Habs at the World Championships

[Estimated_Prophet]

Imagine comparing the international circuits of soccer and hockey. In soccer, you have talent dispersed across many leagues. In contrast, Gary Bettman owns basically all of the talent in hockey and he guards them from incurring injuries, scheduling conflicts, and insurance issues, among other things. As the boss of the owners, at the end of the day, their interests are all he cares for. Just imagine that we haven't seen Connor McDavid on the largest scale with the Canadian jersey on. And people say that bettman cant be blamed for the lack of interest from some of our best players to play in this pointless tournament. In the ,past we always had much better teams than this. The owners deserve alot of blame too but gary is more fun to pick on lol

This is utter nonsense....sorry but there is no other way to describe what you just said. It is the players who do not want to play and it is their right to not want to play in this Mickey Mouse tournament.

Claiming that Gary Bettman "owns all of the talent in hockey" is beyond absurd. If you feel compelled to blame anyone then blame the players as these decisions are entirely theirs and theirs alone. Personally, I don't blame anyone as this tournament is well below NHL standards and is hardly enticing for elite players to play in. Why risk injury in a tournament where they are not paid and they have to pay their own insurance for the reward of winning a tournament that has little prestige in North America?

Bettman has nothing to do with this.....you are just yelling at clouds.

 

[_habsfan9]

Once again, how does this in any remote way involve Bettman lol??

the head boss of the owners, gatekeeping the best players from playing in best on best action has dwindled any left interest in playing in this tournament.players would suit up for canada in hopes their participation would equal an opportunity on the olympic or world cup team. That is not the case anymore point blank disagree with me all you want bud

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

the head boss of the owners, gatekeeping the best players from playing in best on best action has dwindled any left interest in playing in this tournament.

He is not the "head boss of the owners" lol......they are his bosses and he does their bidding. They can remove him at any time with a vote by the board of Governors. Bettman brings a busineess plan to the table that the board agrees to and that is how things work. Bettman doesn't unilaterally impose sanctions against an owner or owners and he doesn't force owners to kiss his ring at bended knee lol.. Bettman was hired by the owners to further their interests, and if it wasn't Gary Bettman it would be someone else.

You are entirely wrong on this and should find something real to direct your investigative urges towards.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Honestly, people blame Bettman for the most ridiculous stuff. It is amazing how entirely clueless most people are about his job and how they link him to draft/officiating conspiracy theories. Soon we will hear that he is harboring Bigfoot in his underground bunker along with alien space crafts and has Elvis on life support while he lip syncs Love Me Tender back to him.

After Covid and the Free Dumb convoy it is depressing to see so many people without an ounce of intelligence on full display.

I’m certain that Bettman is partly responsible for global warming.

 

[_habsfan9]

He is not the "head boss of the owners" lol......they are his bosses and he does their bidding. They can remove him at any time with a vote by the board of Governors. Bettman brings a busineess plan to the table that the board agrees to and that is how things work. Bettman doesn't unilaterally impose sanctions against an owner or owners and he doesn't force owners to kiss his ring at bended knee lol.. Bettman was hired by the owners to further their interests, and if it wasn't Gary Bettman it would be someone else.

You are entirely wrong on this and should find something real to direct your investigative urges towards.

you should learn to converse in a polite manner, have a good day sir

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

you should learn to converse in a polite manner, have a good day sir

I am blunt, if we were in person my tone would change how you perceive my message. No harm intended and I apologize if you were offended.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I love Gary Bettman

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Absolute garbage. Bettman is the boss. He is responsible for EVERYTHING. If it doesn't get fixed it is because he doesn't want it fixed. Even if he is clueless and doesn't know there is a problem his lieutenants should. Bettman is a cockroach.

Thank you for your always valuable contribution to the site....

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Thank you for your always valuable contribution to the site....

Yes it is. And my comments apply to the NHL. I am sure he doesn't care about World Champonships or Olympics unless it benefits the NHL.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Once again, how does this in any remote way involve Bettman lol??

Was Bettman involved with the decision to not have NHL players go to the Olympics?

PS - a quick Google search shows he was front and center. There's your answer.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Was Bettman involved with the decision to not have NHL players go to the Olympics?

PS - a quick Google search shows he was front and center. There's your answer.

Bettman represented the owners wishes, and that is entirely irrelevant to players not wanting to play a sub NHL level of hockey at the World Championships. Blaming Bettman is just irrational, none of these things are his decision to make. It is like blaming the lawyer for a corporation that has decided to sue you, Bettman is nothing more than an instrument that the Board of Governors use as they need to execute their collective agenda.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Imagine comparing the international circuits of soccer and hockey. In soccer, you have talent dispersed across many leagues. In contrast, Gary Bettman owns basically all of the talent in hockey and he guards them from incurring injuries, scheduling conflicts, and insurance issues, among other things. As the boss of the owners, at the end of the day, their interests are all he cares for. Just imagine that we haven't seen Connor McDavid on the largest scale with the Canadian jersey on. And people say that bettman cant be blamed for the lack of interest from some of our best players to play in this pointless tournament. In the ,past we always had much better teams than this. The owners deserve alot of blame too but gary is more fun to pick on lol

I think you have this in reverse: Bettman is not the ‘boss’ of the owners, he is elected by them and can be removed by them at anytime of their collective choosing. If the owners, the players’ association and the individual players want to participate, Bettman is powerless to prevent them. Players who want to play, are open to participate if selected. Those who chose to not, stay home.

 

[Adam Michaels]

if there was more emphasis on best on best play some of the better players would play for canada in this tournament no doubt.

This tournament is organized by the IIHF, not the NHL. The IIHF decides to hold this tournament this time of year, when the NHL Playoffs are on. So blaming Bettman for something he has zero control over is the wrong argument to make.

You expect him to tell the Oilers to continue on their playoff run without McDavid or Draisaitl because they need to go to the World Championship to represent Canada and Germany, respectively, because it needs to be best-on-best?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Was Bettman involved with the decision to not have NHL players go to the Olympics?

PS - a quick Google search shows he was front and center. There's your answer.

The NHL and NHLPA had agreed in their last CBA to let NHL players go to the Olympics. Bettman might be the face of the league as commissioner, he is not really the one running the show. Much like the head of the NHLPA represents the players, Bettman represents the owners. So whatever stance Bettman takes regarding international hockey, it is really the stance of his bosses, the 32 owners.

But whether Bettman/owners don't like to pause NHL hockey for international tournaments they don't have control over, they still acquiesced to the NHLPA's demand that NHL players participate at the Olympics.

However, the last Olympics were during the pandemic. That shortened season, a lot of NHL teams had to stop full operations for weeks at a time because of COVID outbreaks within the teams. The NHL had to make up the missed games and the only opening they had was the two weeks off they had allotted for the Olympic break. So the NHL and NHLPA agreed to forego Olympic participation last time around.

Keep in mind that even before they decided to forego the Olympics in 2022, there were a lot of players who had refused to go or had voiced concerns even if things weren't derailed by the rescheduling of NHL games. There were a bunch of conditions players had to respect if they opted to go. One of those conditions was they had to quarantine when they got to Beijing and then would have to quarantine when they would get back to North America.

The next Olympics are in February 2026, and the current CBA allowing Olympic participation will still be in effect. So we should get NHL players participating at the next Olympics.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I know France, USA & Canada revealed their rosters. Do we know if other countries named theirs yet?

I see some European teams are playing some friendlies in some tournaments. I don't know if they're like a camp and they will announce cuts or if they're their final rosters and just playing pre-tournament games.

Dichow was with Denmark in international friendlies.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Joel Armia is playing for Team Finland. No Lehkonen, but Rantanen is going. Lehks had injury issues this year, so not really surprised.

It's a pretty good team. Definitely will medal.

Team Finland:

 

[Adam Michaels]

So far:

Canada: Barron & Montembeault
USA: Farrell, Tuch & Hutson
Finland: Armia
Framce: Dube


I'm expecting Dichow to be there for Denmark. We know Slaf won't go for Slovakia, but not sure if Mesar will or not.

Marcotte says that Ylonen wouldn't go to the Worlds because he's without a contract and it would complicate things regarding insurance:



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Meanwhile, Jiricek won't go for Czechia:

 

[SwiftyHab]

Do we know what prospects we may draft that are going?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Do we know what prospects we may draft that are going?

Fantilli.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Adam Michaels]

Denmark has yet to officially announce their roster. But today, they're playing their final pre-tournament friendly against Slovenia. And Dichow is on the roster. In fact, he's been starting most of their friendlies leading up to the tournament. So it's expected that he will be another Hab at the Worlds.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is Dobes going for Czechia?

 

[Whitesnake]

That's Kevin Constantine? Geez...long time no see....

 

[Whitesnake]

Bad pass by Monty....1-0 Hungary.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]