Gorilla put down after boy falls into its habitat

Goonzilla

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Yeah, the parent or parents bare some blame, but aside from appearing mentally defective (none of this had anything to do with God sorry), kids can dart off like the Flash.

It's not a hanging offence like leaving a baby in a hot car and forgetting about them.

There's a few experts with probably no kids and possibly few prospects.
 

Chris Hagen*

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Mike Francesa just had a great rant about this.

People are just absolutely insane. The fact that zoo's exist is a totally different debate. Get rid of them, I don't care. I see the animal yahoos point on Zoos. Fine. Get rid of em.

This incident still occured and the boy had to be saved. He is more important than the Gorilla.
A four year-old boy from that lineage of genetics is more important than a strong adult male of one of the most endangered and amazing species on the planet? Nah.
 

Chris Hagen*

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The mother is such a bag of ****. She didn't even apologize for or in any way acknowledge her role in the killing of a gorilla.
 

Siamese Dream

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Feb 5, 2011
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A four year-old boy from that lineage of genetics is more important than a strong adult male of one of the most endangered and amazing species on the planet? Nah.

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Should sterilise that woman amirite TJ?
 

JS19

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Yeah put the woman in jail that'll solve everything.

I'm sure she didn't go through total hell for the 10 minutes her son was in danger of being killed.

Everyone always wants to throw someone in jail. She clearly could've done a better job, but I think she's suffered enough. Instead of being thankful that the kid is okay and a family isn't destroyed, people are worried about the Gorilla and worried about criminal charges for a mother who probably had the worst 10 minutes of her entire life.

I'm solely playing devil's advocate, but why is her suffering relevant? I think people are too easily conceding and saying "well kids can disappear in a split second!" I think both sides are to blame, the Zoo should have stronger barriers that prevent kids from being able to climb up. And Michelle should have kept a much tighter watch on her kids.

A four year-old boy from that lineage of genetics is more important than a strong adult male of one of the most endangered and amazing species on the planet? Nah.

This is so obviously bait but I'll leave you with this: the moment value is placed on one life over another is when we have truly failed. Absolutely no one can say who is or is not allowed to live, but this situation isn't like any other. Very pathetic that you'd let a child die simply because "M-MUH ANIMUL."

For the sake of your community, please never become a police officer/fire fighter, or enter any field that requires you to use the priority of life code.


Dustin Peener does it again. :laugh:
 

Kyle93

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lirl just saw the mothers FB post, sorry god had nothing to do with your son still being alive.
 

Chris Hagen*

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Absolutely no one can say who is or is not allowed to live, but this situation isn't like any other. Very pathetic that you'd let a child die simply because "M-MUH ANIMUL."
I wasn't choosing who should live and die, I was saying nature should play its course. I wasn't encouraging the gorilla to kill a child. Unfortunately in this situation we DID choose who should live and die, and we chose to kill an innocent majestic gorilla. Tragic.
 

Chris Hagen*

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Makes you wonder why God allowed the boy to fall into the gorilla enclosure to begin with. Not very God-like to be pitting humanity against a gorilla and forcing an animal to be killed.
 

Chris Hagen*

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What makes gorillas so amazing compared to other animals?

Speciesist.
Calling a gorilla amazing doesn't mean I'm saying it's better than other animals?

Nice trolling attempt though. Not surprised to see a mod baiting posters.
 

tarheelhockey

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If she was actually watching her ****ing child this would have never happened. 100% of the blame is on her.

From what I've read, apparently she was tending to her other child(ren) when the 4-year-old slipped through the steel wires and plunged into the underbrush that surrounded the enclosure.

It's a nightmare scenario for a parent. I'll freely admit I've lost a kid in the mall due to taking my eyes off him for a few seconds (literally). This can happen to anybody, it just usually doesn't have near-fatal consequences.
 

PromNite

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This is the only part of the saga that I really question. It seems there was a possibility that the gorilla could have been reasoned with in order to give up the child -- which sounds weird to say, but higher primates are quite capable of that sort of thinking.

My guess is that one of two things happened, one of which is likelier than the other:

Less likely - Someone had to make a decision on the spot whether to try and convince the gorilla to cooperate, and decided that there were too many risk factors to take that approach. Not wanting to chance the child's being hurt, they approved the use of lethal force.

More likely - Long before this happened, the zoo adopted an internal response strategy for exactly this sort of situation. At that time, they decided that they would use lethal force against any animal that had possession of a visitor, period. This prevented individual keepers from making an emotionally-charged decision to take a risk to try and save an animal.

I read an article in my local paper that stated that they actually tried a command to get the gorillas out of the area and the two other females complied, but Harambe did not. If this is true (and even in my opinion if it isn't), the right actions were taken.
 

ArGarBarGar

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Calling a gorilla amazing doesn't mean I'm saying it's better than other animals?

Nice trolling attempt though. Not surprised to see a mod baiting posters.

Oh, relax. Didn't think that comment was worth such disdain.
 

Shrimper

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I do think people here that quickly said they would have left the child would have had a different reaction and thought process if that had been their child in there. Easy to say what you would want to happen without being in that situation.
 

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