Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins Discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.

schuelma24

Registered User
Jul 14, 2023
970
1,651
I just think there’s a middle ground between constant doom and gloom and acting like management is infallible.
Since 2019 when Yzerman took over we only have 2 drafted players On the roster. That’s unacceptable for a rebuilding team.

In the same time frame, ignoring top 3 lottery picks, NJ has L. Hughes, Bratt, Holtz, Mercer. That’s just one example. Every single rebuilding team who is on the upswing now has done much better than us in that respect.

Oh I absolutely agree. In another thread I said they need to get more prospects up. I guess I would say that I think the management issue is more Yzerman not moving them up, and not so much poor drafting.
 

RedHawkDown

still trying to trust the yzerplan
Aug 26, 2011
4,954
5,939
Canada
Oh I absolutely agree. In another thread I said they need to get more prospects up. I guess I would say that I think the management issue is more Yzerman not moving them up, and not so much poor drafting.
Outside of berggren and Ed, nobody else deserves a call up. Kasper looks terrible, and Lombardi/Hanas/Mazur are middling. Soderblom looks bad. Johansson and Wallinder are treading water at this level. It’s not a good look for our future.
 

19 for president

Registered User
Apr 28, 2002
3,057
1,319
Outside of berggren and Ed, nobody else deserves a call up. Kasper looks terrible, and Lombardi/Hanas/Mazur are middling. Soderblom looks bad. Johansson and Wallinder are treading water at this level. It’s not a good look for our future.
Yeah I don't agree with Berggy and Ed being down. Both are NHLers and have passed the overripening phase. I can get Ed starting the 1st month in GR with the off season surgery, but he should have been up no later than the beginning of Dec as he showed he was up to pace. Berggy in GR is a waste because he is gaining nothing and all it does is kill his potential trade value. If he isn't in Yzerman's plans long term, I can understand that, but he should have been dealt in the offseason.

With that said I'm not super upset with the drafting. Kasper is coming off pretty major surgery and is new to NA. He may have a more middling NHL season. Rarely do you see successful SHL players not make it in the NHL unless there is a size issue. That is not the case with Kasper. I love what I saw from Danielson in the pre-season vs NHL opponents. I'm not going to be concerned until he looks lousy next pre-season at camp. Its been a disappointing year so far for our prospects out of ASP, but not a oh god the wheels have fallen off and we'll never be good again one either.

I would have liked to see a few more skill gambles in the draft but I feel like we'll really start to see that in this upcoming draft or two. Stevie has built out a good portion of the future team. If he can hit on a skilled forward or two then we can take off quickly. They are usually the players that take the least amount of time develop and can make an impact right away. Two way centers and dman often take more time to develop their games.
 

SantosHalper

Get off my lawn
Mar 21, 2012
2,784
3,470
somewhere around nothing
Kasper looks terrible, and Lombardi/Hanas/Mazur are middling. Soderblom looks bad. Johansson and Wallinder are treading water at this level. It’s not a good look for our future.
Kasper missed off season training, all the players who has missed off season training has said that will ruin the whole season completely. This season will be bad for Kasper but hopefully he stays and has good training next off season. Most of the kids his age are just starting their pro careers, have some patience and give him time.

Mazur also had a injury at the start of the season but his season has been disappointment so far. Last season he had 6 points in 6 games and nearly a PPG player in college, 5 goals and 2 assists in 5 games at the U20 worlds. Board battle machine at the men's worlds, this is just growing pains. Im not worried about Mazur one bit.

Wallinder has been a long term project ever since he was drafted, back in 2020 i said that earliest you could expect Wallinder fight for NHL spot is 5 years from now. This is year 4, Wallinder will be better next year. He's a slow learner but the main thing is that he is learning. Lombardi has just started his pro career and he is still built like 14-year old, again it's better to patient and give him more time.

Hanas had a good start last season but then got injured and missed rest of the season. I was expecting better than this, he is not looking good. Is the injury still a factor? Time will tell which direction he goes. Söderblom has been biggest disappointment, i was expecting him to be one of the leaders in GR. He is signed for next season, like in Hanas case next season will be more decisive than this.

I never been very high on Johansson, i don't see him being that great prospect as many others do. I think he is performing as expected, on a pace of 29 points. And +7 at the moment, it's not that bad.

Shiny new toy-syndrome must be one helluva drug or what ever is the reason why people are so impatient with prospects. It takes more than just skill to make in NHL. Wise man once said, "it's not enough anymore to just be a professional hockey player, you have to be a professional athelete". Nutrition, rest, training, mental side. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
 

norrisnick

The best...
Apr 14, 2005
31,273
16,650
I'd bring up Ed - AlJo to be our 2nd pairing. Chia-Ghost can be 3rd and whoever we can't get rid of can be #7.
 

HoweFan

Registered User
Jan 10, 2017
1,341
914
Well.. ok then he’s a bust. It’s too bad cause he had a great year last year in Sweden. And he’s so young , he could be playing in the world juniors right now. I guess that injury he got at the end of last year must have done him in. I see he got another assist last night on the empty netter. Why would they have put him out there in a critical defensive situation
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gibby and lilidk

Rzombo4 prez

Registered User
May 17, 2012
6,286
3,094
Tuomisto with another goal. Maybe he can become an option
Tuo has looked pretty solid the last four games both defensively and offensively. I think he has better puck and passing skills than Wallinder. I really like how he is moving the puck. We shall see how far his mobility takes him though.
 

HoweFan

Registered User
Jan 10, 2017
1,341
914
Tuo has looked pretty solid the last four games both defensively and offensively. I think he has better puck and passing skills than Wallinder. I really like how he is moving the puck. We shall see how far his mobility takes him though.
Good to hear. His mobility can’t be any worse than a couple of our present dmen.
Tuo has looked pretty solid the last four games both defensively and offensively. I think he has better puck and passing skills than Wallinder. I really like how he is moving the puck. We shall see how far his mobility takes him though.
Nice to hear he’s doing well. He can’t be much worse than a couple of our present guys
 

HoweFan

Registered User
Jan 10, 2017
1,341
914
Once again my reply disappeared and then reappeared after I rewrote it. My apologies. I think my phone needs a timeout
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad