GDT: Group B - May 9 - Finland (3) vs USA (2) (MOD WARNING - POSTS 26 & 275)

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Considering the USA goal was an offside, pretty even for the stats, Matthews stronger and better on the ice aside stats though.

The goal wasn't offside. The Finns entering the zone were offside. It was still an error by Laine though. No need to make excuses.
 
I don't even know what to say anymore to you, FINLAND WAS PROTECTING THE LEAD AND NO ROOKIE SAW ICE.

I answered to post that said Laine is bad defensively and benched for that reason, which was false.
If Finland was trying to score you can bet Laine would have seen ice and a lot like Matthews.

So no rookie on Finland saw ice time, which the only rookie is just Laine so why even phrase it like that?

But like I said to somebody else:

"So by your logic, if Finland scores 1-0, 2 minutes into the first period, you're going to bench Laine for the rest of the game because "it's FINLAND"?

I don't expect Laine to be on the ice in the last 2-3 minutes, but to bench in the last 6 minutes was a pretty elongated period."

Laine is a great player, I didn't expect him to get benched that early, thought they'd at least cycle his fresh energy from the 4-6 minute region, and bench him after 2-3 minutes where you can shift 2-3 lines with 40 second shifts for the rest of the game and keep them fresh.

It's crazy how worked up some Finns are getting :laugh:
 
Laine 13:21 -1

Matthews 19:09 1a +1

I think Laine got too little love for his competitive fight for the loose puck in the 3-2 goal. He was a key in getting the possession and the puck to the pressureless side for Jokinen Komarov and Barkov to get the goal.

It was one of the good things he does when not showing on the score board (And if Komarov's pass would have gotten to Laine it still would have been a goal)

Matthews was impressive even if he hadn't got an assist or a +1.
 
Already answered before. This team nor the coach would allow rookies on the ice in a tight game. Maybe why we won huh? You seem like one of those guys who doesn't understand how team Finland works in hockey tournaments. Perhaps it's a comprehension issue.

I had nothing to say regarding Laine's icetime, just noticed you losing your mind on someone for "hating on a guy that turned 18 two weeks ago" when he wasn't actually saying anything negative. Only commenting on your baffling anger toward a post that was pro-Laine :laugh:
 
I want to see if Laine can't elevate his game against Canada. He's going to have to bring his best game ever because Canada will curb stomp both of these teams.
 
Was not suprises of the out come. Meaning USA gave us a he** of a fight.

AM was better no question about it. Lots of games still to play so waiting more from Laine. Gg wp US wish you all the luck for the rest of the tournament.
 
So google translate has "pekka" as "john". :sarcasm:
Can't explain this easily but. It was an instrumental music playing at the arena and the fans started singing this songs' chorus. The song was made for Tappara when they won the Liiga (It's made with tongue on the cheek):
 
The goal wasn't offside. The Finns entering the zone were offside. Or was still an error by Laine though. No need to make excuses.

Still wouldn't have happened if the refs had called it.

So i don't know what your arguing here? :D
 
That's driving me insane, Jalone can't leave soon enough.

Frustrating in terms of fan wanting to see young phenoms play as much as possible, but Jalone's team won and that's what counts in the end.
 
Supposed to have your best players on the ice during crunch time. Matthews was on the ice. If Laine is that great he should be playing.

I disagree. Finland is much stronger up front than USA. USA NEEDED larkin and matthews out there to tie the game, they had no one else to turn to.
Finland on the other hand has quite a few more veteran players and didn't need laine out there to help protect the lead, furthermore that's also not what laine is good at.
It's the same as if washington is protecting a 1 goal lead, OV is probably not on the ice
 
well if that is good for mathews then he is nothing special

Seriously, you complain about people pumping Matthews' tires, and that he isn't anything special.

His linemates are Maroon and Vatrano. Laine's has Barkov (who is an absolute beast) on his line and Jokinen who is decent. Despite that Matthews ended up on the scoresheet and played a much better 3-zone game. He also held his own against Barkov who is one of the best two-way Centers in the world.

Against a team that mattered Laine did not rise to the occasion. Belarus and Germany are brutal and yes he did dominate them scoring 2 and getting an assist in both, just like Matthews scored 2 and got an assist against Belarus as well.

I have stayed out of the mudslinging for the most part, but when it is apparent that Laine was outplayed head-to-head, it is better to be silent than slam Matthews a guy who just outplayed your boy.
 
Supposed to have your best players on the ice during crunch time. Matthews was on the ice. If Laine is that great he should be playing.

That's not true. The best offensive players aren't necessarily your best defensive players.

Take Phil Kessel for example...
 
Laine had some bad turnovers and lazy penalties.

One bad turnover (which could be counted as a great Matthews take-away with the speed he closed up and the quickness of his stick), one borderline penalty, which in any way cannot be considered "lazy".

Laine wasn't impressive as expected, as already before the game it was considered likely that Laine wouldn't look good on a back to back, and against a harder opponent than he has ever faced.
 
Anybody else surprised how close the game was? Seems like Finland underestimated US in the first 2 periods and finally woke to what their true potential was in the last period. With some tough games coming up, they need to find that gear all 3 periods.
 
I was correcting you that USA was not offside when that goal was scored. Your post implied that they were.

It was a goal that benefitted from an offside not being called.

Doesn't really change the point, you're just nitpicking.
 
Can't explain this easily but. It was an instrumental music playing at the arena and the fans started singing this songs' chorus. The song was made for Tappara when they won the Liiga (It's made with tongue on the cheek):


So that's how it's pronounced, "peck-ah". And it means "john" apparently. Fascinating. :laugh:
 
People saying Matthews had a strong game really should pay more attention to what actually takes place on ice instead of what they would like to see.

Laine wasn't good either. Both of them had brief good moments respectively but all in all, other players in their teams lead the way.

It was actually pretty much what you might expect from kids. Very good kids, but still maturing.
 
Anybody else surprised how close the game was? Seems like Finland underestimated US in the first 2 periods and finally woke to what their true potential was in the last period. With some tough games coming up, they need to find that gear all 3 periods.

I honestly was. I thought Finland would clearly outplay them based on their on paper superior forward depth. Pretty evenly fought.
 

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