don’t think he’ll resign in Peg. But with a contender? That’s a different story.

 

[Coffee]

ALLEZ MONTREAL

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Been some rumours Habs may go off the board with their pick. Guy they like slated to go later in draft. Our pick currently sits at 6th. Wondering what it's value would be to trade down? Ideally something between 8-25th. If a Team close to cap wants to move big contract. We have 20 million in caproom this summer. Could be a match?

Sens got Debrinkat for 7th last year, but this is better draft. Kings got Fiala for 19th. We could look this years version of similar trade. A first line forward plus 19th pick for the 6th? Or something basic like give us a 2nd for you to move up couple slots in draft?

To say Fiala went for just the 19th pick is disingenuous, Brock Faber was drafted at #45 in 2020, and has tracked quite well. Besides that, why would Montreal not want to add an ELC/young player with upside? Ottawa at last year's draft was well ahead of where Montreal is right now, as were the Kings.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Link to rumours?

There are no such rumours

 

[Xirik]

Could be a backup if the Dubois plan doesn’t work out,

The Devils definitely want to keep Bratt but his agent has been playing hardball for two years and hasn't even gotten back to the GM Fitzgerald about the recent offer he gave. The GM is also trying hard to instill the bruins way of thinking of "if everyone takes a bit of a paycut we can be a better team" Obviously not everyone wants to buy into that and that's totally fair. Fitz doesn't want to pay any player more then Hughes at $8 million which is a hard stance to take.

I'm sure there would be other trade partners for Bratt but in any Bratt trade the Devils would end up the losers. Trading for a high 1st pick has the chance of getting back the most value but is also a gamble.

A Caufield-Suzuki-Bratt line or a Slafkovsky-Dach-Bratt line does sound pretty cool.

 

[BLNY]

There are no such rumours

Exactly. That was my underlying point.

 

[pth2]

There are no such rumours

Brian Wilde said something on the radio. That's the sum of the "rumors".

 

[Gillings]

Dubois, Stanley, Jets 1st for Habs 1st, Florida 1st, Dach (or similar center potential player)

Are you high?

There are no such rumours

Brian Wilde, TSN, March 6th

You won’t like who the habs like.

Wilde: You're not going to like who the Habs like

Brian Wilde has some insight as to who the Habs like in the upcoming draft this summer and you may not like what you hear

www.tsn.ca

 

[HuGo Sham]

If Bratt doesn't sign a contract before the draft I wonder if the Habs would be up for trading a pick + for Bratt who is an RFA.

Habs negotiate a long term contract with Bratt and get a player that they would hope their 6th OV pick would turn into and the Devils get something from a bad situation and hopefully get a good player in a couple years on their ELC to help with the cap situation during their playoff/cup window.

wait, which pick? there's 0 chance Montreal is trading their top 10 pick for a smallish winger who will 25 next season.
And i know he's on pace for 30 goals this season

The Devils definitely want to keep Bratt but his agent has been playing hardball for two years and hasn't even gotten back to the GM Fitzgerald about the recent offer he gave. The GM is also trying hard to instill the bruins way of thinking of "if everyone takes a bit of a paycut we can be a better team" Obviously not everyone wants to buy into that and that's totally fair. Fitz doesn't want to pay any player more then Hughes at $8 million which is a hard stance to take.

I'm sure there would be other trade partners for Bratt but in any Bratt trade the Devils would end up the losers. Trading for a high 1st pick has the chance of getting back the most value but is also a gamble.

A Caufield-Suzuki-Bratt line or a Slafkovsky-Dach-Bratt line does sound pretty cool.

and somehow the Habs are going to break the bank for Bratt (when they have to pay caufield) and gift NJ another high 1st? Never going to happen.
Mtl is fine on the wings and Hughes wants size. They'll keep the pick and draft the C or D. They will use their second pick possibly in a PLD trade

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Are you high?


Brian Wilde, TSN, March 6th

You won’t like who the habs like.

Wilde: You're not going to like who the Habs like

Brian Wilde has some insight as to who the Habs like in the upcoming draft this summer and you may not like what you hear

www.tsn.ca

Wilde isn't a TSN employee, and he's not credible. As far as I know, he never broke any habs news.
He said today that the player he was talking about is Reinbarcher. It's obvious his source is Hughes mentioning in his press conference that he's going to Switzerland. Wilde's comment literally came 3 days after Hughes said that lol.

Even putting his lack of credibility aside, the fact that he thinks the habs know who they will pick when the habs don't even know when they will pick and haven't even compiled their final list tells you about how dumb Wilde's comment is.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

How are their rumours of any team going off the board when no one knows the draft order and the draft is months away, with both teams and prospects still playing?

If a team already knows who they are drafting in mid-March that may be a problem of its own lol

Have you not seen the Habs drafting record over the last dozen years? I think they read the mid-season Hockey news prospect article and pick from there.
Montreal looks like a team that is trying to be too smart for their own good. Passed on a potential 1st line center to draft a winger 1st overall last year and now talking about going off the board in the 1st this year? Good times.

 

[Frank Drebin]

We will give you pick 15 for 6, straight up.

Deal, we have had better luck outside of the top 5 (Guhle, Caulfield, Sergachev) than in it (Koko, Galchenyuk...too early for Serg)

 

[Frank Drebin]

Since Peg and Florida’s pick is almost the same. Take them out.

Dach + 6th overall for Dubois is an overpay by the Habs IMO.

Maybe Dach + 15th for Dubois + Heinola? Could make value work given how good the Habs farm is. But Dubois is a year from UFA so his value is affected by that.

Dach is not part of any deal for dubois.

 

[McJedi]

Dach is not part of any deal for dubois.

~15th (FL pick) and Mesar should be something they’d look at.

 

[Frank Drebin]

~15th (FL pick) and Mesar should be something they’d look at.

I'd rather rot towards the bottom of the standings next year and try to grab him as a UFA. Winnipeg is likely to get a similar or better return from another team if they want to ship him off as a TDL rental. We're not at the point where we should be adding impact veterans at the cost of picks and prospects yet. Other habs fans feel differently.

 

[Lockin17]

About Detroit ?
If they really want a player at #6

Habs : #6
for
Detroit : #11 + NYI first pick #19

 

[Michoulicious]

Been some rumours Habs may go off the board with their pick. Guy they like slated to go later in draft. Our pick currently sits at 6th. Wondering what it's value would be to trade down? Ideally something between 8-25th. If a Team close to cap wants to move big contract. We have 20 million in caproom this summer. Could be a match?

Sens got Debrinkat for 7th last year, but this is better draft. Kings got Fiala for 19th. We could look this years version of similar trade. A first line forward plus 19th pick for the 6th? Or something basic like give us a 2nd for you to move up couple slots in draft?

A top 10 pick in this draft is worth A LOT.

A teens pick was the main piece to get Chychrun.

No way Montreal trades before the lottery anyways