Gorilla put down after boy falls into its habitat

[John Price]

Wrong. They could have tranquilized the animal. Not sure why death is the immediate first reaction.

The tranquilizers take too long to take effect

 

[DCDM]

The tranquilizers take too long to take effect

Do they now.

 

[John Price]

Do they now.

That's what the zoo said

 

[John Price]

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,21009733,00.html

A vigil for Harambe was held near the front entrance to the zoo on Monday afternoon. "This is an action in response of a sensless death," wrote Anthony Seta, creator of the event on Facebook. "I know how we are all angry and upset over this situation. This demonstration is in memory of Harambe. This is not a protest against the zoo."

People have been leaving flowers and notes in memory of Harambe around the gorilla statue at the entrance to Gorilla World, Maynard said.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Do they now.

Do you know how one works?

 

[John Price]

The gorilla is like 400 pounds. It wouldn't take effect for like five or ten minutes. Even if it did the gorilla would have been even more startled.

I wanted it tranquilized too I wanted it to sleep so the child could be rescued but the zoo had to make a decision quickly

 

[yubbers]

Why didn't they just lure him away with a gorilla treat then grab the kid?

 

[Guerzy]

What would these pro life, animal loving yahoos be saying if the gorilla ripped the poor child apart and killed him? nobody knew how this was going to unfold and no sane individual zoo employee should stand by idle waiting to see a potential bad situation take place. In the moments it was happening there is no damn way you could further risk the life and well-being of a child in this situation in comparison to an animal whos actions, whether they would have been good or bad (nobody knew), were completely unknown, unpredictable, yet potentially extremely dangerous. You cannot just wait, watch, and see how that plays out.

At the end of the day the bottom line in all of this for me is no child should be able to get ANYWHERE NEAR these animals, and that is 100% on the zoo. A facility such as a zoo has to expect and be prepared for a child getting away from their parent. Thousands of children pass through this zoo on a weekly basis, and whether one may like or not, there is going to be the odd child that loses his or her parents. Unfortunately things like that just happen. What should not happen is a child being able to find any way into a gorillas domain. What matters here, to me, is that a 4 year old was ABLE to do this. That should absolutely not happen, no questions asked, no matter how it happened. It should not be possible and this entire situation should have been avoidable both for the life and well being of the child and the life and well being of the gorilla, who's entire life is at the hands of this zoo. They failed the gorilla, absolutely. The childs life wasn't safe or protected, and neither was the gorilla's and it's the zoo's priority to assure both are safe and an incident like this doesn't happen. While I agree the parent should have had a better eye on their child, the fact is this situation was preventable at the hands of the zoo.

When I take my children to the zoo you know what I shouldn't as a parent have to worry about? my child getting in what should be a caged/locked/secure area of a ****ing gorilla. Because even IF a child manages to escape the supervision of an adult, getting access to a gorilla or any animals space/home should be 100% impossible for any guest let alone a 4 year old child.

 

[S A W F T*]

What would these pro life, animal loving yahoos be saying if the gorilla ripped the poor child apart and killed him? nobody knew how this was going to unfold and no sane individual zoo employee should stand by idle waiting to see a potential bad situation take place. In the moments it was happening there is no damn way you could further risk the life and well-being of a child in this situation in comparison to an animal whos actions, whether they would have been good or bad (nobody knew), were completely unknown, unpredictable, yet potentially extremely dangerous. You cannot just wait, watch, and see how that plays out.

At the end of the day the bottom line in all of this for me is no child should be able to get ANYWHERE NEAR these animals, and that is 100% on the zoo. A facility such as a zoo has to expect and be prepared for a child getting away from their parent. Thousands of children pass through this zoo on a weekly basis, and whether one may like or not, there is going to be the odd child that loses his or her parents. Unfortunately things like that just happen. What should not happen is a child being able to find any way into a gorillas domain. What matters here, to me, is that a 4 year old was ABLE to do this. That should absolutely not happen, no questions asked, no matter how it happened. It should not be possible and this entire situation should have been avoidable both for the life and well being of the child and the life and well being of the gorilla, who's entire life is at the hands of this zoo. They failed the gorilla, absolutely. The childs life wasn't safe or protected, and neither was the gorilla's and it's the zoo's priority to assure both are safe and an incident like this doesn't happen. While I agree the parent should have had a better eye on their child, the fact is this situation was preventable at the hands of the zoo.

When I take my children to the zoo you know what I shouldn't as a parent have to worry about? my child getting in what should be a caged/locked/secure area of a ****ing gorilla. Because even IF a child manages to escape the supervision of an adult, getting access to a gorilla or any animals space/home should be 100% impossible for any guest let alone a 4 year old child.

Well said. This is my exact view on the situation.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Why didn't they just lure him away with a gorilla treat then grab the kid?

This is the only part of the saga that I really question. It seems there was a possibility that the gorilla could have been reasoned with in order to give up the child -- which sounds weird to say, but higher primates are quite capable of that sort of thinking.

My guess is that one of two things happened, one of which is likelier than the other:

Less likely - Someone had to make a decision on the spot whether to try and convince the gorilla to cooperate, and decided that there were too many risk factors to take that approach. Not wanting to chance the child's being hurt, they approved the use of lethal force.

More likely - Long before this happened, the zoo adopted an internal response strategy for exactly this sort of situation. At that time, they decided that they would use lethal force against any animal that had possession of a visitor, period. This prevented individual keepers from making an emotionally-charged decision to take a risk to try and save an animal.

 

[Hire Sather]

You know, I'm a pretty crazy person myself, but these yahoos.. its just mind boggling.

YOU WORRIED ABOUT A GORILLA WHEN A SMALL CHILD IS IN DANGER?

people want the mother charged with a crime

people going after the zoo after they SAVED A BOY'S LIFE.

i mean this is just unreal, it truly is just bat**** insane.

 

[Hire Sather]

Mike Francesa just had a great rant about this.

People are just absolutely insane. The fact that zoo's exist is a totally different debate. Get rid of them, I don't care. I see the animal yahoos point on Zoos. Fine. Get rid of em.

This incident still occured and the boy had to be saved. He is more important than the Gorilla.

 

[John Price]

Mike Francesa just had a great rant about this.

People are just absolutely insane. The fact that zoo's exist is a totally different debate. Get rid of them, I don't care. I see the animal yahoos point on Zoos. Fine. Get rid of em.

This incident still occured and the boy had to be saved. He is more important than the Gorilla.

Lol Zaun just going off. Need to hear this

 

[John Price]

In DC I've seen the gorillas and they are all behind the glass. Can't fall in. All live in great ape house.

Also signs saying you can't bang on glass like it's a hockey game.

 

[Hire Sather]

Should knock on windows. Play with gorilla.

 

[Hire Sather]

If you blame the mother at all here you need a checkup from the neck up.

 

[Siamese Dream]

In DC I've seen the gorillas and they are all behind the glass. Can't fall in. All live in great ape house.

Also signs saying you can't bang on glass like it's a hockey game.

You shouldn't be able to bang on the glass in hockey games either. It's infuriating when you're watching with your earphones in and some moron is banging on the glass and the microphones in the arena pick it up

 

[Dr Pepper]

You shouldn't be able to bang on the glass in hockey games either. It's infuriating when you're watching with your earphones in and some moron is banging on the glass and the microphones in the arena pick it up

You'd love Nick Moroch, then.

I just know it.

 

[Hire Sather]

Yeah put the woman in jail that'll solve everything.

I'm sure she didn't go through total hell for the 10 minutes her son was in danger of being killed.

Everyone always wants to throw someone in jail. She clearly could've done a better job, but I think she's suffered enough. Instead of being thankful that the kid is okay and a family isn't destroyed, people are worried about the Gorilla and worried about criminal charges for a mother who probably had the worst 10 minutes of her entire life.

 

[67 others]

Why didn't they just lure him away with a gorilla treat then grab the kid?

According to the reports, they were able to lure 2 of the gorilla's away, but not the one who was standing over the toddler.

 

[Kyle93]

If you blame the mother at all here you need a checkup from the neck up.

If she was actually watching her ****ing child this would have never happened. 100% of the blame is on her.

 

[Hire Sather]

If she was actually watching her ****ing child this would have never happened. 100% of the blame is on her.

Was just quoting a Francesa line. She obviously has blame, but why does she deserve to go to jail? For being an idiot? You think she wanted her child killed? Can you imagine those 10 minutes for her while her kid was in there?

 

[Siamese Dream]

Was just quoting a Francesa line. She obviously has blame, but why does she deserve to go to jail? For being an idiot? You think she wanted her child killed? Can you imagine those 10 minutes for her while her kid was in there?

Yeah, I know this is America and they would try but you can't put in prison every parent ever who stopped watching their kid for a few moments in a public place

 

[PanthersPens62]

What would these pro life, animal loving yahoos be saying if the gorilla ripped the poor child apart and killed him? nobody knew how this was going to unfold and no sane individual zoo employee should stand by idle waiting to see a potential bad situation take place. In the moments it was happening there is no damn way you could further risk the life and well-being of a child in this situation in comparison to an animal whos actions, whether they would have been good or bad (nobody knew), were completely unknown, unpredictable, yet potentially extremely dangerous. You cannot just wait, watch, and see how that plays out.

At the end of the day the bottom line in all of this for me is no child should be able to get ANYWHERE NEAR these animals, and that is 100% on the zoo. A facility such as a zoo has to expect and be prepared for a child getting away from their parent. Thousands of children pass through this zoo on a weekly basis, and whether one may like or not, there is going to be the odd child that loses his or her parents. Unfortunately things like that just happen. What should not happen is a child being able to find any way into a gorillas domain. What matters here, to me, is that a 4 year old was ABLE to do this. That should absolutely not happen, no questions asked, no matter how it happened. It should not be possible and this entire situation should have been avoidable both for the life and well being of the child and the life and well being of the gorilla, who's entire life is at the hands of this zoo. They failed the gorilla, absolutely. The childs life wasn't safe or protected, and neither was the gorilla's and it's the zoo's priority to assure both are safe and an incident like this doesn't happen. While I agree the parent should have had a better eye on their child, the fact is this situation was preventable at the hands of the zoo.

When I take my children to the zoo you know what I shouldn't as a parent have to worry about? my child getting in what should be a caged/locked/secure area of a ****ing gorilla. Because even IF a child manages to escape the supervision of an adult, getting access to a gorilla or any animals space/home should be 100% impossible for any guest let alone a 4 year old child.

Well sadi

 

[PanthersPens62]

Yeah put the woman in jail that'll solve everything.

I'm sure she didn't go through total hell for the 10 minutes her son was in danger of being killed.

Everyone always wants to throw someone in jail. She clearly could've done a better job, but I think she's suffered enough. Instead of being thankful that the kid is okay and a family isn't destroyed, people are worried about the Gorilla and worried about criminal charges for a mother who probably had the worst 10 minutes of her entire life.

This is also well sadi