Grub's Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | Trade Winds Coming Early

[bossram]

Presumably the lower body injury was something he could have played through, but knowing he was going to be out a while for his shoulder anyways they opted to have the procedure done.

Yep. Clearly he already had some kind of lower-body injury. Could have played, but needed surgery to fix.

Now that he has to be out (from the shoulder), they opted for surgery. Given the timeframe, might be a minor arthroscopic knee procedure. Or mild hernia.

But yeah, the actual situation is pretty straightforward. Don't get why people are confused.

The cynic in me feels they chose not to have surgery on the shoulder because it would have ended his season.

Hopefully I'm wrong and his shoulder isn't actually shot.

Yep. If it was something reconstructive, that's 4++ months. He'd be pretty much done.

They're gonna try to let it heal and rehab and hope for the best.

 

[VanJack]

Yep. Clearly he already had some kind of lower-body injury. Could have played, but needed surgery to fix.

Now that he has to be out (from the shoulder), they opted for surgery. Given the timeframe, might be a minor arthroscopic knee procedure. Or mild hernia.

But yeah, the actual situation is pretty straightforward. Don't get why people are confused.

If we're getting accurate news, then this is actually 'good news'. If Hronek had wrecked his shoulder again, there'd be a lot of more reason for concern.

But a 'lower body injury' whether it's an ankle, cracked bone or a knee sprain is something hockey players have to deal with all the time.......particularly d-men who are forced to block some big-time shots.

 

[bossram]

Was going to respond but this is too tedious. Tapping out

Yes. Because you've shown repeatedly that you're wrong.

Just having Demko back means we should be getting elite goaltending every game between him and Lankinen, that makes a huge difference. And they can keep each other fresh so we don't have to worry about them wearing down.

I'm wondering if the Soucy-Myers pairing was actually good last season, or did Demko just cover up a lot of their mistakes? It is hard to understand why Soucy's play has dropped off so much. Maybe our D core last season wasn't that great, but a Vezina-ish season from Demko makes it look good?

Soucy-Myers' underlying numbers last season were drastically stronger. They're just legitimately playing much worse this season.

For Myers, it's more of a "return-to-form" IMO. Soucy, I really don't know what's going on. He must have some kind of lower body injury because he looks like he's skating in concrete, whereas last season, by eye, he seemed to have average-ish mobility.

 

[bossram]

If we're getting accurate news, then this is actually 'good news'. If Hronek had wrecked his shoulder again, there'd be a lot of more reason for concern.

But a 'lower body injury' whether it's an ankle, cracked bone or a knee sprain is something hockey players have to deal with all the time.......particularly d-men who are forced to block some big-time shots.

I mean, the shoulder could be wrecked. They're just opting against surgery because it would rule him out for the season. And hoping rest + rehab will be enough.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Calm before the storm

 

[F A N]

I'm wondering if the Soucy-Myers pairing was actually good last season, or did Demko just cover up a lot of their mistakes? It is hard to understand why Soucy's play has dropped off so much. Maybe our D core last season wasn't that great, but a Vezina-ish season from Demko makes it look good?

Last season we had Hughes and Hronek handling the toughest matchup all season. After that we typically have one of Myers, Soucy, Cole, Zadorov anchoring another pair and helping share the defensive load. We don't have the same quality on the 3rd pair this season while forcing Soucy and an older Myers to hande 2nd pairing minutes.

 

[arttk]

Yes. Because you've shown repeatedly that you're wrong.

No it’s tedious because you over index on wanting to be right. You didn’t even read what I wrote.

 

[ziploc]

Calm before the storm

 

[lawrence]

kinda sad I like Hoglander.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I mean, the shoulder could be wrecked. They're just opting against surgery because it would rule him out for the season. And hoping rest + rehab will be enough.

Is there confirmation that the it's the same shoulder he's had issues with already?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

kinda sad I like Hoglander.

If Pens want Hoglander, mgmt should ask for Pickering.

 

[kanucks25]

If Pens want Hoglander, mgmt should ask for Pickering.

And why would the Pens consider that lol

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

And why would the Pens consider that lol

Never said they should. All I said is mgmt should ask.

Also it’s Dubas.

 

[kanucks25]

Never said they should. All I said is mgmt should ask.

Also it’s Dubas.

Ah I see

In that case we should ask them for Crosby with them also paying for 50% retention through each of the 30 other teams before he gets to us.

 

[arttk]

Ah I see

In that case we should ask them for Crosby with them also paying for 50% retention through each of the 30 other teams before he gets to us.

We should lead with that

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

It’s not like Pickering is an untouchable prospect, he’s on EP 2 level, maybe a touch higher
Hoglander straight up not gonna get it done but the add wouldn’t be much

 

[kanucks25]

It’s not like Pickering is an untouchable prospect, he’s on EP 2 level, maybe a touch higher
Hoglander straight up not gonna get it done but the add wouldn’t be much

Just don't see why a rebuilding team would make that kind of swap.

 

[Vector]

Just don't see why a rebuilding team would make that kind of swap.

Sometimes GMs be wildin’.

 

[arttk]

Just don't see why a rebuilding team would make that kind of swap.

Because they are not rebuilding, well at least that’s what Dubas tells himself.

 

[VanJack]

It’s not like Pickering is an untouchable prospect, he’s on EP 2 level, maybe a touch higher
Hoglander straight up not gonna get it done but the add wouldn’t be much

I get the fans interest in guys like Jiricek and Pickering as 'prospects'......but neither guy does anything much for this Canuck blueline right now.

I suspect Allvin and the Canucks are being besieged with calls from teams trying to dump bad contracts for picks\prospects. But unless some teams start falling off a cliff in the standings, I can't see much happening.

 

[wonton15]

Buffalo is in shambles. Dahlin for Hoglander, Willander, Soucy, 1st, Woo, Klimovich, Silovs, Nielsen, 4th

 

[VanJack]

Buffalo is in shambles. Dahlin for Hoglander, Willander, Soucy, 1st, Woo, Klimovich, Silovs, Nielsen, 4th

There are a lot of teams out there that are in shambles right now. Carolina can't get a save, and dropped another one on home ice to the Kraken of all teams.

The Rangers have lost six of seven--and allegedly half the teams is on the block. And the Islanders can't beat anybody. And as you mention, Buffalo has dropped three straight, and simply isn't getting nearly enough from the roster they've assembled.

Allvin just has to bide his time......if the losing continues, an NHL GM is bound to start getting desperate.

 

[Rowlet]

I did a deep dive into the thing Tocchet loves most after huge defenseman, right shot centers.

There's nobody remotely good enough who's playing on a team that will miss the playoffs, with the exception of Claude Giroux. I think the team is going to take a serious look at acquiring him, after figuring out the defence.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Is there confirmation that the it's the same shoulder he's had issues with already?

would that be worse or better?

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I did a deep dive into the thing Tocchet loves most after huge defenseman, right shot centers.

There's nobody remotely good enough who's playing on a team that will miss the playoffs, with the exception of Claude Giroux. I think the team is going to take a serious look at acquiring him, after figuring out the defence.

Michael McCarron, Shane Pinto.