LMAO. What "facts of reality"? What comparable transactions with players similar to Hoglander have you used as examples? Caufield's never been traded (and comparing him to Hoglander is a lot more laughable than anyone I suggested, given Caufield's scoring profile). Tolvanen? Sure. He was waived before. Great example of high value there! You've had multiple posts to show some examples, but can't!
The "facts", as they are, are really just rumours and the only teams interested based on these rumours are evidently CBJ, PIT, and WAS. Not sure if that's really high demand.
If my opinion and analysis doesn't matter (like I said, just a fan's analysis), why does yours? You've presented pretty much no logic, evidence, or reason behind your opinion. Your argument basically boils down to, "no, I know what's right". It must be worse less than mine then.
And once again, I never said he would clear waivers. You bring it up again as some kind of appeal to absurdity, despite me and pretty much no one here claiming that.
I mean, you're still getting the number wrong despite me literally doing the math for you.
Regarding the bolded, yes, I think some clubs will do that. They won't be able to sign or they'll miss out on top players. Then they'll pivot and spend/overpay on mid-tier players, given their newfound cap space.
As I've said repeatedly, I think GMs that do so are making a mistake.
Jc did you read any of the multiple posts by multiple people on why he might have value?!
The point is the narrative that he has not much value (wwaivers) should be dead based on what we now know to be accurate information.
That's it.
By whomever was making such statements, idc who made what claims, that narrative is dead. tI dont need to prove anything. To disprove a narrative that is very easy to see with all the teams scouting and having interest in Hoglander.
It is reality idk what you're arguing.
No "previous comparables" are necessary or required by me or you or anyone to prove anything because we're specifically talking about Hoglander and if he's waiver tier"not much" value or not.
Again the number doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if anyone thinks his contract is a negative, we know it's not because multiple teams are interested and atleast willing to talk top4D in return, we don't know what or who adds plusses yet.
That's it.
Hoglander has more than not much value, his contract is not a negative and he would never have cleared waivers. Those narratives are dead, Those opinions are incorrect and ppl who hold them should reevaluate their positions.
It's like anyone who was hypothetically arguing boeser value was not much or would clear waivers (again both of which happened and both can easilybe found with a search, not saying you) because struggling or contract or whatever, they were incorrect. It was an opinion we know now to be incorrect based on available information.
We don't need skilled winger comparables to boeser from before, or math, or logic or anything else. That narrative was not correct and those people should've re-evaluated their opinions because they turned out to be incorrect.
We also now know the narrative Hoglander is low value or bad contract to be incorrect, because we will soon see him traded for value. How much exactly we don't know yet, I say decent to good value, others say we have to add a 1st to get provorov.
We will also soon see which one is correct.
That's it.
Hoglander has more than not much value, his contract is not a negative and he would never have cleared waivers. Those narratives are dead, those opinions are incorrect.