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GDT: Group B - May 9 - Finland (3) vs USA (2) (MOD WARNING - POSTS 26 & 275)

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NiL8r87 said:
It's true. If the US was up 3-2 Laine would've been out there no doubt.
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Wasn't Matthews on the ice during the dying minutes of the other US games when they had the lead? Don't know if it's a rookie thing, it's not a 18 year old thing, I think it's just 2 different players.

Laine is a dynamo though offensively, Matthews is a jack of all trades you can put in any situation.
 
Ryan Rishaug ✔ ‎@TSNRyanRishaug
Laine got an ear full from the US team as they walked past after the period. Lots of chirping.

I understand that's normal but really?
Komarov being nice to Matthews, showing class and US doing this :handclap:
 
yourbestfriend said:
Finland on the other hand has quite a few more veteran players and didn't need laine out there to help protect the lead, furthermore that's also not what laine is good at.
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I was told Laine was an excellent penalty killer. If he is that good then he should have been on the ice. Matthews is definitely the better defensive player.
 
Maplelaughs97 said:
I honestly was. I thought Finland would clearly outplay them based on their on paper superior forward depth. Pretty evenly fought.
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Finnish defense was overwhelmed by the speed and strength of the American forwards. Maroon for all his faults was unstoppable for example.
 
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according to our records scoring chances went to finland 18-17, which i find a bit surprising as I considered USA to be on the drivers seat.

1. period 8 - 8
2. period 5 - 6
3. period 5 - 3
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Total FIN 18 - 17 'Opponent' (USA)
 
Murky said:
People saying Matthews had a strong game really should pay more attention to what actually takes place on ice instead of what they would like to see.

Laine wasn't good either. Both of them had brief good moments respectively but all in all, other players in their teams lead the way.

It was actually pretty much what you might expect from kids. Very good kids, but still maturing.
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Matthews was one of the best players on Team USA. Him and Larkin lead the way. It's not saying much considering the quality of Team USA compared to Team Finland though.
 
Murky said:
People saying Matthews had a strong game really should pay more attention to what actually takes place on ice instead of what they would like to see.

Laine wasn't good either. Both of them had brief good moments respectively but all in all, other players in their teams lead the way.

It was actually pretty much what you might expect from kids. Very good kids, but still maturing.
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Irony...who led USA exactly? Matthews and Larkin were consistently the most dangerous US forwards. You should really heed your own advice.
 
Smif said:
No, seriously. Matthews didn't get a pass from his linemates in the offensive zone all game. He'd be the guy gaining the zone then he'd dish to a linemate then he never saw the puck again until it was out of the zone again. It's all Larkin and Matthews and nothing else.
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Kid has the goods. It will be interesting to see him get in the NHL and have linemates that can keep up with him.
 
Brewsky said:
Wasn't Matthews on the ice during the dying minutes of the other US games when they had the lead? Don't know if it's a rookie thing, it's not a 18 year old thing, I think it's just 2 different players.

Laine is a dynamo though offensively, Matthews is a jack of all trades you can put in any situation.
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TSN doing its best to prop up Mathews over Laine...

They truly want Toronto to get Mathews...or must be something else...dont know..

They seem to be doing a hatchet job on Laine...

"Laine Struggles" headline...
 
Murky said:
People saying Matthews had a strong game really should pay more attention to what actually takes place on ice instead of what they would like to see.

Laine wasn't good either. Both of them had brief good moments respectively but all in all, other players in their teams lead the way.

It was actually pretty much what you might expect from kids. Very good kids, but still maturing.
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Matthews was good in the first 2 periods and then the Barkov line finally woke up and took over which they should have been doing for most of the game. Matthews line does not even compare to that line, in any way you spin it. The talent level is night and day and Matthews still managed to do some things against them. What would people be saying if Laine was playing with a scrub center and winger and had to drive his line by himself because that's what Matthews has had to do the entire tournament and people don't seem to want to appreciate that. His line is nothing without him, he is the driver of that line and has played very well considering he has had to step into those shoes. Laine plays with Barkov who is quite clearly driving his line and Laine can sit back and compliment Barkov's elite 2-way play.
 
I don't know, why are so many posts here relying on such small sample sizes to extrapolate anything. We've seen many elite-type players not do well, be inconsistent or average in certain international games -- it's not what defines a player's potential. Both Matthews and Laine have great upside, why use a few games to make an unsubstantiated evaluation, one way or the other.
 
Brewsky said:
Wasn't Matthews on the ice during the dying minutes of the other US games when they had the lead? Don't know if it's a rookie thing, it's not a 18 year old thing, I think it's just 2 different players.

Laine is a dynamo though offensively, Matthews is a jack of all trades you can put in any situation.
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So was Laine in weak games, this was 3-2 game against USA, if Matthews was playing for Finns he wouldn't have seen the ice, evidence is not seeing Aho on the ice at the end of game.
 
Murky said:
People saying Matthews had a strong game really should pay more attention to what actually takes place on ice instead of what they would like to see.

Laine wasn't good either. Both of them had brief good moments respectively but all in all, other players in their teams lead the way.

It was actually pretty much what you might expect from kids. Very good kids, but still maturing.
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Still kids, but it was Matthews who held his own more so than Laine. Auston is a very smart player in all 3 zones, which allows him to hang with the veterans out there.
 
Brewsky said:
Wasn't Matthews on the ice during the dying minutes of the other US games when they had the lead? Don't know if it's a rookie thing, it's not a 18 year old thing, I think it's just 2 different players.

Laine is a dynamo though offensively, Matthews is a jack of all trades you can put in any situation.
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Like I said before that is how it is at present time. Defence is not that hard to teach.. And when Laine develops his skating he will be better defensively.
 
Petyr Baelish said:
Matthews was one of the best players on Team USA. Him and Larkin lead the way. It's not saying much considering the quality of Team USA compared to Team Finland though.
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I think it says alot. Matthews was going head to head with an elite C player already NHL seasoned in Barkov, used in all situations, solid defensively and was buzzing offensively.

For Matthews and Larkin to be the best players on a US team that had no business being in the game and only lost by 1 goal says a lot for those 2 young players.
 
Barkov is truly an elite player. He's just so damn good at everything and silky smooth for a 220lb monster that he is.
 
Runner77 said:
I don't know, why are so many posts here relying on such small sample sizes to extrapolate anything. We've seen many elite-type players not do well in certain international games -- it's not what defines a player's potential. Both Matthews and Laine have great upside, why use a few games to make an unsubstantiated evaluation, one way or the other.
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Neither had a bad game. Being on score sheet isn't only way of showing how good you play.
 
Rhyagelle said:
according to our records scoring chances went to finland 18-17, which i find a bit surprising as I considered USA to be on the drivers seat.
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Finnish broadcast said Finland won scoring chances something like 24-10.
 
skillhockey said:
Neither had a bad game. Being on score sheet isn't only way of showing how good you play.
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I wasn't referring to this games' specifics, only a general comment about the over-reliance on small sample sizes.
 
PJM said:
Because it was not just Laine. Or did you see e.g. Pulkkinen there? I didn't.
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Why do you consider Pulkkinen a rookie? He's an NHL drafted prospect that already played nearly a season's worth of games, and was drafted 6 years ago...
 
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