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[Lupuls Grit]

He's expendable. Juulsen functions as the 4th guy on the right side and I doubt that Friedman on the left side is any more capable than Brannstrom or Wolanin. This is the easiest move in terms of saving some cap space; they still have 13F and 7D on the roster.

I think you are underestimating the importance of having solid depth in NHL-capable defenceman and overestimating Brannstrom and Wolanin as decent NHL options.

 

[sting101]

I don't know why but sometimes i focus so much on our forward group that i take for granted how special Quinn Hughes is.

I remember a co worker (who i played pretty high level hockey with) arguing with me about how tiny he was and doubting the pick (and i'm old school and love my big body guys but had already seen much of him)) We were going to the Czech USA game in Langley and i implored him to focus on how smart elusive and talented he was before casting judgement. By the end of the game he couldn't stop gushing about him and like me was convinced we had something special.

Getting to know the quality of person and now as a Captain and Norris winner you just have to tip the hat and sit back and watch a true hockey genius and ultimate competitor. As Canuck and hockey fans it's truly something special

 

[David71]

I don't know why but sometimes i focus so much on our forward group that i take for granted how special Quinn Hughes is.

I remember a co worker (who i played pretty high level hockey with) arguing with me about how tiny he was and doubting the pick (and i'm old school and love my big body guys but had already seen much of him)) We were going to the Czech USA game in Langley and i implored him to focus on how smart elusive and talented he was before casting judgement. By the end of the game he couldn't stop gushing about him and like me was convinced we had something special.

Getting to know the quality of person and now as a Captain and Norris winner you just have to tip the hat and sit back and watch a true hockey genius and ultimate competitor. As Canuck and hockey fans it's truly something special

we fans are juust lucky to have him on our team. despite his size everything he does is amazing. improves every year. his shot selections are better. i remember his first year he tried a slapshot but it wasn't strong enough to hit the net. he opted to do a wrister intead. but since last year hes been using his slapper quite a bit maybe not as powerful as say a shea weber hitting bombs for rebounds and for goals.

 

[Blue and Green]

I think you are underestimating the importance of having solid depth in NHL-capable defenceman and overestimating Brannstrom and Wolanin as decent NHL options.

Canucks are willing to lose him on waivers, which tells me that they aren't particularly concerned about having to replace him as the #8D.

 

[RandV]

I don't know why but sometimes i focus so much on our forward group that i take for granted how special Quinn Hughes is.

I remember a co worker (who i played pretty high level hockey with) arguing with me about how tiny he was and doubting the pick (and i'm old school and love my big body guys but had already seen much of him)) We were going to the Czech USA game in Langley and i implored him to focus on how smart elusive and talented he was before casting judgement. By the end of the game he couldn't stop gushing about him and like me was convinced we had something special.

Getting to know the quality of person and now as a Captain and Norris winner you just have to tip the hat and sit back and watch a true hockey genius and ultimate competitor. As Canuck and hockey fans it's truly something special

One thing I'm wondering if us Canuck fans are properly assessing here is we look at our blue line today and tend to call it 'poor', and hard not to with the mediocre 2nd & 3rd pairing, but as this is the first time the franchise has actually had an elite Norris caliber #1 how much of an impact does that have?

Traditionally in recent decades the Canucks have had a 'deep' blue line, but have always lacked that elite #1. Let's take 2013-14 for example, where we had 5 guys who would compete for the #2 spot on this today's team: Edler/Hamhuis/Bieksa/Tanev/Garrison, before getting to the random depth. If it could be done would we want to swap that years blue line with what we have today and lose Hughes?

 

[Peter Griffin]

My oldest got his brand new Boeser jersey autographed today, and we got a great photo with Petey. He signed my youngest’s jersey, and he signed mine, too!

Good start to the trip. I told them I hoped they smoke the Flames tomorrow.

That’s awesome! Great memories for life for those boys and for dad too!

 

[HairyKneel]

Horvat was the only real growth we’ve seen from a younger player under Green.

I think Bo was going to be a good player by hook or by crook. He had Willie,,Travis and Bruce. It would have been neat to see if Tocchet could have made a dent. Put some anger in Bo and he could be a beast.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

I don't know why but sometimes i focus so much on our forward group that i take for granted how special Quinn Hughes is.

I remember a co worker (who i played pretty high level hockey with) arguing with me about how tiny he was and doubting the pick (and i'm old school and love my big body guys but had already seen much of him)) We were going to the Czech USA game in Langley and i implored him to focus on how smart elusive and talented he was before casting judgement. By the end of the game he couldn't stop gushing about him and like me was convinced we had something special.

Getting to know the quality of person and now as a Captain and Norris winner you just have to tip the hat and sit back and watch a true hockey genius and ultimate competitor. As Canuck and hockey fans it's truly something special

And he's still improving.

 

[oceanchild]

I still don’t think I’ve fully accepted the transition from Benning and Co to Rutherford and Allvin.

So scarred from that time that it still seems unreal to have smart, capable and respected mgmt.

We have suffered significant trauma that likely requires years of counciling. I would take a cup instead to heal my wounds.

 

[alternate]

Aye or nay, is Hughes a generational talent?

Hard for me to say yes when I wouldn't even say he's the best dman in the game today. But him and Makar are really changing the position in such a way that it's at least an open question.

 

[MS]

Aye or nay, is Hughes a generational talent?

Hard for me to say yes when I wouldn't even say he's the best dman in the game today. But him and Makar are really changing the position in such a way that it's at least an open question.

Definitely not.

He’s a guy that changed the parameters of the game a bit in terms of what an undersized defender was capable of but there are too many guys doing similar-ish things in the last 5 years (Makar, Hughes, Josi, Karlsson, Fox) to consider any of them ‘generational’ really.

 

[HairyKneel]

Aye or nay, is Hughes a generational talent?

Hard for me to say yes when I wouldn't even say he's the best dman in the game today. But him and Makar are really changing the position in such a way that it's at least an open question.

Generational- Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr,,Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux ..... that is all

 

[LemonSauceD]

Generational- Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr,,Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux ..... that is all

Crosby.

 

[alternate]

Generational- Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr,,Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux ..... that is all

Crosby, McDavid, Lidstrom, maybe Lindros depending how you define it.

 

[MS]

Crosby, McDavid, Lidstrom, maybe Lindros depending how you define it.

Howe, Bobby Hull, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros, Hasek, McDavid would be my post-WW2 list.

Beliveau, Bourque, Crosby would be borderline.

Hull and Lindros were generational talents who didn’t necessarily have generational careers but both were freaks relative to their peers.

 

[kanucks25]

If you're one of those people that have a condensed list of just like 4, fine, but if you're expanding it and not including Ovechkin and Hasek that's wild to me.

 

[David71]

what if ottawa does bad this season would brady be on the move? a powertype forward who can hit skate and score.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Howe, Bobby Hull, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros, Hasek, McDavid would be my post-WW2 list.

Beliveau, Bourque, Crosby would be borderline.

Hull and Lindros were generational talents who didn’t necessarily have generational careers but both were freaks relative to their peers.

Lafleur Robinson and Dryden could be in that borderline group, and that is coming from someone who hated Montreal at the time. I mean that late 70's Montreal team could be arguably the best team in history.

I would likely add bossy to that list as well.

Those 4 won 21 Stanley cups between them.

Edit - Dryden won 6 Stanley cups in a 8 year career.

Edit 2 - just checked, all 4 won the Conn Smythe as well.

 

[JT Milker]

I think Crosby would be a no doubter if his brain hadn’t gotten pulverized during his prime.

 

[sting101]

Orr Gretzky Lemieux Crosby McDavid for me

 

[Lindgren]

I think Crosby would be a no doubter if his brain hadn’t gotten pulverized during his prime.

You mean Liindros? Crosby's brain seems OK.

 

[JT Milker]

You mean Liindros? Crosby's brain seems OK.

Crosby missed like 2 entire seasons in his mid 20s.

 

[Lindgren]

Crosby missed like 2 entire seasons in his mid 20s.

You're right (of course). I guess I never thought about what Crosby suffered doing to his brain what Lindros's hits did to his.

 

[MS]

Crosby missed like 2 entire seasons in his mid 20s.

Wasn't it determined later that it was more of a neck nerve problem that caused neurological issues than actual concussions/PCS?

 

[JT Milker]

Wasn't it determined later that it was more of a neck nerve problem that caused neurological issues than actual concussions/PCS?

Ya I have no idea what was really going on, but I am bitter that he missed so much time when he was starting to absolutely dominate the league.