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[ziploc]

Hronek's shoulder is in his lower body, confirmed.

 

[wonton15]

He went in for a check up and came out with snow tires and a DIY kit to fix the flat tire

 

[Hansen]

He went in for a check up and came out with snow tires and a DIY kit to fix the flat tire

and a new air filter

 

[ziploc]

Good thing we have Forbort, VD, Soucy, Myers, and Juulsen to pick up the slack.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Presumably the lower body injury was something he could have played through, but knowing he was going to be out a while for his shoulder anyways they opted to have the procedure done.

Exactly this.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Wonder if this means he'll be back to 100% or have a shoulder surgery in the offseason?

 

[kanucks25]

Hronek's shoulder is in his lower body, confirmed.

Elbow shoulder deep

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Maybe he donated his knee to Demko.

 

[brock hughes007]

Good thing we have Forbort, VD, Soucy, Myers, and Juulsen to pick up the slack.

Can Adam Foote still play.

 

[Quinning]

What a f***ing brutal outcome. We're going to be in tough without making a move.

You wonder why Detroit let Hronek go...apart from his cap hit, he's has injury problems before.

 

[Quinning]

I think the most likely scenario is that Miller could feel himself starting to go down the same path he did at the start of the 2022-23 season where his bad habits and attitude were visibly sinking the team. He probably got to this point after some terrible losses, being extra irritable while dealing with an injury and some other factors behind the scenes, whether personal or team related. Tocchet benching him was the final straw and either Miller or the organization suggested a break to reset.

If this is the case, the team has had success with him and they'll be back to working together to win.

I've been this guy in a team environment before. You don't even realize how toxic you're being until you get some clarity and take a step back to see things objectively. It tends to happen when winning above all else is prioritized and people are competing with each other for promotions/coveted positions. That seems to bring out the worst in worker bees.

Saying no to the 2nd one just because I never want to watch Mikheyev play in a Canucks sweater again. Plus my 2nd Cousin's butcher's brother's gardener's girlfriend's optometrist's dogwalker says that Bedard is going to sign here a free agent.

Listen, I love Miller. But if the Hawks seriously considered moving Bedard for Miller, I would drive all the way to Chicago to drop him off.

You'd be taking a step back this season to take what is likely a giant leap forward in the next 3-5 and beyond. Eventually, the kid is going to put it together.

 

[HairyKneel]

I've been this guy in a team environment before. You don't even realize how toxic you're being until you get some clarity and take a step back to see things objectively. It tends to happen when winning above all else is prioritized and people are competing with each other for promotions/coveted positions.

Probably a highly similar situation to an NHL team.

 

[JT Milker]

Bro seems to have had a body injury.

 

[beachcomber]

Probably a highly similar situation to an NHL team.

More like a high school volleyball team.

 

[VanJack]

So Hronek gone until at least the end of January. What do they do now? Is the current blueline good enough for them to at least hang around in the playoff race?

 

[Vector]

So Hronek gone until at least the end of January. What do they do now? Is the current blueline good enough for them to at least hang around in the playoff race?

If you believe that Hoglander, Desharnais/Forbort, plus Friedman's cap hit and roster spot is a useful barometer, the Canucks have about 3.3-3.8m in space to add someone. That doesn't include the actual cap space that they have which can be as high, realistically, as 1.3m (Miller & Demko back, Silovs to the AHL).

Sat Shah on Canucks Central said that the prices are unreasonable right now.

 

[HairyKneel]

More like a high school volleyball team.

Maybe even Tetherball.

 

[ChilliBilly]

I've been this guy in a team environment before. You don't even realize how toxic you're being until you get some clarity and take a step back to see things objectively. It tends to happen when winning above all else is prioritized and people are competing with each other for promotions/coveted positions. That seems to bring out the worst in worker bees.



Listen, I love Miller But if the Hawks seriously considered moving Bedard for Miller, I would drive all the way to Chicago to drop

You'd be taking a step back this season to take what is likely a giant leap forward in the next 3-5 and beyond. Eventually, the kid is going to put it together.

Miller for Bédard in what universe. miller 1st x 2 and a top prospect might do it

 

[Jerry the great]

If you believe that Hoglander, Desharnais/Forbort, plus Friedman's cap hit and roster spot is a useful barometer, the Canucks have about 3.3-3.8m in space to add someone. That doesn't include the actual cap space that they have which can be as high, realistically, as 1.3m (Miller & Demko back, Silovs to the AHL).

Sat Shah on Canucks Central said that the prices are unreasonable right now.

Nobody is going to do us any favors, but if we get Demko and Miller back, the loss of Hronek is manageable.

 

[valkynax]

Hmm well it is what it is, Hronek out for two months, we will just have to deal with it.

Why not call up Pedey and give him some ice time? The bar is Juulsen Desharnais and Myers, should not be THAT hard, no?

 

[Vector]

Nobody is going to do us any favors, but if we get Demko and Miller back, the loss of Hronek is manageable.

Exactly. I'm just trying to detail out a bit of a timeline and the cap parameters the Canucks have to deal with.

 

[arttk]

No. It's $2.39M. Which is what I said. You've pulled $2.52 out of nowhere for some reason.

Some team may still turn around and offer something decent for him. But what I'm arguing, and what you've conceded, is that the contract extension is a negative weighing his value down.

Also, the rumours of the teams calling on him are from three GMs, reportedly. Two of which I rate pretty poorly as GMs.

Vector's argument once again is the most persuasive: Some GMs are just irrational. Whatever you and VanillaCoke are trying to argue has way less evidence behind it.

Was going to respond but this is too tedious. Tapping out

 

[wonton15]

Lankinen for Rantanen
The trade is 1 for 1

 

[VanillaCoke]

Lankinen for Rantanen
The trade is 1 for 1

nty

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Nobody is going to do us any favors, but if we get Demko and Miller back, the loss of Hronek is manageable.

Just having Demko back means we should be getting elite goaltending every game between him and Lankinen, that makes a huge difference. And they can keep each other fresh so we don't have to worry about them wearing down.

I'm wondering if the Soucy-Myers pairing was actually good last season, or did Demko just cover up a lot of their mistakes? It is hard to understand why Soucy's play has dropped off so much. Maybe our D core last season wasn't that great, but a Vezina-ish season from Demko makes it look good?