Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins Discussion

[Inspiration]

I'm obviously dying for him to get back to Detroit and play for them but it's not looking good right now.

I think it's been pretty obvious for a while that the relationship between Detroit and Vrana is at a point where both sides are ready to move on without the other. If it doesn't happen prior to the trade deadline, I'd expect a separation one way or another during the offseason.

 

[lilidk]

I wonder Zadina out and Ernie is in. GR probably going to be better

 

[lilidk]

I think it's been pretty obvious for a while that the relationship between Detroit and Vrana is at a point where both sides are ready to move on without the other. If it doesn't happen prior to the trade deadline, I'd expect a separation one way or another during the offseason.

Vrana+Chiarot for future consideration

 

[Filppula]

Is this where I go to bitch about the coaches comments about Vrana?

Yikes. Not exactly building the guy up. Has played his last game as a Wing I think, sadly.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Vrana+Chiarot for future consideration

To Arizona or Chicago?

 

[izlez]

Thank you!

I had several fans tell me yesterday that he will be in Europe soon.

"Soon" is a relative term. For a 6th overall pick, returning to play in Europe before you are 28 years old is "soon". Nobody tried to imply it was going to be in the next couple of days or weeks, but you are hung up on acting like they did.

 

[DTR]

 

[Oddbob]

Sounds about right.

 

[jfrank21]

A blah Griffins special tonight. Felt like Ed had a bit of rough one, lots of flubs and giveaways offensively. Erne got PP time and everything his first game down and looked terrible of course. Things just werent clicking in general for them tonight.

 

[GoBoltz56]

They have a roster full of NHLers and still can't win. Hmm.

 

[SantosHalper]

Fire Simon. GR should be winning enviroment all the time.

Why aren't the beat writers all over this subject? I would image that is easier to get information from the Griffins organization than from the Red Wings org.

 

[Pavels Dog]

A blah Griffins special tonight. Felt like Ed had a bit of rough one, lots of flubs and giveaways offensively. Erne got PP time and everything his first game down and looked terrible of course. Things just werent clicking in general for them tonight.

Yeah I watched the game and Edvinsson was in full-on "try shit" mode, which I think is a sign that his confidence is growing so it's a good thing even if half the stuff he tried didn't work.
Also I really wish AHL had public icetime data because it feels like he's on the ice constantly.

 

[Kingpin794]

Yeah I watched the game and Edvinsson was in full-on "try shit" mode, which I think is a sign that his confidence is growing so it's a good thing even if half the stuff he tried didn't work.
Also I really wish AHL had public icetime data because it feels like he's on the ice constantly.

I wouldn’t take it as a good thing. He is incredibly talented. He’s a really big dude who can skate and has good offensive instincts at times but his one big flaw is decision making. And that’s consistently been his flaw this season. I’m worried about that. You can work on skating, you can go to the gym to get stronger, work on positioning etc but decision making isn’t something you learn at this point. If people are wanting him to be a 2 or 3 on the defensive depth chart, he has to be better about this stuff.

 

[ChadS]

Tyutyayev has been really productive in Toledo, 2 goals last night and 1.5 pts/game for the season. I guess he'll be down there for the rest of the season with all these NHL guys suddenly in GR.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I wouldn’t take it as a good thing. He is incredibly talented. He’s a really big dude who can skate and has good offensive instincts at times but his one big flaw is decision making. And that’s consistently been his flaw this season. I’m worried about that. You can work on skating, you can go to the gym to get stronger, work on positioning etc but decision making isn’t something you learn at this point. If people are wanting him to be a 2 or 3 on the defensive depth chart, he has to be better about this stuff.

I guess I would disagree on how much of a flaw his decisionmaking is. He's a very intelligent player. The confidence to try things is good imo. At 19-20 we don't want a player with his tools to remove any creatitivity and to just put the puck off the glass and out all the time. We want him to turn into an elite #1, not transform him into Jonathan Ericsson.

 

[Kingpin794]

I guess I would disagree on how much of a flaw his decisionmaking is. He's a very intelligent player. The confidence to try things is good imo. At 19-20 we don't want a player with his tools to remove any creatitivity and to just put the puck off the glass and out all the time. We want him to turn into an elite #1, not transform him into Jonathan Ericsson.

I want skilled players to do their thing too. I guess what I’m getting at is I’m not getting the same elite #1 vibe from him like I got when Seider was in GR. Seider played with confidence too but he seemed to make the right plays when needed. He had the tools to go with the tool box. Edvinsson might be getting by on his physical gifts most of the time right now.

 

[jkutswings]

Why aren't the beat writers all over this subject? I would image that is easier to get information from the Griffins organization than from the Red Wings org.

Because outside of message boards like this one, 99.99% of sports fans are far too casual to care about AHL hockey. No ratings, no clicks, no articles.

 

[Killerjas]

Simon OUT!

 

[norrisnick]

Simon OUT!

Wait, for reals?

Have we manifested actual change?

 

[Killerjas]

Wait, for reals?

Have we manifested actual change?

Its a demand, we demand things in here

 

[norrisnick]

Its a demand, we demand things in here

Aw man... you got my hopes up.

 

[Filppula]

Down 4-1, lol.

Even with what is now a stacked roster.

Brattstrom sucks though.

 

[jfrank21]

There is literally no excuse for this. Half of their damn roster has been in Detroit at one point or another in the past 3 years. They should not look this pathetic on a consistent basis.

 

[norrisnick]

There is literally no excuse for this. Half of their damn roster has been in Detroit at one point or another in the past 3 years. They should not look this pathetic on a consistent basis.

Yeah, but how good was Detroit the past 3 years?

 

[jfrank21]

Yeah, but how good was Detroit the past 3 years?

I knew this would be somebody's counterpoint....the point is, these guys have played in the league, and not just in Detroit. They should be able to have more consistent efforts, they know what it takes. Crzarnik looked ok in Detroit, Vrana was good once upon a time, Hirose was good once upon a time, Erne had some competent stretches, Soderblom looked good...players of their caliber should be doing better than what theyve shown in GR, IMO.